ANALYTICAL Thinkers Only

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  1. gmwilliams profile image81
    gmwilliamsposted 8 months ago

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    Everything is politics.  Everything is socioeconomics.  Politics & socioeconomics are primary factors in this world. The world is run by politics & socioeconomics.  People who know these things & act accordingly will be the successful ones who will thrive.  Those who don't acknowledge these things will fall under.

    1. lovetherain profile image80
      lovetherainposted 8 months agoin reply to this

      You mean those who step on others to reach the top.

      1. wilderness profile image97
        wildernessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

        You are probably correct...for those who put socioeconomic gains at the top of their priority list.  For those to whom money and things are secondary (or less), well, they aren't going to "fall under" because their success lies in different areas.

        Yes, there really ARE people to whom wealth is not the #1 goal or consideration in their lives.  They are generally the happier people, the more pleasant ones, the more contented ones.

        1. gmwilliams profile image81
          gmwilliamsposted 8 months agoin reply to this

          You must be on some type of substance.  I haven't heard anything so obtusely illogical in all my life. There isn't a logical person who puts socioeconomics second or less, all successful people put socioeconomics first.  No one wants to live in poverty where they struggle day to day, scraping by from hand to mouth. 

          Intelligent people want AT LEAST a solidly middle class life, not a socioeconomically lower class life.  You have your priorities backwards. You would be the first one to be homeless if the cost of living spirals out of control. Did you come from a socioeconomically impoverished background which glorified poverty, struggle, & not wanting to improve yourself.  I am apparently wasting my time talking to you.  You sound like a naïve teen-age girl. Good day!
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          1. Live to Learn profile image78
            Live to Learnposted 8 months agoin reply to this

            LOL. Whenever an ideal is pitted against those whose concerns lie where you have stated they must, your view has lost.

            Why? Because, those things you say you value most can be obtained through chasing money. Keeping the eye on that ball may bring outward riches but they don't allow the time for inward growth and reflection. The very thing which brings true happiness.

            Think of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Can money, in and of of itself, build any block on that other than the foundation;which is necessary to pursue the rest. Does focusing on your goals do anything to secure the rest?  Does focusing on the things you claim are important inhibit the journey? How many miserable individuals with your views seen as the be all, end all, measure of success have we collectively watched? We pity them, on many levels.

            I'm afraid your view is held by enough to have caused our society to become jealous, petty, greedy, back stabbing and completely self centered. As long as it remains the only priority,for some, it inhibits that greater journey of inner growth for all.

            1. gmwilliams profile image81
              gmwilliamsposted 8 months agoin reply to this

              Inner growth& reflection are bulls****t when people are starving & struggling, don't be...ILLOGICAL please.  You sound like a dreaming teen-ager!

              1. Live to Learn profile image78
                Live to Learnposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                I could say you sound like an indoctrinated first year business major. I'm not certain that would do any more to further the dialogue than your comment did.

                But,it appears you are seeking cheerleaders not dialogue.

              2. wilderness profile image97
                wildernessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                And of course there is no space, no range, between starving to death and forever striving for more money, forverever climbing the socioeconomic ladder for prestige and wealth, forever giving up the only thing you really own - your time on this earth - to get more money that you won't spend anyway.  It's either starve or spend every moment climbing that golden ladder - gotta not only keep up with but outdo the Joneses!

                Don't be...ILLOGICAL please.  Your own fascination and priority of excessive wealth is not only ill conceived but is NOT the goal of everyone.

                1. k@ri profile image89
                  k@riposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                  For some people, myself included, the goal is to make enough money to get by and to have enough time to spend on what really matters in life.  Not all people who will not chase the ball live in poverty.

                  1. wilderness profile image97
                    wildernessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                    Same here.  I've never been overly concerned about my wealth - health, family and time with those I love are far more important than having a Cadillac, a mansion and a yacht in the lake.

                    Enough to live comfortably and play some during each year and I'm happy.

    2. gmwilliams profile image81
      gmwilliamsposted 8 months ago

      @wilderness, If a person wants to be socioeconomically rich, that's his/her business.  I applaud such people.  What is comfortable for one person isn't comfortable for another.  What business is it of YOURS if a person pursues wealth.   That is his/her karma as it is your karma is be satisfied w/ little.  It is each person's business to be socioeconomically what h/she wants to be unless it is dire, abject poverty.   I applaud go-getters, they MAKE history, not people who are "COMFORTABLE".   Remember the parable of the mustard seed, if a person has the POTENTIAL & BRAINS to be wealthy, who are YOU to stop him/her.  Jealous much, do you want others to be mediocre because YOU are...........
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      1. lovetherain profile image80
        lovetherainposted 8 months agoin reply to this

        What do you need MORE money for? Americans already use up the majority of the world's resources.

