Who'd accept the Trump dictator style if he truly drained the swamp?

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ahorsebackposted 6 years ago
The obvious point in this question is -Will he ? Not that he'd become a dictator ! But I wonder where liberals would really stand if the draining the swamp truly became a political reality ? Or is the hypocrisy of the leftist rhetoric about a dirty D.C. just that ? AS I believe.
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  Credence2posted 6 years agoin reply to this
  I won't tolerate authoritarianism and fascism. It is amazing how easily conservatives gravitate toward the strong man and fundamentally abhor democracy.
  
  Wasn't it Yoda who said, 'the FORCE can has a profound effect on the feeble minded'?
  
  Is this where you find your typical rightwinger, today?
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  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Force yourself upon the drones and you will a powerful darkness.
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  ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Credence , There was no one of a greater "authoritarian or fascist " belief and leadership style than Pres. Obama .
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  colorfuloneposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  That is the truth! On another note...
  
  President-elect Donald J. Trump, won 306 electoral votes, carried 9 of 13 battleground states, he won over 2,600 counties nationwide, and he won over 62 million votes in the popular vote.
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  Don Wposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Bit didn't win the popular vote. So the majority of people who voted, didn't want Trump to be president. Speaks volumes.
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  colorfuloneposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  I believe Trump will pull the plugs and drain the swamp, the swamp dwellers know it and that is why they have and continue a full assault to defeat Trump. Its that the establishment is sacred of prison bars.
  
  If, Trump isn't killed first or the election isn't stolen out from under him.
  
  "Or is the hypocrisy of the leftist rhetoric about a dirty D.C. just that?"
  
  There has been a lot revealed about the corruption and Washington Cartel, through the Wikileaks. Maybe the worst ever, things we should not even speak of...is #PizzaGate, its real. I feel physically ill even mentioning it in the forums, but people need to know about the horrors of hell in DC.
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Live to Learnposted 6 years ago
No sane person,, left right or in the middle, will accept a dictatorship style of leadership. It's a ludicrous question. The office of the president does not have the power to be one.
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  The Old Guardposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Might want to check out Lincolns actions during the Civil War.
  He suspended habeas corpus, arrested a sitting judge, shut down newspapers that disagreed with his war with the Confederacy.
  Suspended the 2nd amendment in Maryland and put in prison many of the objectors to his dictatorial actions.
  Check out Nixon's declaration of wage and price control in the 70's.
  Both sound pretty dictatorial to me. But, I'm weird when it comes to individual freedoms, I've never bought into the leftists view of "it's good for the community" If I, as an individual lose my freedoms, then we are in a dictatorial country - as we are now within the U.S.A.
  America is a fascist country - with a hint of "freedom" to keep those enslaved quiet.
  The sole purpose if government is to negate the freedom of the citizens. There's no other reason to have it in place.
  Just ask yourself this question, "When was the last time the government did anything to expand an individuals freedom?"
  The answer is "It never has".
  You cannot have over 3,000 new laws and regulations passed in one year and at the same time tell citizens that their freedom are being enhanced.
  Laws negate freedom.
  If the left fears anything, it's the loss of laws and regulations that specifically take away freedoms from the citizens.
  Trump will, it is hoped, allow citizens to be more free.
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  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  So you are in favor of Trump seizing war time powers during peace and shoving all of his demands down our throats? You think that will result in more personal freedom?
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  The Old Guardposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Obviously, you didn't read my reply.
  "Trump will, it is hoped, allow citizens to be more free"
  It's important to read what one has said before jumping to conclusions.
  The goal of electing Trump was to stop the dictatorial powers of those entrenched in government - this is true for those that make a living sucking off the teat of the taxpayers, like hillary killary and obamamama.
  The goal of the founders was never to have a "ruling class", which has become the norm in D.C..
  Trump has vowed to change that. Will he succeed?
  Looking at the demonstrations in the streets, the recount movement that has no chance of changing anything, it appears the powers that be do not want to give back freedoms that have been taken away from citizens.
  Here's what scary, and it ain't Trump:
  1) It seems citizens of the U.S. what a fascist dictatorial government
  2) Most citizens have no idea why the Electoral College was put in place - which was to stop a small number of states from having more power that the majority of states. (It has to do with states power for the limitations of the federal government - which is lost on most people - hence the demonstrations)
  3) It's scary that citizens are more than willing to give up their freedoms to the corrupt government that we have in D.C.
  Government negates freedom. There's no other reason for government to be in place. If you do not understand that the governments goal is to take away your freedoms, then there's no reason to have any conversation.
  I want freedom, which means less government.
  If you want more government, then your at best a socialist, at worse a communist/marxist - which is what we've had in the White House for the last 8 years.
  Cheers
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  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  The best solution is no Feb Government at all.
  Americans will keep finding the new president is worst than the president before.
  
