Spanky plans dozens of pardons.

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  1. Randy Godwin profile image91
    Randy Godwinposted 18 months ago

    Normally a sitting president waits until the end of his tern is over before granting pardons. Even then they go through a process with the Justice Department before being granted. Spanky however, doesn't care much for the historical process.

    Now he's contemplating dozens of new pardons, some very controversial which also appear to be a not-so-subtle message sent to those already in jeopardy in the Mueller investigation.  This guy will do anything to disrupt the investigation into his guilt or innocence.

    He doesn't act at all like an innocent person....

    1. promisem profile image98
      promisemposted 18 months agoin reply to this

      Only coincidentally, they all bought $200,000 memberships at Trump's Mar-a-Largo resort...

      1. Randy Godwin profile image91
        Randy Godwinposted 18 months agoin reply to this

        Say it ain't so, Pro!  tongue

        1. promisem profile image98
          promisemposted 18 months agoin reply to this

          Just kidding. Gotta have fun now and then.

          1. Randy Godwin profile image91
            Randy Godwinposted 18 months agoin reply to this

            I knew you were just having fun, Pro. That or either mimicking the right in their silly claims. smile

    2. wilderness profile image96
      wildernessposted 18 months agoin reply to this

      Hmm.  Most Presidents wait until their actions in making questionable pardons won't hurt them politically - they leave people in prison, that should not really be there, in order to help their re-election and political power plays. 

      Trump isn't doing that - he will pardon those he thinks deserve it (just as all other Presidents have done) and hang the political fallout.  Restore their lives as much as possible, and as quickly as possible, without regard to his personal loss.

      And this is bad.  Got it.

      1. Randy Godwin profile image91
        Randy Godwinposted 18 months agoin reply to this

        So he's not doing this for political reasons?  lol

        1. wilderness profile image96
          wildernessposted 18 months agoin reply to this

          I couldn't say.  Can you?  Based on something more than your dislike for him and unsupported assumptions designed to denigrate anything he does?

          1. Randy Godwin profile image91
            Randy Godwinposted 18 months agoin reply to this

            Your personal adoration of the cretin doesn't affect your opinion at all, I suppose.  Mu personal dislike of Spanky aside, this whole pardon business smells so early in Spanky's first term, or do you find it normal?

            1. wilderness profile image96
              wildernessposted 18 months agoin reply to this

              Can you provide any evidence at all to support your claim that it is purely political - that he is doing it to obfuscate the investigation?  That IS your claim, is it not?

              1. JAKE Earthshine profile image78
                JAKE Earthshineposted 18 months agoin reply to this

                Just curious wilderness, why do you always ask for evidence after the evidence is already provided? Other Trumpee right wingers around here follow the same redundant exercise:

                1. wilderness profile image96
                  wildernessposted 18 months agoin reply to this

                  OK - you provide proof (not opinion, mind you) that Trump is pardoning people purely for political reasons in order to obfuscate the Mueller investigation.  No one else has (because they can't) so how about YOU take a whirl at it?  (Hint: claiming you or anyone else already provided the impossible won't work)

              2. Randy Godwin profile image91
                Randy Godwinposted 18 months agoin reply to this

                I didn't say it was illegal, I said it smells and seems political. Can you prove it's not? Also, do you think Spanky is acting like he's innocent and has nothing to fear? Seriously?

                1. wilderness profile image96
                  wildernessposted 18 months agoin reply to this

                  "This guy will do anything to disrupt the investigation into his guilt or innocence."

                  Is there another way to interpret this?  Did you mean that he is innocent of wrongdoing but you wish he weren't?  Or that he is innocent although you think he isn't?

                  1. Randy Godwin profile image91
                    Randy Godwinposted 18 months agoin reply to this

                    I'll ask the same question you ignored in my last comment, Dan. Do you think Spanky is acting as if he's innocent of any wrongdoing. Answer this and I'll address your question.

              3. IslandBites profile image88
                IslandBitesposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                OK.

                “When the whole thing is over, things might get cleaned up with some presidential pardons,” Giuliani told the Daily News.

                Giuliani made the comments to the New York Daily News hours after a judge revoked bail for Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort over alleged witness tampering, sending him to jail pending his trial in September.

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    ahorsebackposted 18 months ago

    Obama gave the most  pardons  since Franklin D Roosevelt  , way more than all the presidents between .  Funny thing - multitudes of them were for drug convictions ,coke especially, I wonder why ? Trafficking , mfg , treason {"Chelsea "Manning, Bo Bergdahl  }  countless executive money swindlers ,  on and on and on ...................Yet who does the left get conveniently outraged over , a few that Trump has so far pardoned ?

    How predictable .

  3. profile image0
    ahorsebackposted 17 months ago

    I just laugh as liberals all "decry the lies " of Trump himself in sticking his fingers into the investigations of him and his people and assorted ,alleged office or pre-office holding "corruptions ".

    On one hand they demand accountability ?

    While at the same time the fingerprints of total corruption lay all over the OIG reports released this week , the fingerprints of Obama/ Lynch / Clinton  /Comey / McCabe , Sytok , ..............

    Just let it all go !

    Double Standards ?

  4. Randy Godwin profile image91
    Randy Godwinposted 17 months ago

    According to a NYT article just released, Roger Stone may be the next guy in line for a pardon. The article states he too met with a Russian to get dirt on Hillary.  Is there another Mueller indictment for Stone in the offing?  Oooooooooh, I think there is...  smile



    And then there was one....

