Are you gonna' let this republican rigor mortis looking weirdo named "Granny" Mitch McConnell who presides over one of our most impoverished states called Kentucky, take away what you've earned over the course of your life ??
I mean seriously, you must have known this was coming right ? All the experts and Dems warned you if republicans assumed complete control over your lives this atrocious intent to take away your earned benefits would be tops on their agenda right ?? Bozo Trump and republicans have been sabotaging your children's healthcare system for over 2 years now and it’s about time they attempt to sabotage our senior citizens only modest income stream right ?? How else did you expect Bozo Trump and republicans to pay for their abominable corporate welfare tax cut scam which transferred 2 trillion of our dollars to the filthy rich so they can ship it to foreign countries ?? Well, ready or not, here it comes, a major assault by republicans on the USA like we’ve never witnessed before and if they are successful, it will be the final demise of this once great nation
"McConnell eyes cuts to Medicare, Social Security to address deficit"
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show … ss-deficit
UNREAL and Surreal: Bozo Trump and his republican accomplices just gave 2 trillion of our dollars to the filthy rich in the form of an unconscionable Corporate Welfare Tax Cut Scam so now they will try mightily to sabotage our Social Security and Medicare to try and pay for it:
That LONG line of evil doers behind Bozo Trump headed for that white hot pit is getting longer and longer:
"Democrats Pounce On Mitch McConnell For Blaming Debt On Social Security, Medicare"
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/de … 8b587437ad
Red ALERT *******: Bottom falling out of the fragile Trump stock market again: DOWN 400 points: Republican "Granny" Mitch McConnell making public threats to go after your social security and medicare if republicans find some desperate way to hold on to congress: CUTS in these critically important programs which would drive millions of senior citizens into poverty or worse would irreparably cripple our already collapsing economy and stock markets:
NEVER to recover again:
Alright, let me see if I can understand.....when Obummer took money from Medicare, it was okay? LOL.
President Obama never did that and furthermore, he provided 20 million more Americans with critically important health insurance via Obamacare aka the ACA which Bozo Trump and republicans are STILL trying to take away:
Hxprof: Your comment leads me to the obvious conclusion that you've never worked in the USA either right ?
Now that you mention it, there is an uncanny resemblance.
Yeah Credence2, I never put the two together either until I saw the visual:
So odd, I can't find any evidence that Mitch McConnell made these statements. I did actually hear Trump say over and over that he is determined save Medicare and SS and to pay some of what the government has borrowed from SS back. Promises made Promises kept...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SKXQeD_nOs
lol, yeah right more games Sharlee01, just like I can't seem to find any evidence that Bozo Trump is a legitimate president:
FYI: If you've ever worked a fill time job in the USA I'd suggest you vote straight DEM from top to bottom as if your life depended upon it because it does: If you've earned social security and medicare benefits and Satan succeeds in helping republicans maintain control of congress those hard earned benefits will be under attack just like our healthcare system is under attack by Bozo Trump in just another act of domestic terrorism by republican 'Mutt' McConnell as he and republicans try to drive the entire nation into poverty just like he drove his state of Kentucky straight into the dirt:
Here you go Sharlee01, just in case fox loser channel, breitbart hate clowns or any of the other "HATE" outlets have conveniently neglected to report on "Mutt" McConnell's / republicans mal-intent
"Mitch McConnell says it out loud: Republicans are gunning for Social Security, Medicare and Obamacare next"
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik … story.html
Can't find evidence.............. ? Jake Jake Jake ........Its called the electoral college .
I'd try lookin it up in a U.S. Gov. history book if you're having trouble.
I have one thing to say... Obama borrowed the most from our SS fund than any other president in history. A bit shocking and sad I would say. hard to take in I know...
