Is it Obama's goal to have an unemployed underclass?

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  1. undermyhat profile image61
    undermyhatposted 6 years ago … vis-hanson

    Historian and essayist Victor Davis Hanson and I both think so.  It is a required aspect of American transformation into a European style Social Democrat state.  Since the Revolution Americans have been ranked among the most productive, innovative, hardest working, prosperous people in the world.  That must be changed if we are to all be "equal" and treated "fairly."  To fulfill the liberal/statist/Obamist transformatioin of America the Protestant work ethic that created the nation must be replaced with an ethic that teaches work should be an optioinal path to ownership and comfort.  Working used to be the only way to actually achieve any material comfort.  Now it is cruel to suggest that one should be required to work to be comfortable.

    It is mean to tell people to work for their daily bread.

  2. Nouveau Skeptic profile image74
    Nouveau Skepticposted 6 years ago

    No, because he needs those very people to vote for him.

    1. undermyhat profile image61
      undermyhatposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      What people?  The record number now dependent on "Food Stamps?"  Or do you mean the increasing number of people dependent on disability?  Or do you mean the growing body of people dependent on all kinds of Federal transfer payments?  Or do you mean illegal immigrants?  Or labor unions?  The quilt of multiple dependent constituencies liberal/statist/Democrats have sew together is getting larger with each Obama policy statement.

      The only sector of our economy not embraced by Obama and his ilk are the one's footing the bill.  He attacks doctors, insurance companies, Las Vegas, oil producers, oil producing states, coal producers, coal producing states, private jet operators, aircraft manufacturers, banks and the entire productive sector of the economy.  Every corporation is made up of people, every one.

      For every "fat cat," to quote the name caller in chief, there are hundreds of janitors, secretaries, mechanics, machine operators, delivery drivers, mail room clerks, etc....  When Obama's inattention to the BP-Gulf oil spill threatened to irreparably damage the whole economy of entire gulf that was not about preserving jobs.  When Obama denied permits for Louisiana to attack the problem that was not about preserving jobs.

      What he needs is a vast dependent class of reliable voters and he is busy constructing that class while destroying the economy.  If you read Victor Davis Hansen's essay it becomes apparent that is what is happening.   Barrack Obama is building his Utopia on the corpses of the Animal Spirits.

      1. Nouveau Skeptic profile image74
        Nouveau Skepticposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I mean that lower income people skew democrat.  So deliberately exploiting/abusing them would be a dumb choice. Obama is many things but I don't think "dumb" is one of them.

        1. undermyhat profile image61
          undermyhatposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          It isn't abusing the poor who vote Democrat to promise more government benefits, attack the rich or encourage dependence.  If anything it reinforces the tendency to support the "keeper" who provides the meal and the house.  It reduces people to pets.

          As for Obama being dumb, I have seen very little evidence of anything else.  He has demonstrated time and again that he is articulate when the teleprompter is working but other wise not so much.

  3. Uninvited Writer profile image81
    Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago

    I thought it was the other guys who wanted to keep people uneducated and underemployed...

    After all, weren't the tax cuts for the rich supposed to create jobs by trickling down?

    1. undermyhat profile image61
      undermyhatposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      One need only examine the difference between Parochial/Home/Private schooled children and their post high school levels of accomplishment and those students who struggle through the under performing, unionized Public schools to understand that there is a concerted effort to place the education of urban children second to accomplishing a political goal.  Government schools continue to under perform despite massive injections of Billions of taxpayer dollars every year.

      The welfare state, itself, is a means of dumbing down and rendering people dependent on hand outs.  Why is it that working people usually produce families that gain economic status year over year, while there are multiple generations of those public educated, public housed and public fed?  Would the tiger in the zoo prefer the jungle if all he ever knew was the zoo?

      The statist has reduced people to pets and it is appalling.  "Tax cuts for the rich" and "trickle down" are rather tired phrases and do not reflect an economic meaning just political spin.  What tax cuts have been exclusively for the rich?  Perhaps reading the Victor Davis Hansen essay I sited would help clarify.

      1. Uninvited Writer profile image81
        Uninvited Writerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I thought it was Reagan and his ilk that came up with the trickle down theory?

        The IQ of the Presidency has definitely improved over the past 4 years smile

        1. Reality Bytes profile image86
          Reality Bytesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Of course it has, Obama did not know the difference between shingles and shinola four years ago.  He had no choice but to become smarter, there was no other way to go.  lol
            Uh, Ugh Uhm, Ah, Eh, still workin on it though.

        2. Cagsil profile image81
          Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Really? I just don't see it.

        3. undermyhat profile image61
          undermyhatposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          "Trickle down" is a term currently used with little understanding of what the Laffer Curve describes.  It is a phrase without any real meaning outside the realm of liberal political bumper stickers.

          As for IQ, what is Obama's IQ?  What were his GPAs from the various institutions he attended? 

          The knock that GWB was an idiot is not born out by the Harvard MBA he attained.  They don't just give those away - not even to the sons of wealth and influential alumni.

          1. Uninvited Writer profile image81
            Uninvited Writerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            From Wiki:

            The term has been attributed to humorist Will Rogers, who said during the Great Depression that "money was all appropriated for the top in hopes that it would trickle down to the needy."

            1. undermyhat profile image61
              undermyhatposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Well it appears it is indeed headed to the top, if the TOP is government - after all how many divisions does Bill Gates have?


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