  5. profile image0
    ahorsebackposted 17 months ago

    So liberals , this is how politics works  :

    Lies ?
    I guess the lies of the entire Obama administration didn't bother you  ?

    Lies?
    Hillary's entire bullshyte campaign built upon lies and her political history of lie after after lie after lie didn't bother you    ?

    Lies ?
    Lynch/  Comey's self aggrandizing and obstruction of a backfiring  campaign and lie based obstruction of the Trump administration  didn't bother you then or now ?

    But now you get all righteously offended because you say " Trump Lies "? No ,I guess  it doesn't bother Trumps followers that YOU all of a sudden realize  the definition or meaning of lies ?

    Yeaa ......we're all hurt over here !

    1. PrettyPanther profile image82
      PrettyPantherposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      There are lies, and then there are the lies of a mentally ill, sociopathic  narcissist:

      "Eyebrows were also raised by a claim the president made about the parents of Korean War veterans pleading with him personally about getting back their sons’ remains.

      “We have thousands of people who have asked for that — thousands and thousands of people,” Trump said. “So many people asked when I was on the campaign. I would say, ‘Wait a minute, I don’t have any relationship.’ But they said, ‘When you can, president, we’d love our son to be brought back home — you know, the remains.”

      The math seems pretty hard to square.


      Wrote, The Week, “Let’s do the math. Say an American solider was 18 when he was sent to North Korea in the war’s final year, 1953 — he would have been 80 in 2015; if his parents had given birth to him when they were 18, they would have been 98 in 2015. More realistically, the parents would have been well over 100.”

      Trump said near the end of his talk with Kim, “I said ‘Will you do me a favor? The remains of these great fallen heroes, can we do something?’ He agreed to it immediately. It was pretty great.”

      1. Randy Godwin profile image91
        Randy Godwinposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        The man has no shame, nor does his voters!

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        ahorsebackposted 17 months agoin reply to this

        Prettypanther , POW's ?    Perhaps liberals might get a lesson studying how many POW's in WWII , Korea , Vietnam  there actually were and still are ?    What , one can't believe that either direct or extended families may not ask for the return of them , how brilliant an assumption that is !

        Really ?

        Randy , Shame , perhaps liberals should know unending "shame "for their anti-war efforts alone , especially those children of veterans , the "shame '  is all on those like you, no appreciation for even your fathers sacrifices  , no sense of patriotism  .

        1. PrettyPanther profile image82
          PrettyPantherposted 17 months agoin reply to this

          You really are incredible. Thousands of 100-year-olds personally asked Trump to have their sons' remains returned from North Korea? And you believe that $h1!t?

          Oh....my....gosh.

          And get off your snooty, arrogant high horse about patriotism, you who would ban a free press just because you and your whiny little b!t@h of a president can't handle the truth. I'm truly sick of you people claiming patriotism while men like my husband fought for freedoms you would ditch today if it meant your little boy President didn't have to cry about being criticized.

          Geez.

          1. Randy Godwin profile image91
            Randy Godwinposted 17 months agoin reply to this

            The very reason I don't converse with him and a few others, Pretty.

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              ahorsebackposted 17 months agoin reply to this

              The reason you don't converse is that you actually can't converse , you berate the subject , denigrate the debate , promote hypocrisy and get all  eight grade when you lose.

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            ahorsebackposted 17 months agoin reply to this

            Why do you almost always take your entire ideological points of debate  out of context  ?
            -est.7,800 POW men unaccounted for in No.Korea
            -est.5,300 buried in North Korea
            You can't imagine a number of  people or extended  families might want to know something ?
            I won't even respond  to your sophomoric criticism and personal insults .

            1. PrettyPanther profile image82
              PrettyPantherposted 17 months agoin reply to this

              At least I have the cajones to be direct. You fling insults by saying "liberals like you" or "those like you" then get the vapors when it's flicked back atcha. You really are like your delicate hero.

              "the "shame '  is all on those like you no appreciation for even your fathers sacrifices  , no sense of patriotism  ."

              "Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else."
              Theodore Roosevelt

              Done.

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                ahorsebackposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                You DO mean all that hogwash as , In your opinion .

              2. Randy Godwin profile image91
                Randy Godwinposted 17 months agoin reply to this

                Yes, we all remember the stupid "freedom fries" concept by Dubya's fans when France didn't do as he wanted. I'd wager horse was "one of those" who also voted for Dubya.

  6. livetech profile image59
    livetechposted 17 months ago

    The thing about Trump is that apparently, the regular rules of presidency don't seem to apply to him. He needs to be held accountable just as any president would be.

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      ahorsebackposted 17 months agoin reply to this

      Sure he does but as you state about, ".......the regular rules ...." , haven't applied to anything or anyone in this entire election or political process ;
      -  The evolving news media
      -  Either of the RNC , DNC 
      -  Congress , senate
      -  The previous administrations involvements

      All the parties involved have worn a different suit  from the inception of the 2016 election primaries , maybe the problem is that Trump is but reflecting TO the left the hypocrisy of their election outrage , the TDS , the resistance , the obstructionists  .  From the beginning the DNC and the news media changed the rules , but now wants to what , realign themselves TO rules  ?
      Who changed these rules first ?

 
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