What is your idea of divine justice?
I'm not speaking in any others terms, than plain simple english. Not talkin' bout what you been told to say, Willis. Divine justice. Careful. Big Brother IS watching. Not that one. I mean BIG bro. So be nice, but dead flat honest. I am, after all, just a man.
I am convinced that there is no such thing but I can understand why people might think they are being punished by an angry God.
For instance in Indonesia, a fairly religious country, right now I'm sure there are a lot of frightened people asking what they did to deserve, earthquakes, tsunami, volcanic activity and now to be in the path of hurricane force winds and rains that will undoubtedly bring flash floods and mud slides and a lot of misery to a poor population already suffering the loss of practically everything they own.
I am also fairly sure that there is more than one maniac out there happy to proclaim that they are suffering divine intervention for some sin or other. Is that the kind of justice about which you ask ?
Only ignorance, fear and superstition could ever lead anyone to think such natural tragedies have their basis in divine intervention but when it’s happening to you I guess it is only natural to ask “Why Me God ?”
Being smart enough to know that Indonesia lies slap bang in the middle of the ‘Volcanic ring of Fire’ and is a region of the world most prone to earthquakes and huge storms doesn’t make it a great place to live if you want peace and quiet from God or Mother Nature .....
To the disappointment of many there is no need for divine justice.
Many want God to punish those who don't live to certain standards.
Many feel others should not have what they have because, the others did not work hard enough.
In the US when pastor of profitable and successful Mega-Church changed his opinion and declared there is no such thing as Hell, he lost his congregation.
Jesus was a good teacher. He showed this many things through parables. For example when the prodigal son returned, the father restored the prodigal to his original dignity and power. The other son was not happy with this. Again in another parable , all the workers even those who did not work the whole day got a whole day's wages. Those who worked the whole day were not happy.
God is Infinitely Good. He will right the wrong of all and save everyone. However, this will not sit well with many for the same reason Jesus and I see.
God has written laws for both the physical and spiritual universe.
For example In the physical universe, you can use fire to cook and keep you warm. The consequence here is favorable. However, if you put your hands in it you can get burned. If this is the case, it is not Divine justice, but this is the consequence of you own action. God is merely an observer. Similarly, what you do to your neighbors will come back to you. Again this is not divine justice, but simply the laws of the universe written by God.
Jesus saw this clearly, and that is why he said love your neighbor as you love yourself. Because what you do to you neighbor will come back to you. Whether you like it or not, God will not deny you the experience of the outcome of your choices and actions. It has got nothing to do with divine justice.
I too like yourself Druid Dude am a Truthseeker,and have actually got more questions than answers,The Bible confuses me so much at times,as God seems to be portrayed as a good cop/bad cop. I have felt for so long now that Hebrew Scripture has been tampered with,but recently a very close friend and fellow "seeker of Truth" has been telling me of him reading Zecharia Sitchin's book which speaks of the ancient Sumerian texts which tells of half brothers Enlil and Enki and this is where we get the duality of "God" or "Elohim" in the Hebrew scriptures,it makes things appear more "ah i see" to me :-) if that makes sense?
Yahsuah said "seek me and you will find me" so because i have received great comfort from seeking Him i will continue in my quest in the hope that one day i will have all the answers.
As for Divine Justice i don't know what it is other than the way Thesource explained it as "we reap what we sow" theory and hope it helps us to learn from our experiences and move forward having learned from our mistakes,i try not to intentionally harm anyone but i am human and woman so i guess i'll be wearing the spiritual L plates as i grow and mature and hopefully find a better me along the way in my life's journey.
Lastly "Educated Rosie" is a name i decided to use as a tongue in cheek reference to the fact i don't know it all,as i like to have a laugh at myself from time to time :-)
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