The big list of Trump accomplishments in the first year

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   jackclee lmposted 5 years ago

   There are 170 and counting...
   Most consequential president since Ronald Reagan.

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      jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Here is the list -
      http://www.wnd.com/2017/11/4621979/

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         Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         This list was compiled and supplied by Thank Trump and associates. Gee what does one expect but lies from such a source.

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            wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Which ones were lies?

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               Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               The lie was Trump claiming he'd accomplished more than any modern president in his first year, Dan. Not what he actually accomplished at all.

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                  wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Nothing in that link came from Trump and nothing in the OP did, either.  So you're...what?  Grabbing a different topic to discuss while seeming to leave it where it is?
                  
                  Or can you point to anything in either the link or the OP that is a quote from Trump?

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      Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Jack, we can agree that Trump is doing an excellent job.  Liberals won't be able to see it.  They are emotional based thinkers, which means if Trump's accomplishments make they feel bad...it's bad. They struggle to comprehend facts, truth and reality.  I can't help but truly enjoy how he and Nikki Haley put the UN in their place...almost as much as pulling out of the France climate agreement...which is almost as good as moving the American embassy to Jerusalem...Trump has done so many good things it's difficult to choose which ones I like the best.

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         jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         How about bringing “Merry Christmas” back into our lexicon. I am not a fan of saying happy holidays. Trump is not one to shy away from controversy. The PC police is quaking in their boots. Support of our friend Israel is a bold statement to the world.

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            Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Trump lied again when he bragged on his accomplishments being the most of any president. Surprise, surprise!    His first year deeds are the least of any president since Eisenhower.

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               promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               He did give himself and his fellow billionaires a huge tax cut. That's a great accomplishment.

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               jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               There is no lying here by the President. This list was compiled by others not Trump. You make statements that are totally unfounded. By what measure are you saying Trump had the least accomplishments since Eisenhower?
               You may not agree with some of his policies and changes but they are accomplishments no less.
               Randy, you are loosing it my man. At what point will you admit that you might just be wrong about Trump and that you were lied to by your trusted news source.
               The latest tax reform is just one indicator.
               I want you to post here how much tax reduction you personally got next year, or if you think your taxes will increase, the amount extra you paid over last year.
               Will you do that for me?
               I promise to do the same...
               We will see who is lying here, Trump or the Democrats?

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            Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            An interesting read on this topic: https://www.snopes.com/2017/12/27/trump … christmas/
            
            This has always seemed like an exceptionally silly thing to get upset and/or excited about to me.

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               jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               The war on Christmas has been going on for sometimes by the progressive secularists.
               It created this PC environment where people just don’t want to alienate someone by saying “merry christmas”... it may not have started with Obama but he certainly falled for this ploy. The ACLU was the primary driver behinds this and uses the courts to sue local communities to comply.
               This war was faught and won years ago by Bill O’Reilly.
               Many businesses that stop using merry Christmas greetings saw their sales dropped such that they reversed course. Trump brought this back as most Americans want it back. It is not to force our religion on anyone but to celebrate the reason for this season.
               Why have a tree if you want to call it a holiday tree? What holiday?

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                  PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Really?  Seriously?
                  
                  There has never been a time in this country when you could not say "Merry Christmas."  This "War on Christmas" was made up to create outrage among the easily outraged conservative base.
                  
                  Gawd.  My patience for this stuff is razor thin today.

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                     jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     I am sorry but you are wrong on this. I have been following this from the beginning.
                     There are lawsuits you can search brought by the ACLU against many local school districts...
                     They were at time forced to remove Christmas from their school calendar. This is well documented.
                     There are large retail chains that specifically told their employees to not say merry christmas greetings.
                     There are lawsuits against christmas shows put on by local schools... or local naitivity scenes removed... the list is endless. For you to deny this active war on Christmas, shows more about your own naiveté than reality.

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                        jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        Here is my article on HubPages -
                        
                        “The-War-On-Christmas-Debate”

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                  Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  I suppose I don’t understand the problem with saying “happy holidays” to someone if you don’t know which holiday they celebrate? I also don’t understand why it’s offensive for someone to say it to you instead of “Merry Christmas” specifically? Something about complaining about the way in which someone wishes you well just strikes me as being unnecessarily difficult and entitled.
                  