That's just plain FALSE Sharlee01, but here's a verifiable fact for you, Bozo Trump and his Russian repugnantkins in congress have already added 1 trillion to our national debt by giving filthy rich un-patriotic slime bags a massive corporate welfare tax cut, they were given OUR money which will NEVER be used to improve the USA, but will be shipped to foreign lands for their benefit:
President Obama did indeed spend money, but he used it to ensure ALL Americans could own a health insurance policy to be used for medical necessities and before Bozo was inserted by Vladimir Putin, we were well on our way to providing ALL Americans with an insurance policy:
You act like a person who has never worked a full time job here in the USA because if you had, you'd be furious with "Mutt" McConnell Bozo Trump and ALL repugnantkins who will indeed slash social security and medicare if they hold complete power after NOV 6th:
"Trump goes silent on national debt while racking up $1 trillion in 14 months"
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 … t-14-mont/
"by giving filthy rich un-patriotic slime bags a massive corporate welfare tax cut, they were given OUR money "
What an odd perspective! And here I always thought that what I earned and built was MINE, not yours. I'd have to say that one of those two concepts is rather unethical...
"ALL Americans could own a health insurance policy to be used for medical necessities"
LOL You seem to have ignored that most of the poor can't use that wonderful insurance for anything at all because they first have to pay enormous deductibles (with money they don't have) before getting any benefit at all. Obama pushed through something that was great for those huge insurance companies (don't you love people that give our money to Big Business?) but did nothing for the people that actually needed help with health care. Convenient, though, when demonizing a great man for ending part of it.
"If you've ever worked a fill time job in the USA I'd suggest you vote straight DEM from top to bottom as if your life depended upon it because it does: If you've earned social security and medicare benefits and Satan succeeds in helping republicans maintain control of congress those hard earned benefits will be under attack just like our healthcare system is under attack by Bozo Trump in just another act of domestic terrorism by republican 'Mutt' McConnell as he and republicans try to drive the entire nation into poverty".
I don't care if they make adjustments to the age that one can begin to collect full benefits - Americans live longer lives now. Most likely, that's the kind of "cut" in benefits they're talking about.
Jake, did you go to school for drama?
Here are a few facts...
"lol, yeah right more games Sharlee01, just like I can't seem to find any evidence that Bozo Trump is a legitimate president"
Jake He is living in the WH, and occupying the oval office. He is our president. It's called the electoral college.
"e·lec·tor·al col·lege
noun
(in the US) a body of people representing the states of the US, who formally cast votes for the election of the president and vice president.
a body of electors chosen or appointed by a larger group."
"FYI: If you've ever worked a fill time job in the USA I'd suggest you vote straight DEM from top to bottom as if your life depended upon it because it does: If you've earned social security and medicare benefits and Satan succeeds in helping republicans maintain control of congress those hard earned benefits will be under attack just like our healthcare system is under attack by Bozo Trump in just another act of domestic terrorism by republican 'Mutt' McConnell as he and republicans try to drive the entire nation into poverty just like he drove his state of Kentucky straight into the dirt:"
Jake no other president in history has borrowed the amount Obama borrowed from our SS. Fact ugly but true...
Yes, it is true the Trump agenda does include ending Obamacare. This was just one of the reasons Trump won... There are many American's that do not want the Government spending SS to fund health insurance. I pay for mine I expect others to do the same. Trump had nothing to do with creating the huge problems with our failing SS. That was Dems and their giveaways... Just a fact. Trump has made mention that he will work on saving the program, so I would think McConnel would have a very hard time "gunning for SS...
Some people just refuse to face REALITY and here it is: If you are interested in STOPPING the GOP's abominable plan to SLASH your social security and medicare benefits while they continue to attack your healthcare by attempting to terminate the current pre-existing condition law, you must VOTE Blue on Tuesday:
"As GOP Moves to Cut Medicare and Social Security, 60% of Americans Say Repeal Trump Tax Scam Instead"
"Working families shouldn't have to pay for the GOP tax bill. The rich and big corporations must pay their fair share of taxes!"
