Is Mr. Kristof of the NYT combining Church and State in this article..

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   jackclee lmposted 7 years ago

   This article appeared in the NYT 3/16/2017 opinion page.
   
   "and-jesus-said-unto-paul-of-ryan"...
   
   He tried to make the case that Paul Ryan is un-Christian in trying to repeal Obamacare...using quotes from the Christian Bible and Jesus...
   Does he have a point?

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      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Here is link to full article -
      https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/16/opin … -ryan.html

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      Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, he the author makes the comparison of Ryan with the Pharisees of the First century, who honor the faith with words only. The article was a great satire of the hypocrisy of the Christian Right in general and Paul Ryan in particular.
      
      As it is written that the poor will always be among us and no boot strapping will change that.

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         jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         So you seem to know your scriptures. However, have you considered this. All the quotes he used were for individuals to help the poor including the Good Samaritan... no where in Bible did they say Government is responsible for healthcare or anything else...

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            Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            No, we the people are supposed to consider the poor, since obviously there was no point of reference for the scriptures to use relative to our time today. What do the 'people' constitute collectively?
            
            I know just enough to be annoying to right wing bible thumpers that like to distort the meaning of scriptural texts for political purposes. Believe me, there are plenty out there.

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               jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               The only person distorting scripture is the author of the article who by the way is an atheist.
               He has no knowledge of what the scripture was referring to...
               He is one for keeping God and religion out of the public square but when it suits him to use it out of context...
               The bible teaches us to be good citizens and take care of our neighbors... it does not say we should let government tax us and redistribute wealth...
               There are plenty of private charities doing great work... Catholic Charities for one and the Red Cross for another.
               If someone wants to donate willingly to help others, that is fine. He is doing what God prescribe all of us to do.

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                  PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  The Times got religion and the government is a cure. Thats more miracle than in the Bible.

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                  Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Catholic charities and the Red Cross do not have the resources to help all of the people in need in America.
                  
                  The problem with the government having programs is that it gives the average person and their community the reason not to care, and help. It is easy to say 'oh, there is a government program for that'.  I don't know what the answer is but I think the more we rely on the government to do what we, as individuals, should already be doing, the further our society falls into ruin.

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                     jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     Also, in most cases, the government programs are inefficient and does not fulfill their responsibility. Private charities usually do better in these circumstance because their motives are different. Just look at the food stamp program... a disaster and full of fraud.

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      mike102771posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      No, he has an opinion. Opinions are not facts (despite what the Internet says).

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   PhoenixVposted 7 years ago

   In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by the government. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead.

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      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Haha... good one.

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