What are your thoughts on the attempted assassination of the GOP whip today?
Rep. Steve Scalise Shot in Virginia During Baseball practice this morning - details are still being released. Is this a harbinger of things to come in US politics ? The shooter was armed with a lot of ammunition and was clearly attacking with intent.
I don't know of anyone who CONDONEs Violence in any Manifestation & the RESISTANCE has been ACTIVE via LAWFUL Methods & Let's PRAY everyone is well, but we must realize Congressional Republicans recently "DRAFTED & Passed" Legislation which allows Pyschologically Unsound Elderly Individuals who need HELP Managing their Daily Affairs, 2 Purchase Fire-Arms ~ BRILLIANT Move ~
Republicans also PASSED Unconsionably "CRUEL & Devastating" Legistlation which would "Unilaterally RESCIND" Health-Insurance without Remedy for approximately 24 MILLION Americans who depend upon the protection, not to mention, a Republican Pseudo-President who has EXPRESSED Intent to Withdraw from a GLOBAL Accord intended to SAVE Our one and ONLY Planet from irreversible catastrophe, we now join SYRIA in that regard ~ Not to mention other nearly infinite Republican led ATROCITIEs ~ What kind of CLIMATE do these Reprehensible Unilateral Actions Create ??
Can U IMAGINE the "Extremely DARK Negative Kharma" Surrounding the GOP & Honestly, what else could they possibly expect ?? Despite the GOP Contention & ACTIONs, the USA is NOT a KINGDOM or Dictatorship where one man or PARTY is allowed to "STRIP" from the PEOPLE only to GIVE to a select few ELITE Wealth Hoarders which is exactly the state we are faced with ~
As long as the sheeple have money in their bank account,and 4 wheels that roll to and from the shopping mall, they really don't care how they are being used. I grew up on a farm. I'm sure the cows we raised to slaughter didn't feel oppressed either.
It goes to prove that the left are the new domestic terrorists. It is strange that even with a police presence this could happen&be successful. The left used to talk about Trump rallies that turned hostile as being Trump's fault. When it was the hostile rhetoric of Hillary&the left that was the moving force.
Now, the mantra on the left is Resist,&many of the supporters on the left don't know what that means, and this shooting could be an example of that.
Isn't it bad enough that the left wants to bring in professional, battlefield tested and perfected foreign terrorists from the Middle East, now we have to worry about those already here.
It really doesn't matter who this shooter was as it only satisfies the goals of the left.
The left condemns those people that want to protect the national security from foreign terrorists, and they prevent president Trump from protecting the country. The left also makes excuses anytime the terrorists are Muslims. The Muslims, the peaceful ones have been shy on condemning the ones that are terrorists.
Now, the left after this shooting needs to go out an bring in all the people on the left that have been told to resist, and tell them where the resistance ends and Treason begins.
If they don't come out and do this, it is a clear sign that they are behind it. In which case the republicans need to unify their party, and take the left to task.
We hear talk about how the Muslim Terrorists use the Internet turn people in the US to become a terrorist. Now, we need to add the Radical Left, although that may be one in the same, to the forces that are encouraging terrorism.
When will we hear from Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Schiff, Schumer, Pelosi, Feinstein, Elizabeth Warren, Maxine Waters, and others coming out and telling their minions that the line has been crossed. This also applies to the Media.
If the left fails to change their message to the minions, then we have seen the US embroiled in the throws of a new variant on the tragic Civil War of the past. The left initiated that war, as they are initiating this New Civil War. We are a Democratic Republican, but that is not what the left wants for the US.
Everyone that supports the left, needs to take action and tell their leaders that is UnAmerican, and they need to stop. That includes those here on hp that support this civil disruption.
Unless this movement is stopped by the left, it looks like a trial run on assassinating the president of the United States
I just had 2 questions summarily removed by hp, yet they allow the left to put questions that are without censorship.
May be time to leave this super left abuse to democracy.