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/ … p-tax-scam
"Some people just refuse to face REALITY and here it is: If you are interested in STOPPING the Radical Left's abominable plan to STEAL money and use that money in socialist schemes to force you to rely solely upon the government for programs promising benefits that can't be provided, you must VOTE Red on Tuesday:
"Working families shouldn't have to pay for socialist programs that simply bankrupt the way of life that provides opportunity to make a living."
It's obvious you've never worked afull time job here in the USA Hxprof but those who Vote red on Tuesday had better make plans to divest completely from the already collapsing stock market and make room to take in all their relatives who are now on social security and medicare but will be driven into poverty by republican Mitch McConnell who has already driven his failing state of Kentucky into the 5th poorest state in the union:
By the way, Bozo Trump and republicans just implemented one of the greatest socialism schemes in HISTORY, they trillions of our money to the filthy rich who don't need it in the form of their corporate welfare tax cut scam:
Remember this night Jake? One thing you can be assured of Republicans doesn't scream into the sky... LOL
I'm not even sure this has anything o do with the topic of this discussion but we do know republicans breakdown in little frightened sob-a-thons at the very thought of women and children from another country walking in a parade:
And I can't fathom a failure of a Kentucky senator named Mitch "Mutt" McConnell presiding over a tiny little McDonald's franchise let alone federal gargantuan life saving programs such as social security and medicare which he plans to decimate if republicans God forbid maintain control of congress on NOV 6th:
There should be rules which prohibit incompetent, Wall Street owned politicians like him from becoming senate leaders: He should be forced to clean up his own state of Kentucky which is the 5th poorest in the country before he's God forbid allowed to wreck retirement programs that have saved the lives of millions of Americans for decades:
"Commentary: New report shows Kentucky’s tax system worsens income inequality"
https://insiderlouisville.com/governmen … nequality/
"Kentucky which is the 5th poorest in the country before he's God forbid allowed to wreck retirement programs that have saved the lives of millions of Americans for decades:" My God you certainly deflect quickly when cornered... LOL We were discussing SS... Trump has created lot's of jobs in Kentucky, plus the welfare rolls are much lower too. Jake, it takes time to fix all the problems that Trump was handed.
"I'm not even sure this has anything o do with the topic of this discussion but we do know republicans breakdown in little frightened sob-a-thons at the very thought of women and children from another country walking in a parade:"
No, Jake, we send in the military... We enforce our laws. No matter if it's women or men breaking our laws. Now the Dems, they ignore people marching to the border to walk in illegally. They.just get out a broom and sweep the problem under the carpet, and bad straws.
Your article is poorly researched, the author gives nothing of substance, no facts... Her first sentence "Working families shouldn't have to pay for the GOP tax bill. The rich and big corporations must pay their fair share of taxes!" This is factually incorrect. In reality president, Trump has vowed to make every attempt to save SS. He has serval ideas on how to stop the failing program from getting worse. Trump was certainly not responsible for the mess SS is in. That blue ribbon goes to many presidents before him. Trump has already made our economy and worth better. I will have a wait and see on what he will do with SS. It is very clear you grab on to if comes Jake.
"Working families shouldn't have to pay for the GOP tax bill. The rich and big corporations must pay their fair share of taxes!"
We should not have to pay for flowers BS giveaways the Dems have a long history of dishing up. Many of us dislike giveaways and don't want to pay for them.
"Face reality" Obama doubled the debt with his Obamacare and borrowed from SS to do it. That's reality. "You can keep your doctor"... He all but ruined this country with his "all kind of crazy".
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-social-securit
From this point on I will look first at who posts some of the more useless forum threads , The Trumpman is giving us on SS a raise this year , Trumpman is cutting ALL federal budgets by 5 % this year , Trumpman is not filling more useless "unfilled " federal job openings , Trumpman has restarted the American job machine that Obama shut down by intent , Trumpman is insuring jobstifling government regulations are DOA ................
