The Left Keeps Up , Does their Violence follow ?

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   So beyond obstructists and their political mission , the rhetorical violence inspired by leftist media ,  celebrities using their popularity platforms to spread hate and discord , bloody photography and symbolic violence .   Now ideological hatred spilling over into restaurants and public places , the left has now apparently offered up a challenge to  the right ;   "We are on the warpath " ?   
   
   What's to follow , actual violence ?

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      Don Wposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      “I can’t wait for the vigilante squads to start gunning journalists down on sight,”
      
      (Milo Yiannopoulos, 27/06/2018)
      
      As someone who is clearly concerned about "rhetorical violence", can I take it that you will join me in categorically condemning this comment from a right-wing commentator?
      
      
      (1) https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 … ing-ironic
      (2) http://fortune.com/2018/06/26/milo-yian … urnalists/
      (3) http://observer.com/2018/06/milo-yianno … ists-down/

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         Don Wposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Same question to you Live to Learn (see comment above).

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            Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Yes. I condemn any that imply violence against another human being or groups we dislike as unacceptable. Which is murky. I believe in free speech. But also believe in decency. People should be allowed to say what they want, but have the good sense to know what not to say.
            
            This current problem with people threatening to kidnap and abuse, or murder, small children is what scares me.

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               Don Wposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Agree.
               
               This is an opportunity for sensible people on "the left" and "the right" to isolate those who advocate violence. There may be division in politics, but maybe people can stand united on this one issue to show that violence in the political arena won't be tolerated on either side.

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                  Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes, I believe at this juncture level heads should speak loudly and clearly against it every time they encounter it. From wherever it comes.

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   Micheal Moore says " ............We have to put our bodies on the line to stop Trump.......... "  Now there is a substantial bodie to block  Trump ?  If that's not a call to violence , what is ?

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   Live to Learnposted 7 years ago

   I read yesterday that a recent poll shows 1/3 of Americans think we are headed into civil war. The last few weeks have me wondering if that is not true. People seem to hate, over nothing more than a difference of opinion. They'll be herding is up soon, demanding political affiliation and tatooing any person who isn't liberal. Probably a big R on our forehead so they can more easily identify who to bully.

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      ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Too early to say that I believe , as we really haven't yet attained the point of ideological acceptance from the left  for a president of the opposite party .  Once a couple of years of one , economic success and two ,  a settling down period goes by I think the 'rabble rouser' left will chill a little .     Your right about one thing though -the left is labelling the right here and elsewhere  for targeting , I get that all the time and love it .   In truth , their ideology is extremely shallow in depth of tolerance and understanding of the political system as it always works !
      The left can never deny that !

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      Aime Fposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I seem to remember you being pretty level-headed once upon a time. What happened?

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         Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I've gotten scared by all the hate and intolerance. I think the tweets to kidnap Trump's son and granddaughter, then the guy arrested in FL for planning to kidnap and murder the children of a Congressman made me realize one side has jumped into the deep end.
         
         I can't stop thinking about an Albanian I met who was telling me of what he'd seen and heard. A guy in the street begging a neighbor, 'please Bruno, you know me' before being shot for no more reason than he was different ethnically and politically. The level of hate I see can easily jump to that.
         
         Even here,just the other day, a hubber asked me what else I should expect other than threats of violence. I can only assume I'd get the same answer of acceptance if violence actually occurred against those children.

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   To all !   Its very easy to take the extreme opinions  out of context , what seems  harder for some is to discern the true quantity of rhetoric coming today out of each of the  parties , the most vocal , violent and divisive party today IS the left , like it or not that is the truth  .
   
   So again , lets start there .   Otherwise  ,  Yiannopoulos is an extreme or alt- right I guess , I don't ever listen to him to tell you the truth . however he IS of a small group of alt- or fringe speakers   who are youthful , idealistic and not worldly in the life -experienced  sense .    I don't have much use or put much stock in extremely idealistic speakers . Too much political passion , not enough common sense . 
   
   So yes , I call for ALL people to stand down the hateful activist rhetoric  and remember rhetoric itself is but rhetoric ,  when they call for  activism in the streets , on campuses  or in public anywhere  I believe that is whole and other story .     WE have for years here , some of us ,  been very political  and even divisive but we all know where the lines are formed  .    While I disagree with many  , sometimes strongly ,  I 'd never bring it to the level that the growing  minority on the left has .
   
   As to how this all plays out , I strong believe that the right in America is far more of the mindset that " Wait and see "  is the underlying  mentality , a politically defensive stance if you will and NOT one of  advancing  political altercation of the left ,   Let's face it people do you remember that old " Vast silent moral majority " that used to be discussed politically ?     THAT is where I believe most of us Americans in both parties  stand   , as for me , I believe together that we will not let this get anywhere near the point of "hitting the streets ".
   
   DonW , Again this all goes back to  the question we talked of earlier  ,  Are these individual acts of violence by individual and yes , criminal perpetrators  or  are they revolutionary in nature ?   Let's keep them to the first .

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