Hmm. Greta van whatever just made a good point: remember the guy who shot up comet ping pong, because wikileaks said hillary ran a paedophile ring there? Were you outraged? Did you blame the right? Hubber here is wikileaks central. You go after her?
BradMan: Gabby Giffords shooter was partly inspired by Sarah Palin's political dart target with pictures of Dems. So I don't see how your Repubs can claim a higher moral ground. You are skewing a sad story for political purposes. That's despicable.
Brad,The only civil disruption going on is the fiction that has been planted by the media. That's why they call it "Television Programming". But for the sake of argument: Do U think the Jews were upset when the Nazis started losing the war?
Glenn beck said the only way to stop communist dems is to shoot them in the head.And yes,palin was telling her followers to lock and load.Its called stochastic terrorism."Tiller the baby-killer"-bang."Selling baby parts"-bang.Trump-"2nd amend solutn"
You people need help, stick to the point, stop deflecting. Where is your voice in saying this must stop, now. As long as you keep up this denial and resistance, you keep doing the work of terrorists.
Ummm. Im talking about terrorists. Hullo. Stochastic. Oreilly, glenn beck, sarah palin, trump...what dont you get? What does "second amendment solutions" mean to you? This IS the point.
I agree. The charade needs to stop. The people are going to have to grow some acorns and stand up to the ruling elite who hijacked the United States over 100 years ago. There are no political parties, but only a tyrannical oligarchy.
I don't see anything about the resistance must stop because it leads to violence.
The Gabby Gifford/Sarah Palin thing was debunked within 3 days. Already, Pelosi is blaming the Right for the shooting by the crazed Bernie supporter. It hasn't even been 24 hours.
My prayers go out to the family of Rep. Scalise.
Savvy, yes. There would be more outrage and concern if a black person was shot by a cop. People that wish the death of a president, wouldn't care about a republican congressman. They appear to want to win at any cost. Sad.
Bull. Palin was a stochastic terrorist, as is fox news, with all of your blessings. Dont now expect sympathy because its directed at you. Youve been dishing it for decades. Bon apetite
I will repeat: DId you post these kinds of comments when a Nazi-saluting Trump supporter knifed two men to death a couple of weeks ago while they were trying to protect a Muslim woman in Portland?
Ill answer that.No,they didnt. And they were happy with wiki "leaks", and thrilled with clintons constant accusations and hearings. They want sympathy for everything they do to others and see nothing wrong when its done to the opposition.Never admit!
ptosis, I dn bring up that story, and once again I am not with any party.
Scot, you are in the wrong country, it is not the USA.
Look at all the people that cheered when republicans in congress were shot down. Stick to the issue here.
The issue is, when a republican is shot, its "attempted assassination of the gop". When gabby giffords was shot, it was "a lone nut crazy", not attempted assasination of democrats. Why the diff? Cause it makes repubs the victims, claims dems are not
This shooting is an attack on all who serve and on all who participate in our democracy."
"It doesn't matter if you're a Democrat or a Republican, nor if you're a senator or a representative, nor a staffer or a sworn officer," Giffords said. "If you
If it doesn't matter,then why call it the "attempted assassination of the gop", and blame the left? Sounds partisan to me. Extremely so.
yd, it is partisan, the left is advocating violence, and violent resistance against the country. The GOP is not doing that. The left is doubling down by not condemning these acts, and the rhetoric of assassination. You are included.
In what? I hate violence and i hate guns. And resisting dumbos policies is hardly calling for his assassination. Nugent wanted to shoot reid, hang obama and firing squad for hillary. After all that, trump invites him to the white house. Grow up.
First, I'm saddened by it. My thoughts go to to Rep. Scalise and his family, along with prayers for a speedy recovery. Second, it was to be expected. I believe that we have got to tone down all this political rhetoric on both sides of the government. That includes the two hotheads, Bernie Sanders and the perpetually tweeting Donald Trump. I believe that both sides have been shouting "fire" in the proverbial crowded theater far too long and getting away with it.
