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What significance is Donald Trump referring to when stating that he will "Make A

  1. profile image50
    Mary Jaiposted 17 months ago

    What significance is Donald Trump referring to when stating that he will "Make America Great Again"?

    Is it a specific time period, event, etc? Why must his proposition be to make America great "again"? Why not make America even greater than it has ever been before? It seems as if he wants to degress all the success that has occurred through history within our nation. I truly want a deeper understanding of what Donald Trump means with this statement.

  2. bradmasterOCcal profile image31
    bradmasterOCcalposted 17 months ago

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    Mary
    The last time that America was great was in the 1950s after WWII and we were prosperous and we ruled in industry, and manufacturing, especially the auto industry, Air travel was done in American made planes, and oil, gas, and other resources were found in this country without relying on Imports. Today, we have imports from China and other countries filling our ports, and those containers go back pretty empty.

    Starting in the 60s we started a downward decline. We engaged in another losing war against communism. Then in the 70s we lost that war, and we lost our Auto industry to Europe, and Asia. We relied on the Arabs for oil, and because we backed Israel that gave us two oil shortages to teach us a lesson. A lesson that lingered into this century. We engaged in the Middle East and we haven't been the same since then. We have lost most of our middle class jobs to the rest of the world, and we have become a service industry, incestuous because it doesn't go outside the country. We invent, create and design electronics, and computers, but they are mostly all built in another country. Thanks to both parties, and all their presidents, the US hasn't really won a war since 1898. Before you balk, consider the definition of winning. For example, did we really win WWI, not really, the answer is called WWII. Did we really win WWII, not really, the answer was called the Cold War, and Eastern Europe going from the Nazis to the USSR. and so on. We haven't had the prosperity of the 50s because of all these wars, and the reliance on the Middle East for our oil resources.
    We have had 2 devastating Ponzi schemes inflicted on our economy. The dot com bubble, which made it look like prosperity but when it burst only the creators of this farce came out ahead. The last Ponzi scheme broke the bank, and we still haven't recovered. The economic meltdown in 2008, saved the financial institutions that along with the US govt created the housing bubble, but didn't do anything for the victims. The unemployment figures look good today, but that is because they no longer include those victims that couldn't get jobs and finally lost their unemployment benefits, at which time they fall off the stats. CEOs and upper mgmt of these financial institutions took the bailout money and gave themselves 7 figure bonuses. Really you bankrupt your company and you get a bonus. Congress and the presidents did nothing. There is more, but I have run out of characters.

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      Mary Jaiposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Those points do hold critical truth! Though in a sense, being "great" is an opinion. You state that America was great in the 1950s after WWII, but not for all American citizens in all aspects. Why can't our goal be to be even greater than the 1950s?

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    peter565posted 17 months ago

    The economy suck and neither Bush nor Obama have any success fixing it. Trump believe he got what it take and he have draw out his policy of how to fix it, within his election policy proposal, he believe it would work and lots of people also believe it would work that is why he got elected. However, there is a major flaw in Trump's plan, he intent to keep expending US military, fixing the economy and continue military expansion in the same time is very hard to achieve, one of the reason neither Obama nor Bush is able to fix the economy, is the money be thrown into the miltiary especially with the Iraq and Afghan war. Unfortuently, we can't pull troops out of Iraq or Afghanistan and there is a need for US miltiary, to continue upgrade at its current rate, but I don't believe there is a need to upgrade at a rate, faster then this and the US is already spending 50% of the tax payer money on defense (and anybody who serve in the miltiary would tell u, despite the chain of command system of the defense force, make it the most effective fighting force, it also allow corruption to easily occur, every country in the world struggle with miltiary corruption, that's why in US, it have e.g. NCIS, in Taiwan recently, military court just became independent from the military (the entire JAG branch is no longer a part of the military). In the beginning of Afghan war, Australia army got a case where soldiers fighting in Afghanistan on purpose opening fire on their own and then report the dead soldier KIA. If u watch Vietnam war memoir made into movie, u know corruption of then US army was insane and is one reason the US lost Vietnam War.) as a result, lots of time, cost of military development, become 2 or 3 times higher then it should, due to certain corruption, went unnoticed by the government. If Trump want to expend US defense force at a even faster rate then current, it mean he must spend more then 50% tax payer money on defense, which won't leave much money for fixing economy

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      Mary Jaiposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      I'm sorry. It physically pained me to read the first two sentences because of the illiteracy, so I can't comprehend your words past the first sentence, since they're not articulated well. Please, forgive me.

  4. blueheron profile image96
    blueheronposted 17 months ago

    I don't think you are aware of the staggering decline in our country's prosperity over the past few decades: declining real incomes, declining rates of home ownership, a labor participation rate that is the lowest it's been since the 1970s, staggering public and private debt burdens, staggering tax burdens on businesses and the middle class, the regulatory strangling of businesses, etc.

    The 1950s and 60s were eras of immense prosperity for most Americans. Most families were supported comfortably by a single breadwinner, even though family size was generally larger than it is today. Those years were also an era of inexpensive health care and pretty darned good public education. A college education was VERY inexpensive, compared to today. (If I remember right, my tuition in the 70s was $12 per semester, and I graduated with about $1,200 in student loan debt, for about two years' living expenses.) Jobs were abundant for young, old, and everybody in between. I don't think there was any time in the 60s that I didn't get the first job I applied for. Most young people moved out of their parents' homes when they were 18-20 years old, and were able to support themselves.

    Young people today weren't around during those years, so they don't remember the years of stay-at-home moms and family vacations in the new car. They probably can't even imagine going to work for an employer in their 20s and working for the same employer until they retired at 65--and began drawing a generous pension.

    That's what Trump means by "make America great again."

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      Mary Jaiposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Those were "great" times, but you need to consider the demographics of who experienced this prosperity. Consider all other aspects that America has improved. 15.8 mill new jobs, 20 mill more people insured, 165k troops home from war. Thanks, Obama.

    2. blueheron profile image96
      blueheronposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Blacks were FAR better off in the 1950s-60s than they are now. Black men had breadwinner jobs, black neighborhoods were FAR safer. Black kids got decent education. 94% of the new jobs were part time. Obamacare is merely a huge, very burdensome tax.

    3. bradmasterOCcal profile image31
      bradmasterOCcalposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      look at US the 50s. (Obama): 4.9%unemploy rate is 8y low, but # people on food stamps (48.5 mil) remains high. Bill Clinton& Ronald Reagan added more jobs than Obama. U.S. goods exports.$1.6 trillion last yr, but imported nearly $2.4 tril last yr

  5. Old-Empresario profile image81
    Old-Empresarioposted 17 months ago

    He's referring to post World War II prosperity and affluence.

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      Mary Jaiposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Indeed, being superior to the rest of world and killing many non-American lives, but prospering within our own country and affluence for ourselves. What are the demographics of who experienced this prosperity? But indeed a great time.

    2. blueheron profile image96
      blueheronposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      You seem to be implying that the US started WWII. Europe would have bombed itself flat without any help from us. ALL demographics were FAR better off.

    3. bradmasterOCcal profile image31
      bradmasterOCcalposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Mary Jai, WWII actually was the reason the depression ended. After the war, was prosperity as we have never seen it again if you believe history. The decline of the US started in the 70s and has continued till today. Our National hiways were built

 
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