Is being in the Climate Accord good? Is our stock market going up good? Trade of

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   Ericdierkerposted 17 months ago

   Is being in the Climate Accord good? Is our stock market going up good? Trade offs good?
   
   Not a news report and not an expert saying this; News of pulling out of the accord and the stock market shot up to all time highs. The stock market is the primary investment for retired seniors to make their retirement fund last. Stock market doing well means more jobs. I wonder if the kids from Watts looking for a job cares about the accord. I doubt that the father of three looking for a job cares about the accord. Of course countries are pissed off they expected us to pay for it. Can someone be an environmentalist and still love people more?

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   jackclee lmposted 17 months ago

   Paris Climate Accord was a bad deal for the USA, stock market up over 10% is very good for all people. No trade off for me. I am a climate change skeptic.

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      Ericdierkerposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Jack I have hiked where within 1,000 feet you can see billions of years of sediment and metamorphic activity. Some - within 5 inches are 5 layers making clear 5 receding and increasing sea levels like 100 miles worth. Change - hell yes!

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      The0NatureBoyposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      The "Chemtrail" cloud blankets keeping the temperature from cooling at night is the real culprit. Winters have been getting warmer since they began in 2004 that I know of. Stop market doesn't matter to me who depends on the environment.

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      Ericdierkerposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Elijah that ignores the wind factor.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Wind cools the plants, earth only when it's bare, and as soon as it stop the sun reheats it.

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   gregasposted 17 months ago

   The climate is going to go through it's natural changes, which is what it is doing, as it has done for millions of years. Nothing man is going to do will change that. It is just another way of fining companies and making more monies for the politicians to line their pockets with. Just my opinion, but something to think about.

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      Ericdierkerposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Greg In 80" I lived on bluffs above Pacific. Penatuba was a Volcano in the Philippines and another hit like near the Arctic- Greenland maybe. Our temperature that summer was Ave 5 degree colder,blocked sun rays from ash. Just like the movie So. Pac.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Carbon is not the problem the clouds making Chemical Trails (chemtrails) being sprayed everywhere daily is. Clouds keeps the heat close to the earth, thus, the climate change that began in 2004 when chemtrails started. That isn't natural, carbon is.

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      Ericdierkerposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Elijah that only is true in your "complete blanket" concept. Heat inversions are real.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      A sheet will keep a body warm in winter, thin clouds will keep the earth warm, it can't thermal evaporate into the atmosphere for cooling.

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   The0NatureBoyposted 17 months ago

   I don't believe Carbon emissions is the major cause of the warming trend. I first observed "Chemtrails" in summer of 2004 when I looked up and saw what I thought were contrails [condensation trails] extending far behind aircrafts longer than contrails usually do and I wondered why. A few years later I heard beginning in 2004 the earth was warming faster than normal and finally in 2009, in DC, I saw why.
   
   In the 60s and early 70s when I almost always watched the weather they would say "clouds are like a blanket" that prevent the heat from escaping into atmosphere and keeps the earth from cooling. In seeing how the chemtrails often linger and with combined with others forming thin clouds it is easy to see what the cause of the announced warming trend is So I do not think, based on my limited knowledge of it, the climate accord is necessary but I need proof to say it will benefit or not.
   
   The trade offs are good for those who approve of them and not for those who don't, they are judgements without its full 360 degrees of understanding.

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      Ericdierkerposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      A fun one Elijah. The hotter it gets the more water on the surface. The more water on the surface the more evaporation meaning more cloud cover and a cooler earth. Can we say cyclical?
      I hope there is no one who wants to interfere with that.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Dry earth heat and cool fast, earth is dry, with chemtrail clouds earth don't cool as much. 40 years ago clear summer nights dropped 30+ degrees, winter 40-50+, 10+ less in winter, today summer drops about 15+ and winter 30+, there's the warming.

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