I notice that the partisan finger pointing has already started, but I think it is too early to start the brouhaha until we learn what this man's motive was. Why did he attack a bunch of Republicans practicing baseball? Is he just mentally unstable or did he and/or his family lose something important because of a congressional action? I'm afraid that we will see more people going postal as their health coverage is taken away and all those promised jobs don't manifest.
I can see the headlines now. "Blank City" to get new lawnmower factory. Five new jobs will be created to run the robots that run the assembly lines.
After 2 years of "TRUMPs Clown Show" I wasn't Surprised either ~ The DIFFERENCE between Sen. Sanders & Trump is that Bernie is "SHOUTING" to INCREASE the Minimum Wage, Universal HEALTH-Care 4 ALL, and 2 SAVE Our Planet ~ Trump Opposes the same
But the antifas are violent. And sorry to say, racists and misogynists to boot. The right person for our time is a woman. "More love and kindness". But of course, diminished and dismissed.
Yes Dear, yes, we need the touch of the Divine Feminine more than ever now. Let's pray to be sent the right woman candidate.
We had her. Too late now. We reap the whirlwind. Blind leading the blind, and ready steady guns. Its what the people want. Theyll get it.
Saddened? Save your sympathy for the next person who really gets killed by a cop. This miscreant didn't get shot. Anger should be the emotion, not sadness. Once again they are using the media to make fools out of the American people.
RWB, I'm saddened because we are resorting to killing our elected officials. Some of the people killed by cops are thugs who asked for it. Obey the police and you aren't likely to get shot.
Some of the people? Then what about the rest? Politicians are essentially criminals, and famous liars. And since the shooting is fake it doesn't matter anyway. I will never submit to the tyranny of an oligarchy and a police state. I'm not a sheeple.
I walked into the living room only to see the special report on CBS. Once I caught on I was dazed! I watched it until it ended. I am still dazed, yet saddened too.
Virginia;no background checks, no licensing. No registration. No permit required for concealed carry of long guns. Open carry long guns and hand guns...and you wonder why a sicko can get an assault rifle and shoot up a baseball field. Duh. Oy. Eeeee
Ok, I have to troll. Yes dear this isn't the first wild claim I have seen you make. Where on earth do you get the stuff you just type into these little comment boxes? Are you pushing an agenda, can you cite your claims or are you just puppeteering?
No, im on a phone and dont know how to copy n paste. For god sakes, its 2017. Just google it! Obviously you know computers or you wouldnt get a new handle on here quacky.
yd, they have computers at the library.
I work 2 jobs and care for 2 boys and a husband...who has leisure to go to the library? These business people you so admire have taken so much of the pot, the rest of us are spinning wheels. Ceo must make 500 times the worker. Shazaam,highway robbery
Right brad. I should maybe punch out and run to the library to put up a link that anyone with half a brain can reseearch for yourself. Clue: i dont owe you anything. I am free to think and feel the way i do, no explanation needed. You do not own usa
Brad, LOL! She owes the US loyalty for what? For being taxed? For having to rent or buy real estate that was created by God, not the man selling it? For living in a country that has yet to pass the ERA?The "American Dream" was made for you! Dream on!
Oh, i do owe the usa. It was the escape hatch for my famy from stalin...you know, the guy your koch bros fortune comes from? I owe the ideals of america my devotion, not donald j trump. He is antithesis of america. He wouldve kept my grandfathers out
Youre surprised? This is second amendment solution. Trump called for that dint he? If hillary won, that is. Tea party signs said sometimes you have to water the tree of liberty. Oh, maybe its cause the wrong party was targeted? Remember when someone tried to assasinate gabby giffords? Speaker bohner couldn't make her coming home party, cause he was at a koch sponsored victory party....oh wait. It wasnt targeted murder back then, it was "a crazy loner nut". And when i said palin and beck egged it on, all of hp said i was spreading hate. Before your time. Yeah, and it was an assault rifle used in both instances.
