How would you feel if any US state seceded from the Union? I mean, in 2015.
Divide and conquer. It works every time. No one learns from history's mistakes and apparently no one learns to get along. What we need in today's world is to learn to get along, compromise, and save the human race.
But instead, we just pit one group against another.
I would hate it if any state seceded from the USA. We are all Americans and we need to work together for success.
How do you make people get along? It's quite obvious there are those who have no intention of ever getting along. How much more precious time must we waste?
People - can't live without them and we can't shoot them. We do keep trying though. I wonder if we could just make everyone take valium, Prozac, and whatever drug they need, instead of a gun. Better living through chemistry.
U could ask them. Hub is called why liberals and progressives hate America. 1 says send all democrats to China.2 says I'll second that.3 says I'll pack their bags. Ask them why they can't get along.
My comment is hidden due to down votes. Second question in recent time this happened. Clique is going to shut off this means of expression for me too. Watch. 1st amendment is nothing here.
Sandy, seriously, what does that tell you? Think about it!
I already know what it means "Lolita". Ive been down this road before. Do you think that certain right wingers here are offensive and insulting to liberals? Do you see them calling for firing squad on prez?Are they banned? Comments hidden? status-quo
Wasn't that tried once? Didn't work out so good for the south.
It will never happen because the states get too much money and services from the federal government - they couldn't survive without it.
You may be liberated from the sheer living hell of the federal tax code but aside from being illegal of course, you'll also "get fewer government services" Also, your newly independent nation will go into recession, and fast. The feds would take back their highway, airport, and university research funding, and maybe even demand a refund, says the Fort Worth Star-Telegram in an editorial.
Obama would close down or repossess federal courthouses, prisons, national parks, and military bases that pump tens of billions each into local economies. Plus, newly minted nations would have to pay for their own militaries, says Jack Simmons at the UT-Arlington Shorthorn. "We would also need some form of health care, some sort of disaster relief, a postal service, welfare, social security, FDA, CIA, FBI — the list goes on," totaling well over a trillion dollars. "And that's just start-up costs."
So you see there is nothing to these hoaky petitions to secede other than an avenue to vent dissatisfaction with being under the thumb of the federal government.
Hmmm, too afraid to put their money where their mouths are, eh? Cowards! If they can't walk the walk,,,stop talking. Charlie Brown mouths: waah waah waaah. Oh, and ingrates.
Good points, Tsad. I don't think they are cowards, if anything the die-hards would be willing to take the challenge. However, they probably haven't thought it through.
They would lose all the protection and monetary support they take for granted. They love to bite the hand that feeds them. That's why they are cowards, Leave--live your brave destiny without rotten liberals like the rotten prez you all hate so much.
Yeah, that's how a liberal looks at the federal Government, THE HAND THAT FEEDS THEM"
liberals don't believe anyone can feed or take care of themselves without their federal government - so transparent.
Being a liberal, we are feeding you conservatives. THATS why you will never have courage to leave. Just insult the president and threaten the rest of us with guns. Woo-hoo, big bad Patriots. NOT
It would probably be a mistake for that state and potentially detrimental to the United States. They would have to develop a new currency and government system and likely go into a recession for some time initially. Even after that, any dampening the federal government provides during crises would fall squarely on that state. Their main trade partner would probably be with the United States. Plus many of the states with active petitions to secede actually get more federal money out then they put in with the Northeast and West get less than they put in.
Plus, there is too much cross pollination between states for it really seem like a valid proposition. Plus, I doubt states considering it are really homogeneous enough to be a real thing. I would imagine there would be civil arrest within those states if there ever was real traction.
Overall, I would shake my head and think it is poor decision. Last time we had a civil war and 2% of the population died. Thinking globally I struggle to find a peaceful example of secession.
Well, and there you have it. They don't want peace, they want domination. I say let them have it: leave, and fend on your own. The rest of us will stay with the mess we have-at least w them gone, we can work together. They are a hindrance to USA.imo
There is no peaceful secession, because the whole idea is domination. Vermont almost seceded under Bush, because of his warmongering, torture, etc. They wanted to live by their values...as do Confederates, right? Let them! They advocate watering tree
What in the world does "Vermont almost seceded" mean?&under Bush?In your dreams!In 2010 "secessionists" ran for governor,lieutenant governor &seven senate seats on a Vermont secession platform and were creamed like .8% of votes.Clean your bon
Point is, it's nothing new. Let them do it if they hate America under Obama so much. And quit threatening with violence! No one gets all of what they want. If they need 100%, goodbye!
by ahorseback 6 years ago
Do you believe that a strong ,central federal government is positively a must !After all wouldn't there would be fifty different forms of policies in state government ! I believe a federal government must be the authorative leader in this country . How about you ?
by VC L Veasey 3 years ago
Should States Be Allowed To Secede From The Union of the United States Of America?Which Could Effectively End The Union That So Many died during the Civil War to maintain.
by TheSituation 10 years ago
What do you all think about this one? Seems like some good fodder for my fellow hubbers.
by pgrundy 10 years ago
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by Scott Belford 5 years ago
... are trying to encourage those who fall in the Medicaid gap they created to move out of their State? Hospitals in those States are reporting increased unpaid (meaning you paid) emergency room visits from this group.
by egiv 10 years ago
And also to those who claim liberals don't argue with statistics:http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/opini … ref=global
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