Do you think we will go to war with Russia?

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   phtechposted 10 years ago

   Do you think we will go to war with Russia?
   
   Russia has been constantly in the news. Is this the build up to the war? Or is this a ruse by the media to cover issues on the home front?

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   cjhunsingerposted 10 years ago

   No, there is no need. America is in her death throes. Russia and China are just shoveling in the dirt.

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      phtechposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I highly doubt America is that bad off. If America went down, the world economy would come to a screeching halt. I don't think other countries want to take the chance that they might fail also.

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      cjhunsingerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      phtech
      I would love to be wrong.

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      phtechposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I know... Some days, I believe what you said earlier. I like the ignorance is bliss idea though. At least I can be prepared for it I guess. Maybe the glass being half empty makes people fill another glass to half empty. Just in case.

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      cjhunsingerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      phtech
      The next time you vote, vote Constitutional strength,

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      phtechposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I'm going to be voting for whom ever I think can turn the country around.

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      My Esotericposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      That would be pragmatic moderates.

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      phtechposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I would think there is one honest politician(oxymoron) out there that can do the right thing and make this country strong again.

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   CHRIS57posted 10 years ago

   No, there will be no war with Russia. - Or the other way around - there will be no war with the West.
   Explanation: Russia is economically much too weak to go to war. The West may be politically diverted but is economically much too strong to go to war.
   The importance of economics in the West overrules any Terrier barking of NATO.

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      phtechposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I like the reference to NATO as a yappy little dog with Napoleon Syndrome. I didn't consider the economic weakness of Russia, but it does make sense. A million man Army isn't cheap to maintain. And is probably to expensive to mobilize on top of that.

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   bethperryposted 10 years ago

   I think most of it is indeed a media ruse for the very reasons you suggest. So no, I doubt the U.S. and Russia will go to an honest war against one another. The appearance of cold war-type hostilities should be enough to satisfy the leaders of both sides - as long as it keeps the underlying corporate and elitist interests shrouded from public scrutiny.
   
   But I do suspect that with all purposeful hawkisms being thrown around, China may take advantage of the situation for their own interests. Of all the nations we need to worry about, China is the most immersed in the ideology of privileged power. The fundamentalist nutjobs like ISIL really have no use for this world -they are focused on getting their 72 virgins as quickly as possible. The gov't of China, however, is a socialist regime of ant-hive mentality. Their idea of heavenly delights lies in making the rest of the world kiss the boot of their political ideals in the here and now.

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      phtechposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Nailed it. It's probably a good thing I'm not in charge of the Government though. I wouldn't put up with that crap from other countries. Not necessarily through war, but politics as well.

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   Old-Empresarioposted 10 years ago

   We won't go to war with Russia because we historically only fight militarily weak countries that can't fight us in the air.

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      My Esotericposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, you are probably right.  The Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Civil War, WW i, WW ll, and Korea were the exceptions; of course each one was bigger than all the smaller ones combined.

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      cjhunsingerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Old
      Are you so bias, that history has no relevance?

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      phtechposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I'm in the Army and we train daily to fight the best of the best. I think this comment is only relevant to the last 24 years.

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   My Esotericposted 10 years ago

   No, we will not go to war with Russia unless Putin attacks the US or NATO directly, which I seriously doubt he will do; he is crazy, but not stupid. 
   
   I also don't think this is a ploy by Putin to divert attention from domestic problems, things were actually doing pretty well "economically" under him.  Once again, the Russian people, as many cultures before them, chose to trade freedom for economic security (the Romans are the best example of that).  His actions have actually put his domestic agenda in great jeopardy.
   
   Instead, I think it is his sense of feeling "dis'd" by the rest of the world and his longing for Russia's former and "rightful" greatness as the Soviet Union. 
   
   The US, under Clinton, and Europe once again did not read history and learn that if they treat Russia after we won the Cold War the way we treat most losers, then what we have now is a likely outcome.  The only administrations who seem to have understood this lesson were the Truman and Eisenhower ones after WW II in their approach to ACTIVELY rebuilding Japan and West Germany. 
   
   The West's approach to Russia was to play directly into their well known historical paranoia.  Even so, our actions amount to only grease on the skids; it was still up to Russian leadership to find the proper way, we just made it harder for them to do so; and they failed. 
   
   In that failure has now come the desire to 1) protect their borders from what Putin believes to be an encroaching Eurozone and NATO and 2) rebuild their former "greatness" in the eyes of the world (or at least themselves)

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      phtechposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I'd like to see us be good allies with Russia. I think you're right though... We have treated them like crap and insulted their fall from power. Kicked them while they were down. Now they're the kid on the play ground that too karate to beat up his b

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   JThomp42posted 10 years ago

   No. We have our hands full worried about ISIS and the turmoil in the Middle east. There have been more sanctions put on Russia in which may hurt them down the road. Unfortunately, this situation is being put on the back burner because of the situation in the Middle east.

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      phtechposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe we can handle them both. We might have to. Who knows.

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      My Esotericposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      ISIS is a military solution for EU, US,Arab nations. Ukraine is diplomatic solution for EU/US, but will evolve to arms & training support to Ukrainian forces. If NATO forces get involved, it will be a major conflict.making Iraq look like fist fig

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      phtechposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I think ISIS needs a good spanking from Uncle Sam. You don't behead American citizens and get away with it.

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