Reload reload. Must not get rid of them, huh?
And the shooter was a sanders supporter....wonder if trumpites and sanderites will make an issue if that, like they would if the guy was a clintonista?
We need gun control, and we need decency in politics. And this fish rots from the head. Tell your second amendment solutions , hands off my guns party that things need to change. They need to change.
Now go ahead....vote down vote down vote down
The bill removing restrictions on gun access for the mentally ill was lead by steve scalise.....god sure works in mysterious ways.
You do realize that if the two Capitol Police Officers had not been there, 30 Congressmen could have been mudered?
Very strict gun laws in that District and yet, bad guy had the guns, sitting duck Congressmen did not.
Take every gun, bad guys Rule!
Its not a 2AD situation - its mostly to be blamed on the inflammatory rhetoric of the media - fueling the fires of division between Americans over political doctrine
yd, we have adequate gun control, what we don't have is adequate psychiatric care for the loons. Instead of focusing on the method look to the actions. Guns without people are not dangerous, but anything in the hands of the sick are dangerous.
Funny ralph, i said that about the tea party rhetoric, and was promptly told "shut up hater." But its true. These talking heads have devotees who follow their every word. And why are we allowing wackjobs access to assault rifles? That is NOT defense!
I'm shocked, not so much that a deranged, evil man took intentional aim at other men...men that bleed just as he bleeds...they just happen to have different Political views.
I'm shocked at the response of U.S. Citizens.
Some People cheered...are cheering!
An email was received at the Office of Rep. Tenney (R) (TN), which read 'One down, 216 to go'.
I'm surprised at many on HP, that I've had interaction with, that will get in their talking points, no matter what. They're so warped in their thinking, they'll place all blame at the feet of the bleeding victims.
(I understand that Steve Scalise has taken a turn for the worse and isn't out of the woods yet. My Prayers are with him and his family. Also, an Aid is in bad shape, my Prayers are with them All)
So, yes Ralph, to Answer your Question. Sadly, I'll have to say Yes, this is a harbinger of things to come in U.S. Politics.
There are no bleeding victims here. The only victim is the American people who are once again being suckered by a ruling elite. No one was shot. This is just another false flag to elicit sympathy.
Can you show me who cheered? I find that hard to believe. In fact, i don't.
No I can't show them to you YD, probably the same sick ones that were tweeting that it was deserving or emailing threats to the Congresswoman or posting sick stuff on FB.
I'm glad to see the comradery on Capitol Hill. I hope that it spreads.
Rep nannette barragan: multiple democratic house members gotten calls saying "you guys are next". 3 democrats quit race after death threats..one running against steve king, who has called for a civil war. Comradery means calling out the steve kings.
The only person I know who was gloating over this was a right-winger on my Facebook feed. He thought this was great because it showed the action of one person supposedly represented the many on the left (guilt by association).
This guy doesnt know there is a great rift between dems and sanders left. Clinton is not a gun nut. She wants gun control and protections. A dem wld not use a gun as statement. We need to be clear.
And Dean, my response to any "Right-Winger" that thinks attempted assassination is "great"...they are just as sick in the head as the gloating Leftists.
Republicans DESCRIBED the Event as "HORRIFIC", it was ~ But what's MORE "Horrific"?? A Parent watching a child DIE of ILLNESS because they have NO Insurance ~ Republicans Willfully & Unconscionably VOTED 2 Rescind Health-INS from Millions
The Sons of the Pioneers don't care about starving children, homeless children, sex-trafficked children, or dead children. They only care about a rich white politician who pretended to get shot.
Here's a site that captured twitter posts of those who cheered the shooting https://news.grabien.com/story-left-win … ep-scalise
Ralph, the FBI didn't take the social media comments about this shooter seriously, now maybe they will check out the list of those in your link. And maybe here.
