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Can someone agree with abortion and oppose the death penalty?

  1. Erin Trefz profile image85
    Erin Trefzposted 3 years ago

    Can someone agree with abortion and oppose the death penalty?

  2. jlpark profile image85
    jlparkposted 3 years ago

    To clarify - I am answering this from the "pro-choice" side of things, rather than "agreeing" with abortion - the wording of the question makes it sound as though 'agreeing' with abortion would be advocating for it in ALL circumstances...which NO ONE does.

    Yes.
    Just because they seem to be opposing opinions doesn't mean that the same person cannot hold both of them at the same time.

    It likely depends on how they view when life begins in the case of abortion, and how they view capital punishment in the case of death penalty.

    Some people view life beginning at conception, others view it when the foetus is "viable" - around 22-24wks gestation.  Particularly when miscarriage often occurs prior to 13wks and is termed "spontaneous abortion" - many view the first 12wks as not yet "living" (which doesn't make miscarriage or abortion any less hard - having had a MC at 6wks myself).

    Others view the way in which people are executed in the death penalty as cruel and unusual punishment or torture.

    Just because both involve a 'death' of some sort, does not mean that one must agree with the death penalty if they are pro-choice. Nor does it mean that someone who agrees with the death penalty cannot be against abortion.

    Heck....isn't it Texas that has death penalty laws, and laws AGAINST abortion??? (I'm not american, so I could be wrong...there is a state or two that have laws like this tho!)

  3. dashingscorpio profile image87
    dashingscorpioposted 3 years ago

    Absolutely. There are lots of people who are "pro-choice" and against the death penalty just as there are those who are "pro-life" and against abortion as well as euthanasia but are pro death penalty and going to war at the drop of a hat.
    Some people are "pro-life" but they want to abolish welfare money payouts designed to help raise poor children.
    Hypocrisy is human characteristic. Religious people in particular will "cherry pick" which scriptures they want to follow to their defend stances and ignore the "Love thy neighbor as thyself" and "Judge not lest ye be judged." 
    Life is a personal journey. Many people have this need to control the lives and choices of others. They're not content with staying in their own lane.

  4. junkseller profile image86
    junksellerposted 3 years ago

    I don't know anyone who agrees with abortion. I know lots of people, however, who agree with a woman's right to make decisions about her own body. Similarly, I don't know anybody who thinks it is a good thing to strap people to chairs and than inject lethal chemicals into them. There are, however, people who believe that society has a right, and need, to invoke significant punishments for certain crimes with the intent of deterring others from committing those crimes.

    Neither of these issues are simple. Neither are black and white. Both involve complex and deep competing interests.

    I abhor the idea of abortion. It is terrible and tragic. Yet, I completely agree with a woman's right to get an abortion because I think it is exceedingly important that that choice is entirely up to her and not up to a panel of kings and priests. Patriarchal and religious control of woman, sexuality, and people in general is a scourge that needs to be eradicated.

    But I also tend to disagree with the death penalty. I don't think it is a good deterrent, there are far too many mistakes made, and ultimately it simply costs way too much money to carry out.

    For me, abortion rights, are a strongly moral issue, whereas, the death penalty is more of a cost-benefit issue, but that's just me. Because they are complex, deep issues, it is entirely possible for people to be any combination of for or against.

    A lot of people on these issues just completely ignore one side of the equation. That isn't very honest or helpful.

  5. wychic profile image90
    wychicposted 3 years ago

    Someone can certainly agree with abortion LEGALITY and oppose the death penalty. To be clear, I absolutely agree with keeping abortion legal, but do not think the government should have the ability to execute people. I don't agree with abortion itself, but can only make that choice for me. The reason I support abortion being legal is a basic history lesson. Where it's been illegal before, abortion rates have not decreased -- but deaths of the women involved increased dramatically because they only had back-alley options. Or we could go back even further, to Victorian England perhaps, when people thought nothing of stepping over dead and dying babies in the street because it was a common method of disposal. Carrying a baby to full-term and THEN abandoning it to the elements was safer than aborting. People fixate on this image of terminated embryos, and I wonder how many have actually done some research on what the prohibition of legal abortions truly meant.

  6. Junior90 profile image60
    Junior90posted 3 years ago

    I think it's up to the carrier if she does agree to opose abortion, in my downfall response then why open your legs in the first place there are other ways to move ya mood if you knw what i mean, common sense! If not???? Their not educated that's why go to school & do research there's more to say but im out!

  7. B M Gunn profile image60
    B M Gunnposted 2 years ago

    Yes.

    Fetuses do not have consciousness, and do not have a mind. Therefore, the cannot think, plan, hope, dream, dread, have fear, or endure any psychological suffering. Most early developed fetuses cannot even feel pain. Fetuses cannot suffer.

    Fully developed people, on the other hand, can feel physical pain, can mentally suffer, can fear, can dread, can hope, can dream, and can think, and most of all, can suffer.

 
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