Next ?
While his gullible dwindling crowd of Zombie Robot fans laugh and giggle like weirdo degenerates at his disgusting retarded incoherent hate gathering babblings, a smirking evil Bozo Trump is busy lying and sticking a knife right in their backs:
He tells them another blatant LIE about protecting their pre-existing conditions within their health care policies while his own justice department is suing to REMOVE and Cancel them: UNREAL how some can be so dumb: If not for LIES, Bozo Trump would have no reason to open his putrid mouth:
"Trump Administration Move Imperils Pre-Existing Condition Protections"
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/08/61826377 … rotections
Is this a photo of Stormy? I would not think her to smart? After all, she hooked up with CPL and he lost hr libel case and now due to her "frivolous case, she has to pay Trump's legal fees... And well no her way to lose the case Cohen has brought against her for breaking the nondisclosure agreement. She might want to get out there and earn some case, I would say. LOL
Concerned about the AHCA ? Our hope is that it gets cancelled outright .
Of course you don't mind getting 'stiffed' by a con man, after all, you're a Bozo Trump Fan and Bozo Trump is a corrupt Free Loader who will be in prison very soon if we still have laws:
We'd all have to assume you have never worked a day in the USA Ed Fisher otherwise you'd be outraged at "Granny" Mitch McConnell and con man Paul Ryan's intent to CUT Social Security and Medicare Benefits just so Weirdo Elitist Steve Mnuchin can buy a few more yachts: I don't know single person who has worked in the USA and has earned these benefits who hopes they actually earn LESS money when they retire: I'm sure a few of these gullible individuals exist and can probably be found at a Bozo Trump hate gathering cheering for an orange idiot who is stabbing them in the back and they don't even know it:
Its amazing to me that you can go on name calling on a daily basis and not suffer for it while the right gets silenced left and right for minor infractions on Hubpages .
Trying to deflect from the dire situation Mitch McConnell is trying to inflict upon our senior citizens? BTW, Ed Fisher, I don't call anyone here on HubPages 'names', I do however call corrupt soon to be indicted politicians like Bozo Trump names which truly and accurately reflect the reality of their inner evil, ignorance and clownish retarded public behavior which is criminal for even an illegitimate president:
Why don't you complain about the right wingers around here who post FAKE Discussions like asking whether or not John McCain was a war hero or traitor? or discussions about Bozo Trump 'slapping down' a news reporter because it's ridiculous trash like that which will lead to the ultimate demise of HubPages, NOT the truth which I post:
If Hubpage forums were to ever go into a " demise " it would be because they don't admit like the rest of social media has and does that they indeed shadow ban conservative speech . that they kowtow to the leftist message . Just because you don't actual name those you insult here doesn't mean you don't insult them .
There's huge difference between 'conservative speech' and 'blatant lies' which we get our fill of and more from the right wingers around here and their beloved white house of sin:
FYI: "FAKE Stories" are being identified and REMOVED by social media, I guess Bozo Trump and Russian type LIES and Deception is no longer tolerated by the USA which is a major step in the right direction:
Don't you mean you're getting your leftist USA Pravda full circle , surround sound , if all we hear is 90% + anti Trump talk ?
Polls all show 80 -90 % anti Trump .
No, so I'd appreciate if you'd refrain from lying:
Bozo Trump lies all day long while sticking a knife in the backs of his own fans by lying straight to their gullible faces and telling them that he'll protect pre-existing conditions while his own justice department as he utters those filthy words, is suing to CRIPPLE this mandate: YES, believe it or not Bozo Trump's LYING has actually progressed to that dangerous point:
Major health insurance premiums and expense INCREASES are on the horizon if Russian controlled republicans maintain control and that's a fact:
Social Security and Medicare, two critically important programs which help our senior citizens maintain a non-impoverished life style will be on evil Bozo Trump's and republicans chopping block as well if Satan steps in and wins again by helping republicans maintain control over congress:
Republicans must be decimated this NOV at the polls or we will continue to crumble as a once great nation, only we will meet our demise at an accelerated pace:
Well Jake, wild horses could not keep me from the polls in this critical election season, neutralizing, as in making inert, Trump and his agenda is certainly my quest for November. A Democratic controlled House of Reps will do just that.