If the FBI investigated every social media post, they'd need about 100,000 new agents.....there's lots of hate out there now, and it's getting worse each day
Ralph, do they really need 100,000 investigators, when the NSA uses their computers, like google and others using computer algorithms to automatically narrow down and float to the top the worse suspects? Also, not everyone in the Exec Br is working f
It's NO Shock given the "Trump Climate", but I've seen NO Film of a single "LEFTIST" "Cheering" 4 the Shooting ~ However, I've witnessed Republicans "GLOATING" after Decimating Health-Care ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsIzz83WkVI
A right-winger on hp said she might save hillary if she was burning to death in a ditch, but she would hesitate. Another right-winger high fives her. These same people are morally outraged by left reaction to scalise shooting. Gtfoh. Phonies.
This site does not exist in a bubble. It should not shock any crazies here that the FBI, Long ago began zeroing in on several outrageously vocal,angry nut cases, right here on HP. Congratulations for being foolish.
Pauls, the FBI might B a little PRE-Occupied INVESTIGATING the REAL Suspects like Jared, Ivanka, Flynn, Pence, Sater, Manifort etc and of course the NUMBER One "Hate FILLED" Crazy right here ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3HUVIZQc-Q
Hmmph. Ive nevet heard of fbi here. I do know heritage foundation had a hack here. I do suspect some russian hacks here. Never heard of fbi worried about anyone here. Highly doubtful, really.
I can see the "patriots" here really love free speech. I'm surprised someone hasn't suggested that we start burning books. I am sure Howard Zinn's "A Peoples History of the United States" is at the top of the list. Archie Bunker is dead. Get over it!
LOL!!! AP...YOU, in particular need a cold hard education on what the FBI does & doesn't do! Come out of your fog, dude! LOL,,,BTW, interesting birth name U have.
Unfortunately, we have a lot of individuals in the world today who can rationalize in their mind that a horrific act is perfectly acceptable if in their mind it brings about a personal good. Based on certain facts which are being released slowly, it appears he had a plan to take on a violent act but did not know exactly what it would be when he first packed up and went to VA. It appears he did not renew his license to be a home inspector back in December, moved out of his home several months ago and visited with certain governmental offices regularly. Most likely he was trying to get information on a place where several members of Congress would meet up in an area of relaxed security. Fortunately, Rep Scalise, being a high ranking Congressional member is required a security detail which acted magnificently in this situation to prevent further injuries.
My thoughts are that we as a country need to understand that violence is seldom the answer to our problems. The acts of prejudice, violence, etc that have been going on has seemed to not only grow but become acceptable to many. The discrimination, prejudice, and violence being perpetrated against our own are now just out and out blatantly being done with no fear or reprisal. What makes if worse, is when we should come together and hold the INDIVIDUALS responsible for these horrible acts; so many people then resort to name calling or using it as an opportunity to put down others of differing beliefs. Other rationalize the behavior down by saying, well so and so did this and you did nothing. I hope at some point we will all come together and say enough is enough. We may not have done right by people in the past, but the bologna stops now. The gunman is dead, and so there is no way to punish him, however, we can come together and stop the ridiculous actions of INDIVIDUALS who rationalize its ok to discriminate, violate, etc other because we have differing views.
Your introduction perfectly defines Manifest Destiny. Americans have justified genocide,slavery,the murder of my people, and the theft of an entire continent for 250 years. The chickens are now coming home to roost. Evil ultimately consumes itself.
Ralph...You have your answer as advertised by the comments here. The Left blames the Right. They will continue to do do and even more people will be killed. Meanwhile, Rep. Scalise is in critical condition, but they don't give a damn. I pray he doesn't die at the hands of the angry man who is steeped in hatred for the Right.
