Do you believe that some persons are more valuable than other persons to the wor

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   Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years ago

   Do you believe that some persons are more valuable than other persons to the world as a whole?
   
   If so, please explain why it is that you deem one life more valuable than the next person's life.
   
   

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   peeplesposted 11 years ago

   Yes. I think my life and many other's lives are more valuable than every rapist, killer, pediophile, and child abuser. Fact of life is there are good people and bad people. Good people are better than bad people. It's a simple concept that is not acceptable by many because we have become so politically correct.

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks, but I disagree because no person can know what future deeds another might do.  In other words, having done something wrong in the past does not mean someone must forever be defined by that past ill action.

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      peeplesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      To hold yourself equal to a rapist, serial killer, or child abuser is a disservice to yourself. We are all equal until we aren't.

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   MrBecherposted 11 years ago

   No, and let me try to explain the hypocrisy there. She is not saying her life is more valuable, because she is not detracting the resources of someone else for her benefit. With her own personal resources, she is purchasing the services of others; the fact that they improve the safety of her life is irrelevant.
   
   In the context of gun rights, though, I think it's ridiculous that someone with armed bodyguards can say that it's okay for her to be surrounded by permitted armed men, but that other people can not in the same way become permitted and armed. No consistency.

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Outside of the context of the photo, do you think any one individual is more valuable than any random other?

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      MrBecherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, no. I don't. But I think it'd be more accurate to say that I believe life is invaluable.

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   Old Empresarioposted 11 years ago

   I've never liked that dried up old hump-of-a-hag; never liked her.

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      AWESOME!  I'm just glad I'd never heard of that idiot witch until this year!

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   Mr. Happyposted 11 years ago

   Valuable? LOL This made me think of the elevator clip in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, when the dumb chick tells Del Torro: "... maybe we can use You".
   "Ohh, use me ... I'm like the big fuckers, You know ..." and he looses it lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NCKu8kJIMM
   
   Valuable is a wrong word, in my opinion. So, no I do not believe we exist to be valuable, never mind more valuable than others or not.
   
   Thanks for reminding me about this scene - that movie is phenomenal!

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   junksellerposted 11 years ago

   Does the average person receive death threats? No. The average politician? Yes. hence, the two people are different. Not in value, but in what they do in life.This sort of name-calling is unhelpful to public discourse.

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hypocrisy invalidates discourse.

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      junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Of course it does, but your example doesn't show it. Rather it stoops to cheap (and typical) mudslinging which does nothing to address her argument and is harmful, rather than helpful, to advancing the debate.

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      No, it reveals a rather common statist hypocrisy.  Blind, are ya?

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      junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Name-calling makes you irrelevant. You will never be in the room with adults who are making the decision. Your welcome to your irrelevancy. I really don't care.

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      LOL!  You're welcome to your authoritarian nonsense, but I exist to reveal it for what it is.

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      junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      So to be clear, you think everyone should have the exact same security over their persons regardless of who they are? A celebrity, a soccer mom, a CEO, a money courier, or the President? And disagreeing with you makes one a hypocritical autocrat?

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You're an inventive feller...but you're not very good at it.

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      junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I didn't invent it. It's your argument.

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      MrBecherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      People do not hire bodyguards because they feel their lives are worth more than someone else's, but because the threat on their lives are greater.

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       Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       True, but the person in question feels you do not have the right to defend yourself.

