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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   Have fun and kibitz here.

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   For folks like me without cable, this one looks good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j4ay18xokg And as far as I know, CBSN doesn't seem to have a reputation for bias either way.

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      vikkijovposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      right side broadcasting always is good on you tube.

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         paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         CBS is another Fox? Didn't know. Are there any neutral ones?

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   I'll be watching the Democratic response as well.

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      GA Andersonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Are you seeing Diane Feinstein's face? She looks like she has something awful-tasting in her mouth.
      
      GA

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         paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         She and Pelosi do indeed exude pure hatred.

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            GA Andersonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            My mistake, I meant Pelosi, not Feinstein.
            
            GA

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               paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Doesn't matter. I have the same opinion of both.

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   Hard to believe it's been a year.

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   I must say, the guy is cheering me up so far.

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   Immigration issue a real mess.

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      GA Andersonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Oops, I think he might have misspoke relative to the Diversity Lottery - his comment seemed to imply the lottery winners didn't have to meet merit-standards. Hmm...
      
      GA

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         paradigmsearchposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         I'm glad he's letting the dreamers stay. I think that is a reversal on his part.

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            wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I wonder.  It seems to me that Trump often plays a much deeper game than is apparent on the surface - has he simply been pushing Congress to solve the problem in the only way that might yield results?  I expect immigration reform within the month - reform that this country has desperately needed for decades.

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   Overall, extremely positive. I hope Dems do the same.

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      wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Well, what I got from it is "We'll destroy whatever you build because we ARE responsible to solve the ills of the world".

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   I think both parties are less of a mess than they were a year ago. Same with Trump. Excluding the nuclear wildcard, I am optimistic.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

   I really think Pence looked just like George Washington tonight.
   
   https://www.yahoo.com/news/full-text-pr … 35181.html

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

    "President Trump SAID:  So tonight, I am extending an open hand to work with members of both parties — Democrats and Republicans —
    
    to protect
    our CITIZENS of
    
         EVERY
      background,
           color,
         religion,
       and creed. 
    
    
    My duty, and the sacred duty of every ELECTED official in this chamber, is to defend AMERICANS — to protect their safety, their families, their communities, and   T H E I R   R I G H T   to the American Dream.  Because Americans are dreamers too."

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

    +1
    
    
    How can Democrats not understand Trump and accuse him of racism?????

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       wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       That's simple.  Democrats never lie.  Democrats say Trump always lies, so it must be true.  It is therefore readily apparent that when Trump says he is not racist he is lying again and IS racist.
       
       That both Trumps words AND actions indicate the opposite is irrelevant; democrats have spoken and they never lie.
       
       Say, Kathryn, I've got some nice ocean front land in Arizona...

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          Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Well, I believe him because I want to believe him. I am cautious about his involvement in the pharmaceutical industry, but he is trying to appease those who are loosing Health Care benefits due to the unconstitutional fining/taxing that had been going on under Obamacare. 
          
          
          Let him blunder and then call him out, I say.
          
          Democrats must call him out, (his lies) accurately.
          
          
          
          
          
          This should be good … getting out the popcorn equipment.

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             wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

             I was a little shaky on the meds thing, too, but...thinking back over the last couple of years when ordinary drugs suddenly increased in price by a factor of 100X or 1000X maybe we DO need to look at this.  There WERE some pretty egregious things that happened.

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                Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Yes. I just wish the pharmaceutical industry had less influence. We need to look at diet and exercise and not rely on drugs so much. And I will still be called a Hippie for that.

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                   Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                   By diet I mean a good diet based on whole foods and no junk food or processed food.

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    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    So far, every single media news story I have read is screamingly negative. What's up with that? No wonder I periodically keep banning myself from reading the news.

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       … maybe its just that he seems too good to be true? They are so used to being let down, that they just can't believe their ears or recognize an angel when they see one. "Oh no, he has devil horns … not a halo."

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

    Joe Kennedy: "Many have spent the past year anxious, angry, afraid. We all feel the fault lines of a fractured country. We hear the voices of Americans who feel forgotten and forsaken. A Justice Department rolling back civil rights by the day … Hatred and supremacy proudly marching in our streets. It would be easy to dismiss the past year as chaos. Partisanship. Politics.
    