        1. gmwilliams profile image81
          gmwilliamsposted 8 months agoin reply to this

          If a person wants to make & have more money, it is NONE of your damn business.  You live the way you want, if a person wants to accumulate wealth, that's HIS/HER business.   You sound like a communist to me & communism is over.......If a person wants to be a multimillionaire or more, MORE POWER to him/her.  Jealous much?
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          Smoking the green stuff.....eh?

          1. lovetherain profile image80
            lovetherainposted 8 months agoin reply to this

            You failed to answer my question. It was a simple one. WHAT do you need more money for?

            What toys do you need?

            1. gmwilliams profile image81
              gmwilliamsposted 8 months agoin reply to this

              What's IT to YA...............

              1. lovetherain profile image80
                lovetherainposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                Greed is vile.

                1. gmwilliams profile image81
                  gmwilliamsposted 8 months agoin reply to this

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                  Well with society changing & the basic things becoming more expensive......you will be part of the NEW, PERMANENT UNDERCLASS.  Then you will remember the asinine statement you made.  Guess WHO will be sorry now-not I!
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                  EVERYONE wants MORE money.  I know that you are from Virginia but you can't be this retrogressive in mindset.

                  1. lovetherain profile image80
                    lovetherainposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                    I already use more resources than my fair share compared to the rest of the world. All Americans do.

                    1. gmwilliams profile image81
                      gmwilliamsposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                      That is PART of being American.
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                2. lovetherain profile image80
                  lovetherainposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                  I see you changed your post, so people won't know what I was really responding to. Pathetic.

                  1. gmwilliams profile image81
                    gmwilliamsposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                    You & Wilderness have that crab in the barrel mentality- that is SO SAD.  Just because you aren't socioeconomically wealthy( I am not either-just middle class), YOU TWO don't want others to be socioeconomically wealthy.  You want all people to be......SOCIOECONOMICALLY the same-poor & struggling.  What business is IT of yours if people are socioeconomically wealthy or want to be- I APPLAUD & ENCOURAGE such people.  Must be SAD to be a......H-A-T-E-R.    ENVY is toxic you know.......  YOU & WILDERNESS love poverty.........

                    1. lovetherain profile image80
                      lovetherainposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                      Greed is not a virtue.

      2. wilderness profile image97
        wildernessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

        You're absolutely right.  It is none of my business.  But the reverse is also true; if others value other things than you do, it is none of your business.  So what is your reaction to those that don't place the value you do on money?

        "You must be on some type of substance." 
        "Intelligent people want AT LEAST a solidly middle class life"
        "I haven't heard anything so obtusely illogical in all my life."
        "There isn't a logical person who puts socioeconomics second or less"
        "You have your priorities backwards. "
        "I am apparently wasting my time talking to you." 
        "You sound like a naïve teen-age girl."

        Apparently anyone that doesn't put accumulation of money above anything else in their life is unintelligent and illogical, their priorities are wrong, they aren't worth talking to, are mediocre and sound like a teen-age girl. The only people you applaud are rich ones, never "comfortable" ones. 

        You might want to consider putting that idea that it's none of my business where people put their priorities into your own thinking, eh?  That you find it necessary to produce a constant barrage of threads touting the glories of excessive wealth (and fewer children to love), culminating in this one that repeatedly insults anyone with a different viewpoint is appalling and dismaying, to say the least.  Were I a praying man I would pray for you to learn what is really valuable and important; what is really required for a happy, productive life.  Because it ain't gold, and that's a fact!

        (I knew a man once that truly understood what is important in this life.  He was rich - the last 1 acre private lot on Long Island, a penthouse in Manhattan and a cattle ranch in California was just part of his wealth.  He earned it as a veterinary in NYC, running his own business and retiring in his 40's.  He lived just a few blocks from me, in a nice but not up-scale neighborhood, drove a 15 year old T-Bird and a small motorhome nearly as old.  He took a job at a nearby amusement park that had a ride through zoo for minimum wage because they wouldn't let him work with the exotic animals for free.  HE understood the value of money, how to get it and when enough is enough and it's time to get off the treadmill and live.  I don't think you do.)

    3. Live to Learn profile image78
      Live to Learnposted 8 months ago

      It seems odd the OP berates those who disagree and then claims to understand all don't, and shouldn't, seek the same path.

      It makes me wonder if the OP understands what she is saying.

      1. lovetherain profile image80
        lovetherainposted 8 months agoin reply to this

        Where did she say that?  "then claims to understand all don't, and shouldn't, seek the same path.".

     
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