What conditions would indicate that a state is too large, and should be divided?

Jump to Last Post 1-4 of 4 discussions (8 posts)
  1. bradmasterOCcal profile image39
    bradmasterOCcalposted 3 years ago

    What conditions would indicate that a state is too large, and should be divided?

    California for example is the third largest state in area, and the most populous state in the US.
    If California was a country it would be around number 35 in the world based on population.
    2014 from the World Bank show that Brazil claimed 7th place with a GDP of $2.346 trillion. California's gross state product, which is comparable to GDP, was $2.312 trillion,
    The U.S. came out on top of the list with $17.4 trillion, followed by China with $10.4 trillion.

    California isn't the only state that would make it on the list. Texas and New York would rank as the 13th and 16th largest world economies

    https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/12738532_f260.jpg

  2. lisavollrath profile image94
    lisavollrathposted 3 years ago

    Only when the people of that state decide they should divide, and vote on it. At this point, I doubt that any state would do that.

  3. Old-Empresario profile image80
    Old-Empresarioposted 3 years ago

    Currently there is no law against a state become too populated to be included in the union. In the case of California I think we'll find that climate change and declining resources will make the state unsupportable in its current population levels in the coming decades. I would expect to see Californians moving further west into East Asia where the economies are growing or moving south into Mexico where there is potential for growing markets. I don't see them moving back east into the Midwest.

    1. bradmasterOCcal profile image39
      bradmasterOCcalposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting, but i don't think that will happen. But my question is not legality, but when should the US see that a state is too big to function properly. Although, the US itself isn't functioning properly, so then we have to wait until they fail.

  4. dashingscorpio profile image86
    dashingscorpioposted 3 years ago

    https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/12738981_f260.jpg

    Having lived in Southern California for over 27 years at one time I love the state and I don't think the nation would benefit by going from 50 states to 51 states. Nor would I want to split up Texas.
    People are drawn to the California for it's climate and lifestyle.
    California also has mountains, the ocean, deserts, wineries, large cities, small towns, high tech and innovative companies, aerospace and defense companies, along with film/entertainment industry.
    I imagine the only advantage to breaking up large states is to change the electoral college vote makeup. As of now it takes 270 electoral college votes to elect a president. Any candidate who wins California would get 55 which is almost one fifth of votes needed.
    George H.W. Bush was the last Republican candidate to win California in 1988. Generally speaking when there have been discussions around splitting up California it has been for political reasons and not it's economic GDP or population.

    1. bradmasterOCcal profile image39
      bradmasterOCcalposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I have lived in both northern and southern Ca, and there is a marked difference in how they both live, and there ideology is way different. The Eastern part of CA is totally different than S Ca.
      The democrats controlled since the 60s

    2. dashingscorpio profile image86
      dashingscorpioposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      However during the 80s 90s, and a good part of the 2000s California had Republican Governors (George Deukmejian, Pete Wilson,  Arnold Schwarzenegger). Gray Davis was the only Democrat governor for 4 years in that period.

    3. bradmasterOCcal profile image39
      bradmasterOCcalposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Really, Arnold was a democrat in rep clothing. Now we are back to Berkley, Jerry Brown for his second turn. The state legislature has been dem dominated since the 60s. Exception, Reagan.

Closed to reply
 
working

This website uses cookies

As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: https://hubpages.com/privacy-policy#gdpr

Show Details
Necessary
HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
Features
Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
Marketing
Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
Statistics
Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)