Who and/or what contributed to the shooter's targeting of Republicans at the bal

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  1. RTalloni profile image89
    RTalloniposted 15 months ago

    Who and/or what contributed to the shooter's targeting of Republicans at the ball field today?

    Is the viciousness of the vitriol from prominent democrats/media/entertainment personalities toward anyone who opposes their agenda(s) greatly responsible for the targeting of Republican congressman in the D.C. suburb on this Flag Day? Or is their hate speech okay? If we do not hear them openly confess that they've been out of line and are setting a new and respectable course for themselves should we take it as them considering the shooter a hero for their cause? It's despicable to even consider the possibility, but considering the ongoing savageness of well-known democrats...?

  2. Genna East profile image89
    Genna Eastposted 15 months ago

    Aside from the obvious and severe mental health problems, where did the shooter get his gun -- his semi-automatic?  "He was just killing everyone — he would've. It would have been a massacre." I don't recall the police officers wearing buttons that would single them out as Republicans, either.  I think we have to, once and for all, stop with this moronic "us versus them."  Vitriol is hardly confined to "dems and the media."  Such arguments only feed into the anger of those who are already grossly unbalanced.  If it hadn't been this gathering, his target could have and would have been someone or something else.

    1. RTalloni profile image89
      RTalloniposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      Though your points are important to factor in the shooter did target Reps. Sadly, the over the top anger at Reps from Dems whether they are politicians, news media, or entertainers does have varying degrees of adverse effects on their supporters.

    2. Genna East profile image89
      Genna Eastposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."  An illuminating comment.  So does the negativity voiced by Repubs.  There is equal blame on both sides of the aisle.

    3. RTalloni profile image89
      RTalloniposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      The statement was ignorantly unwise at best, but not a threat to do such a thing. Rep leadership has not been as ceaselessly savage, nor have Rep entertainers, nor average Rep. Blame on both sides, yes, equal, no. All need to learn from the event.

    4. Genna East profile image89
      Genna Eastposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      I have to respectively disagree.  Trump's campaign was one of the most vitriolic I have ever witnessed.  I left the GOP to become an Indie because I no longer recognized the Party I grew up with.

    5. RTalloni profile image89
      RTalloniposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      No doubt it was vitriolic, but no less than the other. Campaigns are done but the unceasing savagery from the left whether politician or... has an effect on their supporters and they need to take responsibility for their behavior and count the cost.

    6. Genna East profile image89
      Genna Eastposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      I've witnessed terrible things from the GOP.  And Trump supporters/base liked his campaign style.  He is the consummate, badly informed bully and I'm ashamed my former Party would have placed such a man in the Oval Office.   Have a great weekend.

    7. RTalloni profile image89
      RTalloniposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      Many have the same view, but the issue here is relentless over the top anger from influential people encouraging disunity at best and criminal violence at worst. Taking responsibility for the consequences of words is something they push on others.

  3. profile image79
    Hxprofposted 15 months ago

    The shooter is responsible - only the shooter.

    1. gregas profile image81
      gregasposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      But it was what he got in his head from all of the crap going around these days. With people saying how bad the world is going to be with Trump as Pres. Things might change but it won't be the end of the world like some idiots claim.

    2. Ericdierker profile image50
      Ericdierkerposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      Prof that sounds so reasonable and realistic. Even the availability of a gun is not a cause.
      But I get this feeling that the notion of bullying is present here. This concept of if you do not see it my way you are stupid. Interesting cause & effe

    3. RTalloni profile image89
      RTalloniposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      Ultimately, that is the case, the shooter is responsible, but contributing factors are plentiful. Shouting fire in a theater and causing a rampage is not allowable. The rules are not different for either side.

    4. profile image79
      Hxprofposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      Eric - I had to put more words in other than "The shooter is responsible" for my answer to be taken. I didn't mean to imply "my way or the highway".

  4. dashingscorpio profile image88
    dashingscorpioposted 15 months ago

    This is nothing new. It happens every year.
    Some unhappy people are prone to blame others!
    it's not unusual for a "loser" to decide to go out in a blaze of bullets. Essentially it's their way making sure they finally get some recognition and stand out from the rest of society.

    1. RTalloni profile image89
      RTalloniposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      All true, but not every year are Reps specifically targeted in this manner. The fact that one day after the shooting comedian K. Gifford was given a standing ovation at a public appearance should give everyone much pause for thought.

    2. dashingscorpio profile image88
      dashingscorpioposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      I agree it's not every year Reps are specifically targeted. However every year some {nut job} decides "today is the day" I'm going to kill everyday citizens like us simply because they hate their life.

    3. RTalloni profile image89
      RTalloniposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      Yes, too true, and sadly, if they could not buy some type of weapon legally they would simply buy one from a criminal or make it themselves to do as much damage as possible. It is a matter of a need to have a transformed heart and mind.

    4. profile image79
      Hxprofposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      Absolutely.  A transformed heart and mind prevents people from doing what we're capable of doing.  Good point!

  5. bradmasterOCcal profile image29
    bradmasterOCcalposted 15 months ago

    https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/12910377_f260.jpg

    The left blamed Trump for his rallies being the target of protests, and sometimes riots. Now the left is ignoring their contribution to symbolic terrorism using beheading, and even Shakespeare.

    There are many dim bulbs in the country that don't understand non violent symbolism, and think they should do some physical acts because they are all riled up by the anger, the protests/riots, and the call for Resistance.

    The anger from their people in congress on the left, and from their Hollywood celebrities. DeNiro, Madonna, and most of Hollywood calling president Trump some vile and disturbing names, and even more.

    How is that not like the old cowboy movies where the person incites the crowd after getting them drunk for the purpose of breaking the prisoner out of jail and dragging him down the street with a noose around his neck. Then they hang him. The anger and vitriol of the left from congress, Hollywood celebrities, and MSM is equivalent in potency of alcohol.

    The left has not unified over this act of political terrorism, they continue to blame the Republicans and Trump.

    They are doing more damage to the country then the foreign terrorists did on 911. and it seems they are trying to be the instigators of another Civil War which was caused by the left as well.

    From this point on, any continued resistance must be taken as an act of domestic terrorism. and the leaders on the left must try to stop their minions before it gets any worse.

    We talk about the non terrorist Muslims talking to and reprimanding the Muslim Terrorists, well not that same thing needs to be applied the the left and their implements of violence.

    Let us also derail any deflection from the left that this is a gun control issue. It is not. We need to focus on the person rather than the implement of their choice.

    The instances of gun violence are insignificant when applied to the US population of more than 330 million people. There is more of a drug use problem in the US than any other problem, but there doesn't seem to be any actions to even reduce this problem.

    This shooting should be a turning point for the resistance on the left, to implement their actions against Trump and the Republicans solely through the American Democratic process of voting!

    1. RTalloni profile image89
      RTalloniposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      The craftiness of accusing others while busying oneself with bad behavior and the movie example are crucial points since they are old tactics that still work. Comedian K.G. being publicly welcomed at an appearance today reveals the leftwing heart.

    2. bradmasterOCcal profile image29
      bradmasterOCcalposted 15 months agoin reply to this

      This couldn't be in response to my comment. I have no idea what your statement means. Sorry!

 
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