    But it’s far bigger than that. This administration isn’t just targeting the laws that protect us – they are targeting the very idea that we are all worthy of protection … For them, dignity isn’t something you’re born with but something you measure. By your net worth, your celebrity, your headlines, your crowd size ...Their record is a rebuke of our highest American ideal: the belief that we are all worthy, we are all equal and we all count. In the eyes of our law and our leaders, our God and our government. That is the American promise. But today that promise is being broken. By an Administration that callously appraises our worthiness and decides who makes the cut and who can be bargained away. They are turning American life into a zero-sum game."
    
      HUH????
    
    
    
    Joe said:  "… the strongest, richest, greatest nation in the world shouldn’t leave any one behind.
    We choose a better deal for all who call this country home."
    
    Apparently, according to Trump, so do the Republicans.

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

    And right behind him nodding with encouragement was George Washington, who has apparently reincarnated as Mike Pence LOL
    
       

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

    didn't mean to kill a perfectly good thread.

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

    How to Implement Socialism:
    
    I. Produce People who are Automatons and Willing Slaves:
         A. Give people everything they want until they forget how to work for anything.
     B. Dumb them down with Inferior Education programs which promote Blind Acceptance of government approved doctrines.
     C. Prevent Progressive Development of Writing, Reading, Speaking and Thinking Abilities.
     D. Teach children they must Work for Others and that Self-Interest is Evil and Selfish.
     E. Remove the connection to Self and Creative Thinking by way of Technological Inventions, Toys and Virtual Games which Remove Real-life Challenges. 
     F. Addict them to Substances to Stay Awake, Be Alert, Pass Tests, Make Good Grades, Relax, Cure Anxiety, Feel Happy.



    
    II. Promote the Election of Leftist Political Candidates Throughout the Nation Who Will:
   
         A. Advocate Unilateral Disarmament / Steep Reduction to Military Spending.
     B. Depict Military Action as Unjust and Immoral.
     C. Promote Radical Environmentalism which seeks the Demolition of Technological / Industrial Civilization.
     D. Advocate Stricter Gun Control Measures
     E. Advocate the Legalization of Marijuana
     F. Promote Open Borders
     G. Promote Dramatic Expansion of Social Welfare Programs Funded by Ever-Increasing Taxes.
  H. Promote Taxpayer Funded Abortion on Demand.
   I . Promote Social Welfare Benefits and Amnesty for Illegal Aliens.

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

    Mark Levin is red hot right now! In a nut shell:  "The Dems want to make us one with the state and subservient to the state. The power of the state will give people SOME sort of freedom. To the progressives, liberty is not what the founders of our country thought it was. No, to them liberty is the positivism of progress.  For them, moral truths do not exist. Law is to be based on the science of reason … not morality. The purpose of the law is to advance the state. The utopian state. Then, each of us will be free and self-realized ... and society will be free and self-realized.
    
    For Progressives, individual liberty is the PROBLEM. If you are self-sufficient and for your own independence, you are rejecting the German ideology of Hegel and Marx, the true founders of modern Progressivism."
    
    Hegel, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich |ˈhāgəl|
    (1770–1831), German philosopher. In Science of Logic (1812–16) he described the three-stage process of dialectical reasoning, on which Marx based his theory of dialectical materialism.
    
    Progressivism
    2 (of a group, person, or idea) favoring or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas:

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       PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       As a progressive who hangs out with a lot of other progressives, I can categorically state that you just typed a bunch of hogwash.

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          Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Okay, what do you guys think? I suspect you don't realize the (true) basis of your beliefs.

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             PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

             Lol, what do we think about what? That's a broad question. I can tell you I've never heard a progressive state any of the crap Mark Levin says we all think.

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                Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Concrete answer would be most welcome.

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

    What are the beliefs of Democrats or Progressives and what is the basis for these beliefs?
    And furthermore, why do you hate Trump?
    And love Obama?

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       PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       From something I recently read. I can't speak for all progressives, but this sums up my basic beliefs pretty well.
       
       Everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does his or her fair share, and everyone plays by the same rules.
       
       I don't hate Trump; I have no respect for him as a human being. I don't love Obama; I have great respect for him as a man.

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          Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          ...so one president you don't respect and one you did. And it seems your respect is based on their external appearances rather than their inner convictions.
          Interesting.
          
          "Everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does his or her fair share, and everyone plays by the same rules."
          
          Who doesn't believe this??????
          Trump?
          If yes, please give evidence.

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             PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

             Actually, I consider honesty to be an inner conviction, don't you?  What about how you treat women, especially your wife?  Isn't that a reflection of your inner convictions?  What about making fun of a disabled man?  I would say that reveals one's inner convictions. 
             
