Romney Endorses Democratic Platform in Speech

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   Sooner28posted 10 years ago

   Toward the end of Governor Romney's convention speech, he claimed:
   
   
   "That united America will care for the poor and the sick, will honor and respect the elderly, and will give a helping hand to those in need."
   
   Food for the starving, universal health care for ALL, and guaranteed college education to those who desire to go and are intellectually able.
   
   My question is: why is Romney a Republican?

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      JaxsonRaineposted 10 years agoin reply to this

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      JaxsonRaineposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I wasn't going to bother, but oh well.
      
      1 - Do Democrats have a corner on the market of 'helping people'? That would be news to me.
      2 - You seem to criticize Romney when he says something you disagree with and when he says something you agree with.
      3 - Did he say anything about universal healthcare, or universal college education?

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         Sooner28posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Haha.  No.
         
         He said nothing about universal healthcare, or universal college education; however, his principles are perfectly in line with most liberals.  He just isn't following them for some reason!  It's quite odd really :p

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            habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, he DOES follow them. He not only talks the talk, he walks the walk. He gives of his money AND his time to help others.

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               Sooner28posted 10 years agoin reply to this

               No.  He does not follow them.  If you are a Republican in favor of gutting the social safety net, increasing defense spending, opening up every square inch of the earth to oil tycoons, giving huge tax cuts to the wealthy, and are a homophobic bigot (though he just recently became this when he decided to run for President), no, you do not follow those principles.

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                  habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  So, you're saying that Romney has NOT helped the poor, the sick, or those in need, which you quoted in your original post? I guess the IRS and all those folks Mitt helped are lying. Please tell me how many times Obama has visited the sick and counseled those in need. And Biden's charitable contributions are a joke. Dems are always generous with OTHER people's money, but when it comes to their own cash, they can be pretty stingy. Have you really read Romney's plan? I can't find where it says it does away with safety nets and social programs. You do know that the number of Americans in poverty is higher now, right?

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                     Sooner28posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     If I have 500 million dollars, and I hoard 300 million of it in offshore accounts to avoid paying taxes on it, give 5 million to my church, and support cutting my own taxes and others that are wealthy, cutting social programs, and privatizing medicare, no, he has not helped to the extent that he should.
                     
                     The government policies he supports have nothing to do with wealthy.  There are middle class voters who want to screw the poor also, at least until they lose their job, then they want unemployment insurance and food stamps...  But I digress.
                     
                     Do you understand we have this massive amount of poverty when there is a safety net AND charities.  It's nothing for you to donate money to charity if you are filthy rich thanks to your daddy's connections, and your ability to skim off the work of others.  Why does he need all that money, while people are starving to death, can't afford a college education, or are being poisoned by corporations? 
                     
                     Democrats aren't much better, but they aren't openly advocating taking steps to begin the destruction of the social safety net, which is what the "Path to Prosperity" does.  Romney has said he and Paul Ryan agree on the vast majority of the points within it.

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                        habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        You just answered my question with your "privatizing Medicare" comment.

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            JaxsonRaineposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Do Democrats have a corner on the market of 'helping people'?
            
            Do you approve or disapprove of Romney being socially moderate?

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               Sooner28posted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Democrats have a corner when it comes to government programs.  Most Republicans want SS, Medicare, Medicaid, and Pell Grants gone.  It's just not politically possible to do so right now.
               
               As for being socially moderate, what do you mean by that?

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         habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         I was thinking the same thing you said in point #2, but I think you meant for that second "disagree" to be "agree."  lol

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            JaxsonRaineposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Yes I did, lol. Thanks Habee

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               Sooner28posted 10 years agoin reply to this

               I didn't say anything cause I'm a nice guy and knew what you meant.  Typos are silly to quibble over.

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                  habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  I wasn't quibbling. I just wanted to make sure I understood the post correctly.

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            screamingposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            It must be a political thing, as the Republicans do the same to Democrats.

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      internpeteposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Romney is not a Democrat because Democrats want more food stamps, more welfare, more free healthcare, bigger government and oh, they want someone else to pay for it.
      
      This stops working when those who are paying for all these programs realize it is better to live in a different country.
      
      A united America can do all the things Romney said, but America will never be united as long as Obama is pushing a cultural war between the rich and the poor, the young and the old, man and women.

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         Sooner28posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for proving my point, for any of those who were in doubt.

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   Mighty Momposted 10 years ago

   Now hold on just a minute.
   Romney said "a united America."
   He did not say "The United States of America' (meaning government).
   One could (if so inclined) interpret the comment to mean that until America unites, those feel-good things for her citizens will not happen.
   In other words, given the extremely divisive partisanship in evidence today, it will be a cold day in hell before the  poor, sick, elderly and needy are cared for here!
   
   Cynical much, MM?
   Yep.
   

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      habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Have you been listening to Rush again, MM??

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      JaxsonRaineposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      MM is talking to herself again on HP...
      
      Don't worry MM, the nice people will be along with your jacket shortly
      
      But good point, there was quite a bit of rhetoric about united Americans/communities/churches helping each other out, and not just in Romney's speech.

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   internpeteposted 10 years ago

   Your're welcome! Happy to clear things up.

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   knolyourselfposted 10 years ago

   "Mitt Romney, it turns out, is the perfect frontman for Wall Street's greed revolution. He's not a two-bit, shifty-eyed huckster like Lloyd Blankfein. He's not a sighing, eye-rolling, arrogant jerkwad like Jamie Dimon. But Mitt believes the same things those guys believe: He's been right with them on the front lines of the financialization revolution, a decades-long campaign in which the old, simple, let's-make-stuff-and-sell-it manufacturing economy was replaced with a new, highly complex, let's-take-stuff-and-trash-it financial economy. Instead of cars and airplanes, we built swaps, CDOs and other toxic financial products. Instead of building new companies from the ground up, we took out massive bank loans and used them to acquire existing firms, liquidating every asset in sight and leaving the target companies holding the note. The new borrow-and-conquer economy was morally sanctified by an almost religious faith in the grossly euphemistic concept of "creative destruction," and amounted to a total abdication of collective responsibility by America's rich, whose new thing was making assloads of money in ever-shorter campaigns of economic conquest, sending the proceeds offshore, and shrugging as the great towns and factories their parents and grandparents built were shuttered and boarded up, crushed by a true prairie fire of debt."
   From Matt Taibbi

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