In The Government We Trust

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

   We don't need the second amendment, we have a government we can trust.
   We don't need neighborhood militias of volunteer civilians in case of local emergencies, (such as terrorist invasions etc.,) we have the National Guard.
   We don't need guns at all, we have the US Military.
   
   
   Yes?

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      lions44posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Sarcasm, I assume?

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/132829?page=7

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      PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      What is a "terrorist invasion"?  Why would we need a  "neighborhood militia of volunteer civilians" to thwart a "terrorist invasion"?  Our federal agencies would handle that, I would think, if there were a "terrorist invasion," whatever that is.
      
      Regarding neighborhood militias defending against our own government, do you really think that's realistic?  I mean, our government has the largest military in the world at its disposal.  Tanks, copters, attack planes.  Yeah, that guy who lives down the street from me who has PTSD and a bunch of loaded guns in his house makes me feel so safe.
      
      But, I guess I never thought about a "terrorist invasion."

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         The government has been working against us by making back room deals with Iran regarding their ability to have a nuclear weapon.
         It won't be long.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

   Originally, Obama agreed to ANYTIME inspections of military installations in Iran and now we find out that what he actually agreed to is giving them a twenty four day grace period after a mandatory inspection announcement. So, this gives them about a month to move all evidence of nuclear weapon developments.  Well good! (for them.)

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   PrettyPantherposted 9 years ago

   My goodness, are you really worried Iran is going to invade your neighborhood?  I'm starting to see why you want a gun, or is it other people you want to have the guns to protect you?
   
   I'm sorry, I'm trying to understand this great fear so many conservatives seem to have about....everything.
   
   It puzzles me greatly.

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      ~ have you heard the term:
      "head in the sand" ?
      
      People like you (will) make countries like China, Russia and Iran very happy.

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         PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         LOL, yes, I've heard of it.  Right now, if it applies to me, I am thankful, as I think it must be quite a horrible life to fear your own government, other governments, terrorist invasions (whatever that is).
         
         Stress-free livin' is quite enjoyable.  I don't worry about whether my chubby butt can run from the tanks that are about to invade my neighborhood.  Yeah, I can shoot, but it won't do me much good now, will it?  LOL

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Maybe that why the NRA takes the stance it does.
            You don't think World War 3 could happen on our soil?
            Its already started.
            Have fun in rose colored glasses.
            
            "Pentagon budget planners have lamented those budget restraints
            
            as dangerous to national security,  (I would put this in red but I don't know how.)
            
            but over the last three years Congress has not found any realistic compromise to replace or dismiss the spending caps. Lawmakers have promised to redouble their efforts to find a solution this year, but so far shown little public progress."
            
            http://www.militarytimes.com/story/mili … /23994253/

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               PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               Remember the topic at hand is "neighborhood militias" as you call them and the 2nd Amendment.  Our military can handle an invasion on our soil much better than a neighborhood militia, don't you think?  My neighbor is heavily armed, for a civilian, but I don't think he would be worth much against tanks, planes and heavy artillery.  If that were to come to pass, that is.

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                  Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  The real issue is trusting Government. Maybe they "forget" to send in the military.

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                     PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                     Maybe.  LOL

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         PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Ah, you added more to your post again.  I don't think China cares what I think.  And do you really think they are concerned about neighborhood militia?  No, they are concerned about the US military.  My heavily armed neighbor won't be much help if China invades, but those 8000 tanks will come in handy.

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            The more that think like you the better for the enemies of America.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

   Consider how Obama is dismantling the Constitution.
   Or you don't think he is.

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   Jodahposted 9 years ago

   Well, I am glad our country instigated strict gun laws and banned automatic and semi-automatic weapons years ago. 90% of the population don't feel the need to carry guns and even if we dislike our Government would never consider the need to be able to arm ourselves against them or terrorists. I'd hate to have to live in constant fear and having to arm myself because of it.

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   IslandBitesposted 9 years ago

   Ebola!!!!! Rusia!!!!  ISIS!!!!!! Inmigrants!!!!! Iran!!!!!! Ruuuuuuuuuun, Forrest, ruuuuun! LOL

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      PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yep, I've decided that the biggest difference between liberals and conservatives is FEAR.  It's hard not to laugh at some of their overreactions.
      
      My heavily armed neighbor is convinced Obama is going to declare martial law and remain in office.  SERIOUSLY?  LOL

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

   Here is a relevant thread, if any one has more to discuss regarding how much we can trust the government.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

   ~ here is what is going on in France according to a to a woman from Paris who came into my daycare classroom to pick up her child, (there is a French bilingual kindergarten classroom at this particular elementary school,) where I subbed today. She had left France to live in California where excellent education / daycare for her five year old son is free.
   
   As we chatted, I asked her about Paris. She explained that a huge divide between the rich and the poor has developed in the last four years. There are more poor than ever before, she told me.
   Through our conversation, I found out why this situation has developed: The rich are giving up. They pay very high taxes, but what they have been promised is becoming LESS and LESS.
   
   So they become poor. Why? Because the poor don't have to pay taxes ...
   
   and there is NO MOTIVATION for the poor to become less poor / rich.
   
   
   
   How's that for a government they can trust?

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

   We are battling HUMAN NATURE as Hamilton pointed out way back when:
   ( Hint: before the adoption of the Constitution.)
   
   "Among the most formidable of the obstacles which the new Constitution will have to encounter may readily be distinguished the obvious interest of a certain class of men in every State to resist all changes which may hazard a diminution of the power, emolument, and consequence of the offices they hold under the State establishments; and the perverted ambition of another class of men, who will either hope to aggrandize themselves by the confusions of their country, or will flatter themselves with fairer prospects of elevation from the subdivision of the empire into several partial confederacies than from its union under one government."  Hamilton / The Federalist papers / Paper 1.

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