             As I have stated before, I would not let a man of Trump's character in my home; why would I want him to be my president?  I don't respect him.  He is a low, low man.
             
             "Everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does his or her fair share, and everyone plays by the same rules."
             "Who doesn't believe this??????" 
             
             I don't know.  Who doesn't?  I  only told you what I believe, which has absolutely nothing to do with what Mark Levin said of progressives.

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                wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                "Isn't that a reflection of your inner convictions?  What about making fun of a disabled man?"
                
                You know, I must have heard this 20 times in the past few months.  That Trump insulted a man who called Trump a "rodeo clown".  Now I don't know about you, but sitting in a wheelchair is not a reason, not even an excuse, to label the President of the United States a "rodeo clown".  Nor does that wheelchair make him immune to getting as good as he gave even if we DO assume "can't buy a pair of pants" refers to his paraplegia rather than financial status.
                
                As far as I can see, just another case of requiring Trump to live in a glass house, forever perched on a pedestal labeled "100% perfect", all while we do the same things we're so upset about when he does them.

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                   PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                   LOL, this is just too much.  A couple of days ago you were criticizing me for calling Trump the Liar-in-Chief.  Now, you're defending Trump for mocking a disabled man's posture and movements.
                   
                   Okay. 
                   
                   Edited to add:  Trump later denied he mocked the reporter's disability.  More evidence of his superior inner convictions, eh?
                   
                   “In my speech before over 10,000 people in Myrtle beach, I merely mimicked what I thought would be a flustered reporter trying to get out of a statement he made long ago," he said.
                   
                   “If Mr Kovaleski is handicapped, I would not know because I do not know what he looks like.”
                   
                   He thinks we're stupid.  Hmmmm......

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                      wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                      You don't find a difference that Kovaleski started it with his own public name calling?  You put a like response in the same pail as initiating the name calling, as you did? 
                      
                      Personally, I find that both initiator and responder should keep their mouths shut, but also recognize that we're all human and when insulted have an automatic, almost instinctual, response to do it right back.  Even Trump, believe it or not - he's not actually a demon from the depths of Hell, sent by Satan for nefarious purposes.

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                   IslandBitesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                   1. Charles Krauthammer (who is paralyzed from the waist down) called then candidate (not president yet) Trump a rodeo clown. - "Can't buy a pair of pants." "Just sits there".
                   
                   2. Serge Kovaleski, (who has arthrogryposis, a condition that affects his joint movements) refuted Trump's claim that thousands and thousands of people were cheering” in New Jersey when the Twin Towers collapsed in 2001. - “Now, the poor guy, you’ve got to see this guy. ‘Ah, I don’t know what I said! I don’t remember!’ (while he jerked his arms and body and held his hands in a claw-like manner reminiscent of the disease’s symptom).
                   
                   Yeah, it's hard to keep track...
                   *New excuse in 1,2,3...
                   
                   "Even Trump, believe it or not - he's not actually a demon from the depths of Hell, sent by Satan for nefarious purposes."
                   
                   He's not. He's just a terrible person.

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                      Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                      What is a "terrible person" ?  He dares to be himself. That's more than MOST people do.
                      
                      Most people are faking how wonderful they are with their oh so perfect political correctness.

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                Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                ... his inner convictions regarding the COUNTRY. Check it out! I mean really check it out!
                http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcri … d=52727276
                
                … is there anything here that is disturbing to you?
                
                (feel free to cv)

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                   PrettyPantherposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                   Do you really believe a scripted speech reveals his inner convictions more accurately than his spontaneous speech and behavior, especially when they are in such stark contrast with each other?
                   
                   I don't.

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

    His so called scripted speech was actually very polished SHOW (as paradigmsearch had anticipated.) All I can say is I liked the show a lot. I trust it DOES reveal his inner convictions. Many do, many don't. Its a mindset thing.
    
    Positive vs. Negative.

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       wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

       Of all the political speeches I've listened to I thought Trumps exhibited more sincerity - more conviction in what he said - than any other.  I could obviously be wrong (who actually knows except Trump?), but that's what I thought.

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          Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Yes. How could anyone live with themselves … to be saying one thing and believing or intending the opposite?  …. and attempting to fool the ENTIRE nation.
          
          Perhaps a drug addict.
          (I believe Hitler was on SPEED.)
          Is Trump, do you suppose?

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