                  As for the wording when it comes to schools, I believe it’s just as likely they changed it to “winter break” because kids are out of school for over 2 weeks and Christmas is literally one day.
                  
                  I’ve not seen the lawsuits and I see that in your hub you just said “google it” (my personal view is that hubs with links to what the author is referencing are much more credible, by the way) so I guess I’ll have to wait until I have a few more minutes to look through all of that on my own and get back to you.

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                     jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     So, let me ask you this. Are you OK with calling it a Holiday tree?

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                        Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        Sure. I’m generally unbothered either way. If you wanna call it a Christmas tree go ahead. If you wanna call it a holiday tree that’s cool too.

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               PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Exactly.

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   jackclee lmposted 5 years ago

   Ok, let me agree with you. So what is wrong with that? It is conservative thinking that our government takes too much from us in way of taxes and spend more even than they take in. What is wrong with giving people back some of their own money to spend as they see fit?
   
   What would you consider an accomplishment? Increase our taxes so the govenment can waste it even more on wasteful programs and supporting failed organizations like the UN, and propping up dictators around the globe...

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      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      So why does Trump feel the need to blatantly lie about his accomplishments, Jack? How does that help anything?
      
      He passed 96 pieces of legislation, the lowest of any president in modern times. It's well documented, Jack.

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         jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Which lie are you referring to? I am lost....

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            jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            By the way, in case you didn’t know. Last year of Obama, the IRS collected record revenue from the American tax payer. Yet, we still spent more than we took in and increased the national debt. What does that tell you if anything? Don’t take my word for it. Go look it up, it is no secret.
            Every dollar the government takes from the economy, it creates less growth. That is the problem with the current democratic thinking of Nancy pelosi. She thinks that money spent on welfare will help our economy. If that is true, why not tax 100% and give it all away?

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            Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            He lied about precisely what your OP Claimed, Jack! Where did you get your info?  Fox News, more than likely...

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         Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Randy, provide the documentation to prove your point if you can or even if it exists.  Easy to talk but much more difficult to prove.

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            Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            No prob, Mike!
            
            http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017 … t-erin.cnn
            
            Easy to prove, as if we ever believe anything DT says anyway..

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               Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               PolitiFact at the time found that this was true: President Trump had signed 28 bills within his first 100 days, more than any president in over 70 years.
               
               http://time.com/5081357/donald-trump-si … an-truman/

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                  Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  That may be true Mike, but we're talking about the first year in office. Why does DT continue to lie about stuff which can be fact checked? He's told more than 3 times the lies in his first year than Obama did in his entire two terms. How does one tell when he's telling the truth, Mike? Seriously!

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                     Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Randy, again, it's easy to make claims.  It's more difficult to back them up.  Sorry, Trump is doing a great job as president and no matter how the left tries to ignore it, twist it or lie about it, the country is many times better than if Hillary had been elected.  More jobs, more secure boarders and that's just the beginning.  I think the worst lies are what all the liberals are telling themselves about Trump.

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   Aime Fposted 5 years ago

   Out of curiosity, are you offended by atheists that celebrate Christmas?

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      jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      No, of course not. As I said in my article, religion to me is personal. You cannot force it upon people or force it out of people.
      What I object to is atheists like the ACLU and the American Humanists that mocks people of faith and uses our law to get their way.

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         Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         But I don’t think saying “happy holidays” is forcing anyone from religion either. It’s just an inclusive statement. Not specifically saying “Christmas” doesn’t exclude it.
         
         I was only able to find one lawsuit that was filed by the ACLU regarding a cross on top of a tree. It sounds like it was one person who complained and ACLU followed through. Yeah, that’s kind of silly. I couldn’t really find any background information on it, though... does it violate a law (not regarding Christmas) about religious symbols on government/public property? Do you think that taking an example of someone having to remove a cross from atop one Christmas tree in the middle of some state and declaring it a “war on Christmas” might be a bit dramatic?
         
         I always find it kind of funny that conservatives’ go-to insult for liberals seems to be that we’re easily offended/“snowflakes”... and then they turn around and do this. Remember the Starbucks cup fiasco?

