FIREARMS: Next Generation Identification

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   colorfuloneposted 8 years ago

   On December 5th, Hawaii is about to put into effect a new law:  SB2954 ... and most people don't know about it, not even the police who enforce the laws.  Joe Biggs from Infowars actually called the Honolulu police department and spoke with five different officers and asked them what they knew about SB2954,  none of them even heard of the law whatsoever they said.
   
   RELATING TO FIREARMS.
   Report Title:    Criminal History Record Checks; Police; Permits to Acquire Firearms; Hawaii Criminal Justice Data Center; Database Management
   
   Description:    Authorizes county police departments to enroll firearms applicants and individuals who are registering their firearms into a criminal record monitoring service used to alert police when an owner of a firearm is arrested for a criminal offense anywhere in the country. Authorizes the Hawaii Criminal Justice Data Center to access firearm registration data. (SB2954 HD1)
   *  http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_i … ;year=2016
   
   Rap Back
   The Rap Back service allows authorized agencies to receive notification of activity on individuals who hold positions of trust (e.g. school teachers, daycare workers) or who are under criminal justice supervision or investigation, thus eliminating the need for repeated background checks on a person from the same applicant agency. Prior to the deployment of Rap Back, the national criminal history background check system provided a one-time snapshot view of an individual’s criminal history status. With Rap Back, authorized agencies can receive on-going status notifications of any criminal history reported to the FBI after the initial processing and retention of criminal or civil transactions. By using fingerprint identification to identify persons arrested and prosecuted for crimes, Rap Back provides a nationwide notice to both criminal justice and noncriminal justice authorities regarding subsequent actions.
   *  https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/finge … etrics/ngi
   
   Because under that legislation, the names of Hawaii gun owners—and anyone who ever visits Hawaii with a gun—would be submitted for inclusion in a federal government database called “Rap Back,” which flags the names of certain people for special federal scrutiny and reporting.
   
   “Rap Back” is part of what the FBI calls its “Next Generation Identification (NGI)” program, which it says is the “world’s largest and most efficient electronic repository of biometric and criminal history information.”
   *  https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/arti … on-scheme/
   
   Infowars:  http://www.infowars.com/videos/
   
   If, you have people in Hawaii, reach out to them and ask them if they know about this new law, so they can do something about stopping it from going through... If you feel so led to do.

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      Jackie Lynnleyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Some of it sounds OK but then that is how they fool people and they are not after the criminals as much as law abiding citizens who have the right to protect themselves and very unfair to be nosing into their business when they have no offense against them but merely providing themselves protection they are entitled to under our laws.
      Hope someone brings this to Trump's attention. So much he will have to do to ever get us out of the communist mess we are in and about 50% of Americans are unaware of or just do not care being ignorant of the consequences.

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         colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Right.  Never a dull moment in the USA. 
         
         'They' (whoever the elites are) impose the most gun regulations where there are the highest crime rates through corrupt politicians and lawyers.  Who knows what they will add-on since they have been moving this new law through the backdoors to keep it out of the public eye.  People should not be 'surprised' when forced to pay a $40 fee when they buy anything, including a gun and then get put in the FBI database  watch-list.   
         
         May the good citizens in Hawaii wake up and elect good people to run their state for them the way they want it run.  I'm a strong supporter of local government and keeping the feds out of their business and private lives.

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            Jackie Lynnleyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            That is exactly right, the way it was suppose to have been.

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         Don Wposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         ". . . they are not after the criminals as much as law abiding citizens who have the right to protect themselves . . ."
         
         Care to support that statement with evidence?

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   ahorsebackposted 8 years ago

   According to constitutional law the Federal government isn't supposed to keep lists of legal gun owners , their guns or  locations of either . For the protections allowed in the second amendment for one .   There have been recent accusations of FBI  and other  enforcement agencies  , keeping , trading , maintaining lists  AGAINST federal Law .....such gun owner lists !
   
   Only felony criminals ,certain  gun dealers and  licensed class I gun owners ,are supposed to be listed .
   Pres. Obama is breaking our constitutional rights again apparently !

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      colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It sure does seem that the Obama Adm. is trying to create a federal gun registration with Rap Back that would violate the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act that Reagan signed into law.

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      Jackie Lynnleyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Another right...among many. He is working as fast as he can to do all the bad he can to us. Anyone who cannot see that is totally not wanting to and in denial!

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         colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         It passed, which makes Hawaii the first state to add firearm applicants into the FBI's Rap Back database.  Hawaiians will have to pay a $42 fee if they buy a gun. 
         
         ...award-winning economist John Lott has pointed out, it’s not only an unneeded diversion of resources in a cash-strapped public safety economy: It’s also useless at solving crime.
         
         Gun registration has long been a big, expensive dud at stopping or solving crimes—and Canada’s experience is even more proof. The country’s billion-dollar long gun registry, which was supposedly abolished in 2012, didn’t work. As Lott noted, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Chiefs of Police didn’t provide even one instance where tracing guns was anything more than of peripheral interest in solving any crime. Moreover, there’s no proof that Canada’s handgun registry, which has been maintained since 1934, has helped solve even one murder.
         
         In Washington, D.C., the police department recently revealed, in deposition, that it couldn’t “recall any specific instance where registration records were used to determine who committed a crime.”
         *  https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/arti … on-scheme/
         
         Another Rip Off in my opinion.

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            wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            No, it is not a rip off, or at least that isn't the intention.
            
            It IS a bald faced attempt at knowing who has a gun, to be reserved for future use when guns are confiscated as was done in Australia.

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               colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Wilderness, I'm sure you are 99% right if not 100%, about the intent.  Its one of those double edged swords being used against the people. 
               
               If a person travels with a gun to Hawaii, it has to be register with the State, and they get put on Rap Back. Its better to just go and enjoy their beautiful state unarmed.

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                  wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  In spite of all the disclaimers, there is little doubt in my mind that the liberal faction will ultimately succeed in disarming the American public.  I hope it is not in my lifetime, but it will happen - Big Government cannot allow an armed populace.  Not particularly because it might revolt, but the mindset that comes with it must be stamped out.  People must rely on Big Government to take care of them, not have any responsibility to do it themselves.

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                     colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     Maybe not in our lifetime.  I believe it would have happened sooner if it wasn't for the Trump phenomena. Things should be good for the next fifty years with Constitutional Supreme Court Justices ruling. I'm believing, keeping the faith, so I'm being positive. 
                     
                     Added:  I believe more people will be getting on their knees.

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