Good Credence2, and I think even many former Bozo Trump fans are finally coming around and snapping out of the fog after republican Mitch McConnell probably due to dementia, said in public he, Bozo Trump and his evil republican congress will come 'gunning' to kill our healthcare, our children's healthcare and our social security and medicare:
After what Mitch McConnell pledged and Bozo Trump's ongoing assault on our healthcare, stabbing his own voters in the back, If an individual is still dumb and gullible enough to vote republican this NOV they get what they deserve I suppose:
That's just another of your endless falsehoods Ed Fisher and you know it, Bozo Trump must be rubbing off on his last remaining fans: If you've ever worked a single day in your life here in the USA, you should read this Extremely ALARMING Article and get ready to POUNCE on Mitch McConnell, Bozo Trump and all other complicit republicans at the polls, ALL of whom are desperately trying to turn this once great nation into Russia:
"Mitch McConnell says it out loud: Republicans are gunning for Social Security, Medicare and Obamacare next"
"All Washington seems to be buzzing this week over a single question: Is Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) deliberately trying to throw the election to the Democrats?"
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik … story.html
Will the last few remaining Trump fans ever realize this homely weird looking 72 year old megalomaniac could care less about them or their children as his justice department sues to cripple their healthcare? Who else but a bona fide corrupt TRAITOR bows at the feet of Vladimir Putin and Kim Jung Un ??
What do these creepy corrupt republicans expect when they ENRAGE the entire USA by threatening to SLASH Social Security and Medicare while giving the filthy rich trillions of our money? Does Mitch McConnell expect to be greeted with roses and candy ?? I don't think so, even the last remaining brain dead Trump fans understand a cut to their life line income stream called social security, which in many cases is the only critically important program that prevents them from a deep dive into poverty, is un-American, criminal and an abomination:
"MITCH MCCONNELL CONFRONTED BY ANGRY DINERS AT RESTAURANT OVER HIS PLANS TO SLASH SOCIAL SECURITY, HEALTHCARE"
https://www.newsweek.com/protesters-con … nt-1180129
CODE Red Emergency ******: MAJOR Major Stock Market CRASH Again DOWN 500 Points caused by republican Mitch McConnell's anxiousness to take an ax to your social security and medicare benefits which will absolutely happen if republicans maintain control of congress:
The check you collect monthly which keeps you from filing for bankruptcy or being pushed into poverty, the check you've earned from hard work is now believe it or not, in serious jeopardy from corrupt conservatives : TRASH Mitch McConnell's pension, DON'T let these elitists cut your life stream of income:
BTW: Bozo Trump said NOTHING when 'Granny' Mitch McConnell said he's coming after your retirement benefits which could only mean one thing, Bozo is complicit with the thought of taking away what you've earned:
".......Code Red Emergency*********......... "?
This stuff just gets funnier and funnier .
I realize you've probably never worked a day in the USA Ed Fisher or you would be as outraged at Mitch and his criminal republicans as everyone else is, but a retarded, abominable elderly man named "Granny" Mitch slashing social security and medicare while giving trillions of that money to elite filthy rich commies like weirdo Steve Mnuchin isn't really that funny or humorous at all:
He and spaced out Rand Paul both of whom are republican senators for one of the poorest states in the union, impoverished Kentucky, have been fleecing their constituents for years while living in the finest of neighborhoods themselves and they are trying desperately to pull the same dirty tricks on a national basis: Sorry, but that's simply UNACCEPTABLE here in the USA:
Republicans need to be crushed in NOV otherwise the Trump republican carnage against working Americans will continue in this crumbling country:
A protesting perspective: I don't know what else "Granny" McConnell, Ted Cruz and other criminal republicans could possibly expect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggLNJ55n8uE
Funny thing is Jake , I'm on SS pay and have only heard about an impending increase in my paycheck but Yea right .......I never worked a day in my life yet was able to retire earlier at 62 , which was a good thing as my body suffers the results of a life of hard labor of non union construction work.......... one day you might try that on for size.