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      Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      An atheist who celebrates Christmas is a hypocrite. They are social parasites who live off the celebrations of others because they have none of their own.  I have told this to more than one atheist.  Their conviction in their beliefs often go out the window when they have to face not celebrating a religious holiday like Christmas.  The atheists I've encountered all strike me as spineless cowards who live off the celebrations of established religions because they don't have the courage to stand up for their convictions...if they actually have any.

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         IslandBitesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         LOL

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         Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Oh. Well, seeing as many Christmas traditions (including the beloved holiday tree) were originally pagan rituals and Christians adopted them to fit their own beliefs... aren’t you a bit of a hypocrite, too?

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            Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Xtians as a rule have no idea how the date for celebrating Xmas came to be, Aime. Just as they have no idea where the bible came from or who wrote it. Yes, hypocrisy is a Xtian trait.

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               Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Hope he doesn’t celebrate Easter, either! That would be awkward.

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               wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Of course they do!  Sextus Africanus (about 200AD) figured it out.  He knew that all prophets died on the anniversary of either their birth or conception.  Knowing the date of death, he decided that was the anniversary of conception: 9 months later is 12-25.  Easy-Peasy!
               
               (Besides, the date worked well in the effort to convert those nasty pagans; it's easier to gather converts if you work with them on their own holidays, and Xmas fits will with the winter soltice celebrations, Saturnalia, and the birth of Mithra - all important celebrations that could perhaps be changed to Christmas.)

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                  Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Do you really think Xtians know this, Dan? Or are you simply shitting me?

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                     GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Look Randy, I learned how to use one!
                     
                     
                     You can borrow it if you want. Like; "Hey, are you

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                        Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        Cool, GA! Perhaps you could use it as an avatar!!

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                           GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           That was a bit low, don'tcha think? I don't think there is smiley to that can take the edge off that one Randy
                           
                           GA.

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                     wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Well, that's what history says, in the catacombs of the Catholic encyclopedia.  It does seem like the man did the calculations and made the statement - whether that statement is actually true is another question, isn't it?
                     
                     And it IS true that the church caught on to the Roman propensity for custom designing celebrations to coincide with those of the pagans they wished to convert.  Christmas and Halloween are but a couple of examples - it's interesting to see how pagan beliefs and customs have about taken over Halloween, but have only made limited changes to Christmas.

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            wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Ah, but the Xmas tree came from the church.  Pagans worshiped nature; they would have been aghast at the idea of killing a tree just for decoration for a few days.
            
            But straight from the church: "St. Boniface, while walking through the woods one day, found a group of Pagans about to cut down an oak tree in order to continue with a human sacrifice. Enraged, St. Boniface felled the mighty oak tree with one blow, but when it fell it split open at the base and a small fir tree was revealed, growing inside and reaching for the heavens. The pagans immediately lost their pagan ways and converted to Christianity, and that's how Christmas trees started."
            
            Or Martin Luther began it, again from the church.  Or the "Passion Plays" put on by the church way back when (used to convert pagans) used an evergreen tree and an apple as the only props to tell about Adam and Eve.

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               Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               That all totally makes sense.

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            Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Actually, Pagan beliefs are not part of Christian beliefs.  Pagan methods of celebrating things is another topic.  Yeah, when it comes to marketing their religion, Christians have set a high standard.  I have this talk with my fellow Christians all the time and a woman yelled at me "Well, it is our way of celebrating things now."  It's not going to change and I don't believe Christians care because it's how we celebrate things now.

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               Aime Fposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               I mean... pagan beliefs not being part of Christian beliefs was kind of the point...
               
               You can’t say that atheists are hypocrites for taking “Christian” traditions that were actually once pagan traditions without calling Christians hypocrites for taking them in the first place.

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         PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         LOL. Oh my Gawd. ROFL. I am an atheist and I celebrate the pagan aspects of Christmas. If I were a coward, I would pretend to believe in God, like the approximately 10-15% of churchgoers who don't believe but keep attending church because they're too scared to come out of the closet.
         
         Why do you care so much what others do, anyway? I don't care what you do on that day.

