Another Promise Fullfilled - Trump pull out of the Iran Nuclear deal

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  1. jackclee lm profile image82
    jackclee lmposted 19 months ago

    What a bold move...Reaganesque in my opinion.
    Long overdue. We need to apply sanctions to Iran to force them to comply.
    The Obama legacy is being torn down piece by piece.

    1. profile image0
      ahorsebackposted 19 months agoin reply to this

      Can we please have our  $ 180 ,000,000 in cash back ?

      https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/14033401.jpg

      THIS is their leadership ? Thank you Barrack !

      1. jackclee lm profile image82
        jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

        I think you are missing three zeros...

      2. Randy Godwin profile image93
        Randy Godwinposted 19 months agoin reply to this

        You do realize that money already belonged to Iran and had been frozen for many years. If we didn't return it to it's rightful owners then the US would face a World Court issue.

        Of course, some Spanky fans would've liked us to steal it in true Trumpian fashion. cool  Fake news Faux somehow omits this during their "reporting" leaving their watchers ignorant of important facts. You are an excellent example of such. smile

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          ahorsebackposted 19 months agoin reply to this

          That's irrelevant  , Iran should and could have been fined ,  never to receive their "Kill All Americans "  cash ,  Obama went outside of the necessary legislative actions to executive order  that deal  in the last year of his term.  What an arrogant act from a lousy role of leadership .  He "had to do" NOTHING of the kind .

    2. promisem profile image97
      promisemposted 19 months agoin reply to this

      The International Atomic Energy Agency and all of our former allies say Iran was complying with the deal.

      Even "The American Conservative" ran a headline saying Iran was in compliance.

      http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ … s-working/

      Now Iran is free to resume developing nuclear weapons.

      We can't let facts and logic get in the way of our impulsive and irrational President.

      1. jackclee lm profile image82
        jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

        I don’t trust the government of Iran or the international organizations...
        A good deal or a bad deal is easy to assess.
        What Obama and Kerry negotiated was a bad deal. That is why the Iranians were celebrating...
        They got billions of cash in return for very little.

        WWRD?
        He walked away from Reykjavik...
        Obama was no Reagan...
        If he thought it was such a good deal, why didn’t he go to Congress and pass a treaty which would have enshrined this deal?

        Questions? Questions?
        Very little answers.

        1. Readmikenow profile image98
          Readmikenowposted 19 months agoin reply to this

          According to the BBC..."These facts are consistent with what the United States has long known: Iran has a robust, clandestine nuclear weapons programme that it has tried and failed to hide from the world and from its own people..."

          http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43952196

          1. promisem profile image97
            promisemposted 19 months agoin reply to this

            I read the same thing when it was announced. And my first reaction was, of course Israel wants the world to believe it.

            Israel wants a war with Iran as badly as Trump.

            1. Readmikenow profile image98
              Readmikenowposted 19 months agoin reply to this

              Just once, only one time, I would like to see a response from a liberal that displays knowledge and intelligence.  All I see when liberals responses are a lack of knowledge as well as lack of understanding of any and all topics  I don't know why Jack Lee puts himself out there for liberals.  Maybe he likes to have a good laugh when a liberal attempts to make sense.

              1. promisem profile image97
                promisemposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                Why in the world do you have to turn my post that was not personal into a personal attack on my knowledge and intelligence? Are you a Christian or not?

                1. Readmikenow profile image98
                  Readmikenowposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                  I didn't mention you, I spoke about liberals (note a plural).  If I attack you directly, I'll mention your name.  Yes,. I'm a Christian.  I'm honest with my opinion concerning liberals.

                  1. promisem profile image97
                    promisemposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                    Leaving out the word "you" doesn't change the fact that you were responding to me directly and commenting on the content of my post. It was a personal attack designed to evade an HP ban.

                2. Aime F profile image84
                  Aime Fposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                  Because that’s what he does. I think he’s got a serious case of Tough Guy Syndrome, overcompensating for something, to be sure. But the fact that he won’t own up to insulting you under the guise of “liberals in general” proves he’s not as quite as tough as he thinks. smile

                  Either that or he’s similar to horsey in that they both seem to have some sort of tic that requires they blurt out something rude about liberals in every discussion.

                  1. promisem profile image97
                    promisemposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                    There does seem to be quite a pattern.  smile

              2. Credence2 profile image80
                Credence2posted 19 months agoin reply to this

                So, Mike, you are blind regarding your biases toward the left. Why is that supposed to be credible?

            2. jackclee lm profile image82
              jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

              Since when Israel started a war in the middle east? Every war Israel was involved in was in defense of an attack by its neighbors...
              Israel is trying to keep from being wiped out as a nation.
              They are our only ally in the Middle East.
              We need to support them anyway we can.

              1. jackclee lm profile image82
                jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                Just announced three hostages returning from North Korea...
                It is like the Iranian hostages all over again after the election of Reagan back in 1980.
                Trump is getting results from all over the map.
                Here is what a winner looks like.

              2. promisem profile image97
                promisemposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                Where did I say Israel has started a war? Israel and Iran are sworn enemies and Israel is preparing for a possible war.