  I can only imagine a world war 3 is the only, solution to change people's action towards this continuous abuse, rather than foresight.
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  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  War is the only solution? A world war, at that. Very European on you.
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  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  British empire used to be the bully of the world even Nazi Germany feared Uk.
  
  It is America empire turn at it with more American Germans than any other ethnic group in America . Old Americans Nazi are at it again being lead again by Zionist money supply like world war 1 and 2. Yet world war 3 will be their final strick three, than they are out.
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  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  
  Sometimes, you make sense. Sometimes not so much.
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  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Trace your world history as I do and get paid to do so sometimes.
  You would not be able to not connected those dots I presented. Why are whites in power of the world with only 14% of the population from whites predominate in Europe, Russia to America. Now they threaten the world with 90% of nuclear weapon power because by 2050 whites will be down to 9% of the world population.
  
  One thing I do know is that people of color and Muslims will win this last and final war. Don't worry no one world religion will ever work.
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  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Not being racist, I have no interest in checking to see if your breakdown by color is correct.
  
  Good luck in a world ruled by Muslims. I honestly don't think you'll fare too well unless you don't open your mouth. If you do that you'll probably fare ok later on down the road because you won't be able to speak, since they'd cut out your tongue.
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  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  The Muslims world is really changing faster than any group of people in the world. From traveling to most of the Muslim countries, I can debunk many of the crazy myths about Muslims. Yet personally I enjoy my freedom too much to be living in their culture. Like Christians I must limit my open and free mind and know where to not cross the line.
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  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Easy for you to say. You're a guy. As a woman, I find the culture quite disgusting.
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  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Some Muslims countries like some Christian countries I would fine some things disgusting too.
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  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  That's the point. Those are their countries. They should be able to do as they like. Just don't expect me to join in or want to be taken over by backward ideas better suited for some time prior to the dark ages.
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  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  They had advanced citization where, we were living in Caves. Muslims countries are various in laws and how much freedom and even advance in some areas that we are not.
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  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  The most I'm willing to allow a government to argue with me over is a woman's right to choose on abortion. I'm not going to bow to some ignorant rule that my head has to be covered, whether it's ok to wear pants or having my child legally ripped out of my care and given to the husband when it reaches seven. Or what I can and cannot say about Mohammed.
  
  Move to a Muslim country. Enjoy it. I'll pass and continue to consider them backward.
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  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  You just have not been to enough Muslim countries. I would stay away from Saudi Arabia even chocolate liquor is outlawed. Some Muslim countries have better abortion clinics , social care and education system than America
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  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Wooptidoodle. Still not being told to wear a head scarf, a burka or anything at all. Muslims have way too much time on their hands and spend it demonizing women.
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  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Would perfer a women in a head scarf than a smoker, yet perfer still long beautiful hair than either. In Tunisia, Turkey and Lebanon women dress any way they want , just most Muslim perfer head scarfs.
  
