Interesting that the hard driven rhetoric constantly promoting violence of the left is finally perpetrated and they immediately go crickets on the HP. forums , probably just a little guilt complex , Do you think you've gone too far THIS time ? Probably just the nice weather this weekend .
What is it you want us to say, Ahorseback?
That we are sorry that we spoke ill of the GOP and its demons? I am satisfied that the Dems are just as concerned about the problem associated with the shooting as the Republicans. But that does not mean that all of our contentious issues disappear because of it. The protests and demonstrations will not stop because of it. If that is how you wanted the Dems to respond, you are in for a big disappointment. We are not letting off from Trump, we just don't advocate violence as a part of process. The struggle and fight is still on.
Wasn"t it you who said that you would gladly give up freedom of the press if it means that Trump could carry out his agenda unchallenged. I think that is pretty telling on your part.
Trumps agenda however , doesn't incite violence ! That's your thing !
But it does incite non violent resistance and that is MY THING.
Hmmm wasn't it Trump who said he could shoot somebody on the street and get away with it? How about inciting violence during rallies promising to pay for defense lawyers for any supporter who is charged wirh assault?
When did credence commit violence?
I don't recall ever seeing him or any progressive condone violence on these forums. You, on the other hand, gave kudos to a Hubber who said she Would hesitate to pour water on Hillary if she lay burning in a ditch, or something to that effect.
"Wasn"t it you who said that you would gladly give up freedom of the press if it means that Trump could carry out his agenda unchallenged. I think that is pretty telling on your part."
Yes, he said that.
Yes, I know that he did, it is just that the very concept of democracy is inconvenient for those of the conservative mindset.
However , Just what democracy is there in your Socialism ?
Ahorseback, how about cracking a book or two sometime?
Democracy is a political system while Socialism is an economic one. They both can and do coexist in Scandinavia for example
If you truly studied Scandinavian countries current economics , You would see nations moving away from socialism's to capitalist economies , They've had far higher tax rates , higher household family debts , lower education quality standard results , singular GDP based economies , etc..........No fair comparisons whatsoever .
When you can put dozens or even hundreds of comparative and yes , Scandinavian countries like Bernie Sanders likes to compare his of dream -world -America , actually into mainland America , it's populace , its economy , Your baseless comparisons dwindle to dream-scape comparisons . What you don't see there is any economic success' of past Socialist countries .
But go ahead show us one. By the way , I have two or three books cracked at most times , can you read? See , I can be sarcastic too .
The point is that these societies are far more socialist based than the U.S. and they are also democratic. Even if some move toward a more capitalist model, it will NEVER be like it is here.
I have been reading that in those societies, social cohesion, relative peace are a stellar example for the world. So, it does work.
It certainly would not hurt America to look more closely and evaluate. We know the rightwingers will never abide with a society anywhere near like those in Scandinavia. Sanders knows this as well, that this is basically a capitalist economy. But, I want the capitalists to know that there are limits and it is not a 'free for all' anything goes in their interests as they would like. If Bernie and his policies serve as this reminder, that's fantastic.
Fortunately that's all Bernie symbolizes , that's all in fact that he ever has done . And all the more reason to your other points , that we should exit NATO as the primary source of money , blood and treasure , and as well Paris Accord like treaties , all other nations want of America is that in times of need we are there . We could have a better rounded system of entitlements if we did exit as a world leader , *which by the way is a Trump agenda .
*No mention there ever from liberals.
we exit as world leader, but with his absurd outlays for defense are we to become a international pariah in our own right?
World defense TODAY , one cruise missle , a drone strike , one U.S. Navy battleship , and an incredible intelligence overlay can be as all powerful as our entire military could have been seventy years ago. No longer is the entire U.S. military required for anything short of WWIII . Yes , we could entirely defend NATO and still be a world class superpower.
I would change that to "inconvenient for ahorseback," He doesn't speak for all conservatives. I hate it when he assumes "the left" speaks as one voice, and I'm sure rational conservatives would prefer he and his ilk would just shut up, as long as they also keep voting GOP.
I wouldn’t worry about the silence (unless we are talking Doctor Who then worry). That silence will be filled by the crazy idiotic loonies pushing their conspiracy theories. (And the best thing about the silence is once you are not looking at them you forget all about them. Oh, what that’s Doctor Who again) One person already filled it onto the pile of fake news like 9/11. When I read that I almost gave up on HP (almost).