                It has been widely reported, even in Israeli media.

                https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News … spx/245277

                https://www.bing.com/search?q=israel+wa … A16A0D94D8

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              Hxprofposted 19 months agoin reply to this

              That is the TRUTH - Israel wants to see the US involved in a war with Iran.  Failing that, Israel and Iran will be fighting anyway.  I don't blame Israel though - there's been a lot of rhetoric from Iran suggesting that Iran wants to eliminate the country.

              1. jackclee lm profile image82
                jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

                I don’t know where you are getting your information from. Israel never want a war with anyone. They are just defending their homeland just as you would if you were in their place. Their survival is at stake,
                If anything, they have shown great restraint dealing with their hostile neighbors.

                I have nothing against the people of Iran but their leadership is the problem. The world would be a better place if these people were to be replaced by a moderate regime.

          2. IslandBites profile image88
            IslandBitesposted 19 months agoin reply to this

            According to BBC? You mean the WH, right?

            You missed the part when the WH revised that statement and changed it to:

            These facts are consistent with what the United States has long known: Iran had a robust...

            So yeah, they had... That's why the deal was made.

            https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-st … velopment/

          3. Don W profile image83
            Don Wposted 19 months agoin reply to this

            This comment is misleading. It what not a statement by the BBC as implied. It was a statement by the White House(1) and only quoted by the BBC. In addition, the White House amended the statement, changing "has" to "had", citing a "clerical error."(2)

            Apparently the information presented by Netanyahu (which has been known to US intelligence for years)(3) does not in fact show that Iran has breached Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). It merely shows what Iran was doing prior to the agreement.

            In fact all appearances indicate that Iran has complied with the deal: "the International Atomic Energy Agency has repeatedly confirmed since verification first started that Iran was complying with the terms" (4)(5)

            And despite pressure from the Trump administration to find breaches(6), intelligence and military officials agree the deal is being complied with:

            Senator: "Do you believe it’s in our national interest at the present time to remain in the JCPOA? . . . "
            Defense Secretary Mattis: "Yes senator I do".

            Mattis went on to say that as long as compliance can be verified and the deal kept under rigorous review, it's in the country's best interest to stay in it. He also called the verification arrangements for the deal "robust".
            (Testimony during Armed Services Committee)(7)(8)(9).

            General Joseph Dunford, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff: "The briefings I have received indicate that Iran is adhering to its JCPOA obligations..It makes sense to me that our holding up agreements that we have signed, unless there’s a material breach, would have an impact on others’ willingness to sign agreements".
            (Testimony during Armed Services Committee)(10)

            General Paul Selva, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff: "Based on the evidence that's been presented by the intelligence community, it appears that Iran is in compliance with the rules that were laid out in the JCPOA."
            (Testimony during Armed Services Committee)(11)

            Secretary of State 2017: "Iran is compliant through April 18 with its commitments under the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action"(12)

            So exactly what evidence is there that Iran is not complying with the JCPOA? Please cite reliable, verifiable sources.

            (1) https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-st … velopment/
            (2) https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/0 … atest.html
            (3) https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ne … rs-n870456
            (4) https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/0 … check.html
            (5) https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/file … ricted.pdf
            (6) https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ … telligence
            (7) http://thehill.com/policy/defense/38509 … withdrawal
            (8) https://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/03/poli … index.html
            (9) https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/h … fghanistan
            (10) https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/i … -26-17.pdf
            (11) https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/i … -18-17.pdf
            (12) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran … SKBN17L08I

  2. Readmikenow profile image98
    Readmikenowposted 19 months ago

    Here's one thing most people don't know.  The Iranian deal was never signed by the Iranians.  It really wasn't a deal. From the Daily Mail, "The Obama administration has disclosed to Congress that this summer's controversial nuclear arms agreement with Iran was never signed and is not legally binding, according to a new report this week."

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … ments.html

    1. Readmikenow profile image98
      Readmikenowposted 19 months agoin reply to this

      It appears the Obama Administration is proud it played America for the Iran deal.
      "In an astounding New York Times piece by David Samuels, senior White House officials gleefully confess they use friendly reporters and nonprofits as public relations tools in the selling of President Obama’s foreign policy — and can do it almost at will because these tools are ignorant, will believe what they’re told, will essentially take dictation and are happy to be used just to get the information necessary for a tweet or two."

      https://nypost.com/2016/05/05/playing-t … iran-deal/

  3. Kathleen Cochran profile image81
    Kathleen Cochranposted 19 months ago

    Only a minority of Americans want him to keep his campaign promises.  And what about the promises America has made that he is now breaking?

  4. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image96
    Wesman Todd Shawposted 19 months ago

    https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/14040272.jpg

    Trump said we'd get tired of winning. Trump lied. I'm not tired of his winning yet.

    1. jackclee lm profile image82
      jackclee lmposted 19 months agoin reply to this

      Me too.If this is what winning looks like, I want more...

  5. Readmikenow profile image98
    Readmikenowposted 19 months ago

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