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   fpherj48posted 11 years ago

   To simply respond to the question, LITERALLY, it's fairly and widely accepted that ALL life is precious and priceless....."sacred," if one is comfortable with that term.
   So, I can affirm that "Life, Itself" has equal value.   The human being, spirit, soul, who possesses life, has the capabilities, opportunities, resources, experiences, choices...etc....whereby they can utilize their intellect, free will & common sense....words, actions & deeds, to demonstrate HOW they VALUE, "LIFE."   Throughout the History of mankind, there have been those who clearly and consistently value all LIFE.....far too many, who do not place value, nor believe that each & every living person/creature, are "valuable."  They live with violence, hatred, greed, disregard and lack of any goodness.....thus, can and DO, kill, injure, torture, rape and utterly destroy.
   When this total LACK of value/compassion/love exists.....He who CHOOSES this LACK.....becomes himself, HE, who has destroyed his own value/worth, rendering his life no longer valuable to himself nor to any other living person/creature.
   Therefore, Wesman, MY answer to your precise question is, Yes, I believe that one person is more valuable than the "other" to the WORLD AS A WHOLE, when that "other"  has recklessly and egregiously, rejected the VALUE of the lives of his fellow man/LIFE, in essence.......and destroyed his own value in the process of doing/being evil.....the ABSENCE of Life, Value & BEING valuable.
   A continent full of men, screaming from the mountain tops, quoting, preaching, arguing, rebutting and BLEEDING, until they are totally SPENT, could not and would not, convince me otherwise...for even a moment.....Peace, my friend and love.................Effer

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      fpherj48posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for the Number ONE choice my special cutey pie!!   I really miss you!

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      Mr. Happyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Ya, I miss You too Amigo!! lol : )
      Wish all is good on your end.
      Cheers!

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   alancaster149posted 11 years ago

   Some put more in than they get out of this life, that's why there are such things as OBE's. They're in a minority and aren't usually as appreciated as they'd like to think they are. Then there are those who won't put in if they can't see anything in it for them. They're usually senators and bank managers. And there are those who won't put anything back, whatever the cost (being ostracised for the selfish c**ts that they are).
   Lastly there's you and me, who put in and wonder when they're likely to get something out but don't hang around long enough to reap the benefits. We're valuable - maybe - to those nearest and dearest, who possibly fit in with the categories mentioned above and could be in it for themselves!   
   Next!

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   CertifiedHandyposted 11 years ago

   No. Everybody is of equal value. However, the choices one makes within the social boundaries society places them in determines if their talents will be exploited or ignored. So called "success" is determined by a fixed set of criteria that the rulers in society use to maintain power. A Mother Theresa, a Gandhi or a Martin Luther King, Jr. are always more  valuable but not to those who deal in power over "others".

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I very much appreciate and like the way you think, Sir!

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      CertifiedHandyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It is an honor to connect with you my brother in the Cyberverse.

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    forbcrinposted 11 years ago

    Of course you know the answer Todd. You and I are less valuable to this society than, let's say GW... We did not kill anyone, but  were in jail, while one of the most famous killer of this century up to now is a respected citizen and he receives a pension for being a mass murderer...
    
    Embezzlers, public thieves and politicians who suffer of social diseases are elevated to the roles of heroes,  and make it to the Fortune 100 lists, while the rapist and killers, who for most part are people with real mental defects are killed, but kept alive until they expire...
    
    As if you did not know it...

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       Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Well actually those are some of the least valuable individuals to the Earth and the people that live on it, but does anyone on Earth provide LESS value than a banker?  I think not.

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       forbcrinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       The value comes into play when there is interest for a specific item. Bankers create the possibility of exchange, but there should be something to be exchanged, bankers are only one side of the equation, without the other variable they are nothing.

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       Wesman Todd Shawposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Which is why mass media is forever telling us how those people are more important than others...when the truth is...they are NOTHING.

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    sanrekulaposted 7 years ago

    A person value may vary based on the situation, community, location, occupation, deeds.
    
    For example,
    Every person has right to live the way others do.
    Every child or family member is equal in family. But, one who takes care of the family will be the important one as they rely on him/her.
    Every citizen is equal in a city. But, in events like disasters Doctors, Rescue workers are valuable.
    these are only few examples, every person is valuable to the society in one or other situation.
    
    So, every person is important and valuable if they can contribute to better society in one or other way.
    How valuable you are is, how much you contribute to the society and world around you.

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