I imagine all those people that think guns have no place in a civilized society have had their opinions reinforced, one more time.
No doubt the unthinking will go and buy more guns under the delusion it will make them safer, lol.
Actually , What I can't wait for is a thousand more liberal judges to release ten thousand more repeat violent criminals- -times ten-- into the unsuspectingly peaceful liberal cities of Chicago , NYC , Atlanta , Baltimore , Detroit , New Orleans , Miami and every other socialist- democrat voting enclave . I just love watching these cities deteriorate further and further in to crime riddled slums , drug use capitals , MS-13 recruitment centered drug ,sex and child trafficing centers of economic livelihood .
Hows that working out for you ?
But you keeo your mind focused on a chunk of iron , aluminum and plastic , That will save your grandchildren and theirs won't it ?
You sound like the devil, utterly evil without any humanity.
All the evil and devilishness is Democratic to claim ownership of . You have always promised everything to minorities , Hispanics , Blacks , Natives , inner city dwellers , the education systems , until you bought and purchased the news media and pissed off the natives , you've delivered nothing but more costs to taxpayers who , to date , have only grumbled ........Trump is however the answer to ideological democratic cremation of our constitution , to our cities and to due process of government occurring in America .
You lost , get over it .
You are welcome. BTW, this isn't a scientific polls so it isn't a fake poll like MSM ran when the brainwashed thought Hillary destined to win the election. They still haven't gotten over the cognitive dissidence and come to acceptance that Trump is the President of the United States. ... Oh wait, we cannot be UNITED until the Democrats come back from Marxism and become Americans again!
One Nation Under God!
I know it makes you feel better to believe that any criticism of your God Thor and his Russian sweetheart is merely sour grapes. It also conveniently relieves you of any burden to defend him since all criticisms are declared illegitimate. It doesn't matter how often the progressives on this forum acknowledge your dear leader is our duly elected president, you will ignore them to make it easy on yourself.
And, psst, your God is not everyone's God, no matter how much you wish it to be so.
I saw someone write there are 5 stages of liberal grief.
3 more crying
5 shots fired
I thought us liberals don't own guns. Y'all are always bragging that we'll be hiding behind the macho conservative gun owners who will defend the whole country from whatever evil befalls us while liberals will be peeing our pants and begging you to protect us.
Yer gittin' yer stereotypes mixed up.
And a few days later , The Left is once again decrying this congressman's conservative voting record on line , There ARE NO limits to liberal immorality .
I just read that authorities are considering whether liberal rioting may be a danger to society ..........?
Jeees '........ You Think?
I think we need to figure out where lefties and or liberals are being radicalized. I think we can rule out barber shops and beauty salons..
How about in Math class , English Lit. , Science 101 , Home room ............In the day cares , on campuses everywhere , in the pews of the local congregation , I saw a fairly radical change in my high school in the late sixties early seventies , out with the old teachers---- in with the newer , younger cheaper , more radical to a tee -
I'll say one thing I was taught both the old school and the new then , in spite of that which I chose to follow , at least I could chose ---------Does anyone even pretend to think you as a child - teen college kid , can chose today ? No! Unless you are home schooled ,perhaps .
Ooooohhh.....decrying his conservative voting record online....the cruelty! The savagery! The... GA$P....immorality!
Hell of a way to justify the shooting of a member of the Senate ? " I don't like the way he votes " ?
He's one of those nasty old conservatives ?
You are such a twister. You must be very knotty and tangled.
The shooter was arrested for various counts of domestic abuse and violent behavior.
Copy and paste from the Daily Beast:
In 2006, he was arrested for domestic battery and discharge of a firearm after he stormed into a neighbor's home where his teenage foster daughter was visiting with a friend. In a skirmish, he punched his foster daughter's then 19-year-old friend Aimee Moreland “in the face with a closed fist,” according to a police report reviewed by The Daily Beast. When Moreland's boyfriend walked outside of the residence where Moreland and Hodgkinson's foster daughter were, he allegedly aimed a shotgun at the boyfriend and later fired one round. The Hodgkinsons later lost custody of that foster daughter.
There are an awful lot of people like this in the world and you want them armed?
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