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            Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Maybe you should celebrate atheist holidays...oh yeah.  I suppose if you only celebrated holidays based on your beliefs...you wouldn't do much.  Guess what? Pagans had their religious rituals.  Again, atheists can't stick to their own holidays....yeah.  I wouldn't celebrate Rmadan or Yom Kippur as a Christian because it would disrespect individuals of these faiths and make me dishonest to my own faith.  It all comes down to courage of conviction.  I've never met an atheist who had any or could even grasp the concept of it.

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               PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Are you Irish? Are you Catholic? Ever been to a St. Patrick's Day celebration?
               
               What about Valentine's Day, named after Saint Valentine?  Are you similarly outraged by Protestants celebrating a Catholic holiday?
               
               Your argument is truly silly.

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                  jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  People get offended too easily in the PC culture. Happy New Year! As far as I know, this is still one holiday everyone can agree on.

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                     Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Can't agree on New Year. Seriously, it's an arbitrary day existing solely because somewhere in history someone choose the year to end and begin then. I've always wondered why we don't roll the year over at winter solstice. It would make more sense.
                     
                     Festivus for the rest of us.

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                        jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        I am not so sure it is arbitrary. The history of calendars are extensive bith western and asian cilivizations. The Chinese settled on a lunar based calendar because it is more alighed with the growing and planting seasons. The sun is of course the basis for all life on earth. Our current calendar eas established long ago and it takes into account the leap days and the leap years so that we are in sync with the universe.

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                  Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Maybe you don't realize this but Catholic in Ireland and around the world as well as Protestants all fall under one banner and that is Christian.  In the Muslim religion Sunni, Shia and other sects of Islam fall under one banner and that is Muslim.  Jews have reform, conservative and orthodox and they are all Jews.  Valentine's Day is not a religious holiday and has nothing to do with religion.  Nice try...but I believe it is your argument that is truly silly.

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         wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         LOL  For the Christians that try and force the rest of the world into their mold and beliefs: True Meaning of Christmas: Family Traditions, Giving, and Children (Can't post a link, so google it.  It's on Holidappy.)
         
         The meaning of Christmas, or any other holiday for that matter, is in the eyes of the celebrant, not a third party trying to dictate to the world.

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            Readmikenowposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry, there is a reason for the holiday known as Christmas.  You may not be able to accept or comprehend it, but it is a Christian holiday designed to celebrate the birth of the Christian savior.  That is how the holiday got started, that is how the holiday should be celebrated.  Without Christians and Christian beliefs...there would be no such holiday as Christmas. "holiday for that matter, is in the eyes of the celebrant, not a third party trying to dictate to the world."  I suppose you would like to see people celebrate Diwali on the 4th of July.  Yes, it is a Hindu Holiday but with your logic....who cares if it a day people in the United States celebrate its independence.  The meaning of the 4th of July is whatever you want it to be so if you want it to be Diwali...then that what you celebrate.  Right?  Your logic is just a bit off.

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               wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               You are correct: there is a reason.  To celebrate family, love, giving of one's self and the squeals of excited children.  Some will include the birth of their god...while participating in an orgy of commercialism, buying and ignoring the ones our society has forgotten and thrown aside.
               
               The holiday got started in order to provide a celebration in the right time frame in order to convert more pagans.  The stated birth of a god (when no one has the faintest idea of when it happened) was a great excuse, but the bottom line is that it was to aid in conversion of the world.

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   PrettyPantherposted 5 years ago

   Trump worshippers  will get butt hurt about someone calling a Christmas tree a "holiday" tree, hut don't bat an eye at their glorious leader implying a female U.S. senator is a whore.

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   Aime Fposted 5 years ago

   I hate New Years. It just reminds me that I’m a whole year away from more of my beloved atheist Christmas festivities. Like, my husband is gonna make me take the tree down this week. Screw you, New Years.

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      PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Happy New Year, Aime! I'm looking  at my pagan holiday tree as I type this. It's hypocritically beautiful! Even after a couple of weeks of periodic assault by my kitten, Winston. He's trying to save me from my atheist hypocrisy by slowly dismantling my pagan holiday tree. :-)

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      jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Tell him to take the tree down...
      Happy new year!
      
      

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