Has Anyone Here Prosper Because Of Obama's Policies And How?

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   Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years ago

   With the prices of homes and investments going down; have you been the smart one?

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      rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      not enough time to blame on current administration, imo. many people still have their homes because they were able to refinance.

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         Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         How much time are you giving him, it's almost a year? The second year will get more difficult and after 2010 he'll be a lame duck. Just check the polls.

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      rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      my friend is in the loan business and they have prospered immensely from his policies and yet curse him all the way to the bank...  I remind her of where she was a couple years ago.

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         Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         My friend's in the loan business say the opposite, two have lost their jobs. They are around Detroit with 17% unemployment.

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            wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I'm in Detroit. Wayne County.
            The unemployment rate is 24%, last time I checked.
            My first pay cut happened in 2006.
            What does this have to do with Barack Obama? Do you expect any person could walk in and solve these problems in a year's time?

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               Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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            rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            it could be the area. I know their business took a loss two years ago and they have recouped their entire loss, which was substantial. there is good out there, it depends on where your focus is, a lot of people want to blame Obama for everything bad.
            there is such a thing as personal responsibility and working hard to make something work. at least that's what my parents taught me and what I've taught my two sons.

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               Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I'm speaking strictly from an economic perspective.

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I believe I had an ed at the end of Prosper.

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

   When self-employed people can get reliable and affordable health care, you will see a groundswell of entrepreneurship in this country. Many people are enslaved by their jobs, because of the link to health insurance.

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      wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      amen to that. I'm with you 100%
      
      I'm stuck to a job that doesn't even pay my full salary anymore. My check is about 80% capacity...
      But, I gotta have the insurance.
      
      Obama's policies won't show themselves to be successful, or unsuccessful, for a long time to come. It is a slow moving process. Still way to early to judge.
      
      However let me throw in that I know two young people who are in school now, who would not have been otherwise, because of an aid clause in the stimulus package.

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         Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         But will they get a job?

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            wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Do you expect an answer? How could anybody know what the job market will look like in four years. Are you kidding?

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               Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               The job market will NOT be great after B.O.'s first term. We have built up too much debt and China just may want to get paid back. If unions keep getting their way more plants will close or move south.

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                  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Well then, it's a good thing they are not going to school to work in a plant.

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                     Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Opening a new business is quite difficult these days; whose lending?

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      tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Wow. I really, really don't think so.

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         Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Actually, Nelle Hoxie is correct. Many people are 'tied' to their job, because of their healthcare benefits, otherwise, they would leave and do something else. But, for the small business person- healthcare is too costly on an individual plan. Since, small business gets no breaks for offering healthcare to it's employees, it isn't able to.
         
         There are some people who want to go into business for themselves, but don't want the healthcare costs to ruin the business, which it will, if small business persons are not helped. If help arrives, then a lot more people WILL go out on their own with a business, because then their business would be viable.

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            tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Of course you cannot quantify or prove any of that.

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         Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Now we'll get some intelligent input!

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         Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         She's a dreamer.

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            rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Harvey, there are people who actually equate personal responsibility with prosperity, taking initiative. the people that I personally know who are prospering now made their own wealth, they made it happen by working hard, dreaming ways of marketing bigger and better and taking accountability for their life. too many people want to blame the government for their problems. it's much easier that way... sit there and collect unemployment and point fingers.
            
            tsk tsk.... pessimists...   start a thread to bash Obama.

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

   I have profited immensely from Obama’s policies.  When I’m trying to stir up the rubes, there’s nothing like having an articulate black man in office with a Muslim sounding name to get the ball rolling. 
   
   It’s almost too easy.
   
   Yours truly,
   
   Glenn Beck

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      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      President Obama's black?

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         Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         What? You think your wife calls out his name cuz he's Muslim?

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            sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            ron I saw your picture my wife could take you out! She's 6'4" and 325lbs of roller derby kung-fu death.

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               Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Hmmmmmmm...
               
               You've got me curious

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            Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            A lot of women say; B.O.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

   It takes more than a year for an economy to pick up...even I know that... It takes time for things to work. I know you won't accept anything short of a miracle since you have often said you hate Obama.

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      There has to be a start somewhere. Even Obama says they will have a jobs summit. He knows his Stimulus has only driven up the debt, that didn't take years. You can't spend your way out of the problems he faced, history and economics will tell you this is NOT the way to do it.

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         Friendlywordposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I bet you made out like a fat rat the last 8 years with your Halibuton stock yea? Stop your whining and wait for the stimulus plan to actually kick in. In less than a year has taken on Health Care and saved us from a depression that your friends drove us into to improve your HALIBUTON STOCK. Why is he expected to fix something in less than a year, that took 8 years to create?

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            tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            1) How do you know he owns stock in Haliburton?
            
            2) GIVE HIM TIME! GIVE HIM TIME! seems to be the new YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN!
            
            How much time? HOW MUCH?
            
            3) The Obama didn't "save us from a depression," he is likely lengthening a recession.
            
            4) "Took 8 years to create" is not accurate.

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            Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            You're one of the "BLAME BUSH" people that will never relent. Reagan didn't blame Carter, the hostagess got released in how long?

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      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Do you love Obama? Would you marry Obama?

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         Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Only a bull sh**** would or did.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

   Funny, it's not the union members who get bonuses of over a million dollars a year...

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      They just get guaranteed wages, guaranteed raises, guaranteed benefits, guaranteed vacations etc. If a guy on a line makes a mistake, there isn't usually a big problem. If an executive makes a mistake, the company may go out of business. can you equate the two?

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Union leaders get plenty of everything.

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   wyanjenposted 14 years ago

   It's also funny that unions are volunteering concessions... So, when you say unions are "getting their way" you must mean, the economy is getting better?
   
   woo hooo

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Unions giving concessions, do some reading. They are DEMANDING more everything! The President has made union leaders Czars and put them on company boards.

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         wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Wow.
         I don't need to do some reading, actually, I just take a look around.
         
         I will be sure to tell my friends, who volunteered for a lower salary, that they need to do some reading so they can understand that they are supposed to be DEMANDING more shiit. According to the anti-union guy.
         
         Sorry I was mislead by the title of this BS thread, I thought we were going to have a conversation. My bad.
         
         You have yourself a nice day.

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            Harvey Stelmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            This is a discussion but liberals tend to run or blame.

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