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Whole life terms, against human rights or not?

  1. Silverspeeder profile image60
    Silverspeederposted 4 years ago

    I see the European court has once again ruled that the UK is in breach of the European human rights act.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23230419

    Surely some crimes are so heinous that the perpetrator should be locked up forever for public safety?

    1. John Holden profile image59
      John Holdenposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      From the cited site -

      "The European Court of Human Rights has ruled the whole-life tariffs given to murderer Jeremy Bamber and two other killers breached their human rights.

      The judges ruled by 16 to one there had to be a review of the sentence and the possibility of a release.

      But they said this did not mean there was "any prospect of imminent release".

      1. Silverspeeder profile image60
        Silverspeederposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        If there is no prospect of release imminent or otherwise why bother with the process and the huge amount of money spent on it? There is always a possibility of release when these things are set in motion, to believe otherwise is foolish.

        1. John Holden profile image59
          John Holdenposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Don't put a price on justice.

          1. Silverspeeder profile image60
            Silverspeederposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Oh I agree with you John, many would say the death sentence would be far to expensive but I think we shouldn't put a price on justice.

            1. John Holden profile image59
              John Holdenposted 4 years agoin reply to this

              Expensive in terms of innocent lives lost?

              1. Silverspeeder profile image60
                Silverspeederposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                Not really John when you consider how many innocent lives are lost each year to murderers.
                Or are you of the Stalinist view " the death of one man is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic."

                1. John Holden profile image59
                  John Holdenposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  So you see no harm in increasing the number of innocent lives lost!!

                  1. Silverspeeder profile image60
                    Silverspeederposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                    Come on John evidence gathering is so good now that DNA tells where our ancestors come from. And science says everything they do reveals the truth. There have been mistakes in the past and there will always be mistakes but not doing something because there may be mistakes is possibly the worst reason not to do it.
                    Letting some of these individuals out who would have definitely been removed for good has led to many more innocents being killed.

                    You like statistics John so do you know how many times innocent people have been jailed compared to guilty ones?

    2. Dr Billy Kidd profile image90
      Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      That's an amazing story--a mass murder with his own website, arguing that his rights are being denied by his getting a life sentence.

      That's one thing (among others) I like about Texas. They'd have cut this guy's throat by now.

  2. MusadiqueKhan profile image60
    MusadiqueKhanposted 4 years ago

    this is ludicrous. Makes no sense.

  3. wilderness profile image92
    wildernessposted 4 years ago

    Much like capital punishment, if you view jail as a "punishment" then it makes at least some sense.  If you view it as public protection then it does not.

 
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