This reminds me of the Civil War, when Democrats hated President Lincoln because he wanted to free the slaves. The hypocrisy of the Left sickens me. I don't even care at this point if they ban me. Most of the comments here are sickening. Who makes excuses for someone who kills in the name of politics? Not anyone I care to be associated with.
It wasn't a civil war but a war between the states, and Lincoln didn't start it for slave saving but for secession. It would as if Brexit wanted to leave & the EU and France invaded Britain. States were sovereign like countries. Not like now...
Right, and as part of the sweetener to keep them in, we got the electoral college, giving a person in wyoming three times the clout i have. And savvy, the feeling is mutual. Gun worship and easy access to them is killing americans every single day.
savvyd ~ Republicans had the AUDACITY 2 PASS "EVIL Legislation" that TERMINATED Health Ins for 24 MILLION Americans while GIFTING 800 Billion 2 Greedy Wealth HOARDERs and then actually called it a "Health-Bill" ~ That doesn't "SICKEN" U ??
A.P. - Stay focused.....A crazed, politically agitated Man, opened fire on men out practicing for a Charity baseball game. After he (Evil Man) asked the question and received confirmation that they were, in fact, the Republicans, he took aim!
It appears that this means nothing to the twisted on the left. There is nothing that can get them to act like concerned Americans. Pathetic.
ALWAYs Fact FOCUSED ~ I'm not Suggesting the Shooter was as Mentally DISTURBED as Donald John, but Republicans did Facilitate him ~ http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tru … al-n727221
Yes, he hated trump and the republicans. He also hated hillary clinton. He voted for jill stein. And? A trump supporter recently stabbed a black man to death. Another shot up a mosque. Do you take blame? Hate-mongering is a well worn tradition here.
Where were you when a Nazi-saluting Trump supporter knifed two men to death a couple of weeks ago while they were trying to protect a Muslim woman in Portland?
Yes, when a person of color is assaulted, or a white person is killed defending a person of color, the Archie Bunker Brigade is conspicuously silent. But they come runnin' when a rich white politician pretends to be shot.
Promisem, the stabber had voted for Bernie Sanders. Trump supporters had reported him to police because of his Nazi craziness. The police did nothing. Trump condemned the stabbing. I don't know if Bernie did as well.
Please provide proof from a credible source and not a conservative blog that he voted for Sanders.
The point remains that hatred of anyone not white or Christian very much belongs to Trump supporters.
Republican rep joe walsh says "screw bi-partisanship. America is at war with itself. Grab your muskets and get ready"....second amendment solution. And really, is anyone surprised? "Water the tree of liberty". S m gd h
Scott, you're a big boy. Look it up yourself. Obviously, your mind is made up, so there is no point in my doing your work for you. Deflecting doesn't make you more interesting. You got it wrong. Period. The Washington Post loves people like you.
I agree, celebrities and politicians that have hailed the Scalise assassination attempt, instead of coming out against this violence. Violence may be how we created the US, but the first thing our country did was to make violence Treason
I really started paying attention to politics in 2009 and feel that sadly unless the rhetoric in toned down this might be the norm every couple of years. You can't speak about second amendment remedies and other violent behavior then be surprised when someone follows through. The civility and respect is missing and greatly needed!
Exactly. Gun violence is the real terror in america, and we are blocked from doing anything about it. Cant even have a study on the real cost in lives and money that guns cause becauze the nra owns too many politicians. Nra sux!
yd, you need to research the gun deaths. half of gun deaths are from suicides. Another number of shootings are gang related. The open border brings $25bil of drugs, as well as illegal guns and human trafficking. There are enuf gun regulations already
Obviously not. Va is a prime example. We need federal laws regarding deadly weapons, not leave it up to the states. Did you read what those bullets did to scalise? Who the eff decided that we need this in society? What moron?
yd = the bad guys are always going to get the weapons, and the open borders to the drug cartel ship lots of illegal weapons. Guns don't kill, you have to find the people that will use them, the last terrorist attacks didn't use guns.
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