  Most Muslims do not want beer of liquor, I say bomb the HELL OUT OF THEM. (just kidding)
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  Aime Fposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Two of my closest (female) friends are Muslim and I think they'd disagree with this as a general statement about Muslims. One is also openly gay and still attends her mosque weekly. That said, they both grew up in Canada, which would to me imply that what you (and most of us) find to be disgraceful is attached more to culture and that the understanding/interpretation of any particular religion can change depending on which culture it is nurtured in.
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  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Grew up in Canada. That says it all. We are discussing foreign nations under sharia law. If your gay friend feels moving there would be acceptable, for him, I'll listen to what he has to day.
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  The Old Guardposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Coming from a country who's leader praises a demon known as Fidel Castro.
  As worse as Stalin or Hitler - right up there with Canada's mountians.
  Talk about hypocrites - Trudeau is one of the worst. Almost getting close to obamamama and hillary killary.
  Trumps a saint compared to those 4.
  Rock on Trump.
  Make America great again, bring in persecuted Christians vs. muslim anarchists. Let the muslims take care of the LGBT!
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  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  I did read your reply. I simply don't think 'hoping' something will turn out a particular way is reason enough to allow dictatorial style of leadership into the White House. It doesn't really matter what you think of the last eight years.
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  The Old Guardposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  What I think of the last 8 years does make a difference.
  Don't see any reason it's going to be any worse dictatorially than what obamama has been.
  You afraid of a guy who speaks his mind?
  Going to run to you safe space and pout?
  Or do you not have faith in the checks and balances of the Federal Government.
  By looking at the last 8 years, I can understand why. You've had a thieving, marxist at the helm for so long maybe you forgot what it's like not to be told what to do by your government.
  Of course. looking at the protestors hoping for another despicable demoncrap in office, well, the mass media brainwashing has worked well. You guys have bought into the socialists dreams. Myself, I'll hope for the "For each new regulation, we'll cancel out 2"
  Why not let Trump actually do something before becoming a fearing mongering little babe?
  Or do words scare you to death?
  Again, I'd be more afraid of the thieving demoncraps - and you've got plenty of proof for that conclusion.
  Hoping is a lot better than the last 8 years of a marxist bent on destroying America.
  50% of American's on some sort of government welfare is not what I would conclude as success.
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  PhoenixVposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  
  I thought liberals love dictators. I , along with obama offer liberals and fidels family my condolences.
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  The Old Guardposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Yup, cut from the same mold - obamamama and Fidel Castro. Both's dream was destroying the country that they led.
  Both have done well in realizing their dreams.
  Thank God in 2017, obammama is gone!
  Can I get an Amen for that!!
  HAHAHAHAHA
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  ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  "Ludicrous question "? And given that Queen Hilary's coronation was the alternative , you truly feel that it can't happen ? A "dictator style" of leadership is exactly what America needs right now , in order to drain the swamp that we ALL believe needs draining .
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Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago
Lucas once ask me for my services. At the time did not know who he was and was too busy with sandsculpture. He wanted Aliens creatures where I only knew of earthlings. If he asked me again, I would say, YES!!!!
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ahorsebackposted 6 years ago
The majority of the Muslims from the idle east seem to live in the eleventh or twelfth century , need justice , cut off someone's head , need political reform , cutoff someone's head , need religious solutions , cut off someone's head .

How does that fit into America's reality ?
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  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Saudi Arabia cut off a record high of 147 last year heads, greater than ISIS cuts off tbeir heads. Saudi is who you most deal with in oil so money always over rules, ethics.
  
  Think of the millions heads that roll off Muslims by US and Israel milliary by guns and bombs. Then look at US 140 times crime rate higher than the most criminal Muslims country in the world, Saudi Arabia.
  
  It is like comparing human yearly deaths by deer 1.2 million to bears killing human 500 a year. Bears will get the worst propaganda press.
  
  No matter how much US/Israel kills Muslims and their population growth. They will win the war because they got nothing to loose and brown will be the most popular colour around.
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  ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Yes , and so lets assimilate them into mainstream America , so more heads will roll right into the future .Your kids , mine and Obama's too , why leave anyone out . Go Sharia !
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  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Two great white shark had two killings last year, do you have nightmare about them . How about two billion Chinese are they out to get you too, Maybe after the thunderstorms bolt stricks first.
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  ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  No , No and No !
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  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Did you know in the American/ Indian war 1811 they beheaded 150,000 to 300,000 native. I can't imagine 10,000 Syrians Muslims are sharpening their swords right now. BBOOOO. LOL
  
  America kills more in death penalties , just Arabic prefers beheading it is scariest way to cut crime. Unless you make a death penalty crime over there, then why fear your crazy off.
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  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Why fear? A western woman was raped there and they put her in jail.
  
  Backward, backward people.
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  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  I have dated every race of women except Arab women, why are these Arab women not flocking to me. There is alot more crime in America with domestic homicide that are greater in numbers. Of the two extreme I prefer Latino women more often, they will actually stay for breakfast, how romantic.
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  ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe you are too hard a person Castle , if the Arab women don't like you !
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  Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Many Christians girlfriend can't save me neither. It could be worst to pray 5 times a day and get a monkey up my butt in hell if I fail. Can 51 virgins be worst going the other way?
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  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  With the first part you sound like a few Muslim women I've conversed with. The second part sounds like you.
  
  Either way. Not in the least interested in taking part in a Muslim society.
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Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago
Yes, shy at first ,you would be surprised on how open minded some Muslims can be, even in their country.
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  Will Apseposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  One of my favorite, local bar/restaurants is run by Muslims. The guys friends come round in white robes and they sit, drink coffee and smoke cigarettes in a quiet and dignified fashion while the Europeans get drunk, loud and silly.
  
  Most Muslims here are the kind of gentle, good-natured people that make me feel guilty.
  
  I ain't good-natured, lol.
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  Will Apseposted 6 years agoin reply to this
  Just to give that above comment some context, I should point out the Buddhist population in Thailand are just as good-natured. The sweetness of the rural people here is a wonderful antidote to any kind of misanthropic cynicism.
  
  I was also probably a little hard on myself. I am not especially ill-natured, just a typical, driven westerner.
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