Sorry Ed Fisher, but just like I don't believe a word serial liar Bozo Trump says, the same goes for you and yes, of course you're getting an increase in your social security benefits because the Dems have so far protected it for you and future generations but it won't be protected for long if the Cons maintain control of congress and rigor mortis Mitch McConnell has already pledged to take away that increase and more:
McConnell is an abominable senator from desperately impoverished Kentucky where people live in run down shacks if they're lucky , that should explain everything for you: How else did Kentucky become one of the poorest states in the union?
If you've really worked a day in the USA you'd be OUTRAGED at ALL republicans:
Well , now there is a true liberal , calling all the people of Kentucky what ............ ".desperately impoverished ....where people live in run down shacks if their lucky ...." You forgot the rest of your assumptions , shotgun toting , poor , pregnant , nine children , welfare , opioid addicted coal miners .........etc ?
Come on Jake , that's not nice ......typical but not nice.
You're being dishonest as usual Ed Fisher so you need to take those lies elsewhere:
The fact is, republicans rigor mortis McConnell and spaced out Rand Paul preside over one of the most impoverished states in this crumbling country called Kentucky and they both want to do for this nation as they did for their constituents, drive everyone into poverty while giving our money to their elite filthy rich donors:
Despite your lies, that's the truth and you know it:
You're not really going to support a republican which is the equivalent of forfeiting your social security and medicare just to get a cheap $2.00 "MAGA" hat are you?
Just remember "MAGA" really means gross "MAGGOT" trying to eat away at your hard earned retirement benefits and I'd strongly suggest that everyone get their parents, grand-parents and aunts and uncles out to the polls to vote DEMOCRATIC because if the unthinkable happens and republicans somehow maintain control of congress with the help of Satan, they have pledged to CUT social security and medicare just so filthy rich un-patriotic greedy pigs like Steve Mnuchin can keep the trillions 'stubby' Trump and Mitch McConnell just gave them in the form of a corporate welfare tax cut scam:
"Are Republicans seeking to ‘get rid of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security’?"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics … 9ecbc68cf7
Breaking BIG *******: Americans are OUTRAGED and Up In ARMS Against Bozo Trump, Mutt McConnell and the rest of the republican scamsters who are salivating to criminally SLASH your social security and medicare benefits if Satan wins and they maintain complete control of congress: Nothing more than domestic terrorism perpetrated by right wing republicans against the hard working people who are simply trying to survive in this once great crumbling rotting nation:
Americans demand a REPEAL of the republican corporate welfare tax cut scam that gave trillions to elite filthy rich corrupt little worms like weirdo creep Steve Mnuchin:
"As GOP Moves to Cut Medicare and Social Security, 60% of Americans Say Repeal Trump Tax Scam Instead"
"Working families shouldn't have to pay for the GOP tax bill. The rich and big corporations must pay their fair share of taxes!"
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/ … p-tax-scam
You don't like Fox News because of its conservative bias, yet you post information from a progressive nonsense site like common dreams.....wow.
Americans are outraged at the republican criminal scam to slash social security and medicare benefits as Bozo Trump gives trillions to elite filthy rich greedy pigs: If you've ever worked in the USA Hxprof you'd be outraged at Mutt McConnell and republicans as well for even considering this criminal act of slashing retirement benefits from even his constituents:
Republican "Mutt" McConnell and space dude Rand Paul both drove kentucky into the ground leaving it as one of the most impoverished states in the country, if republicans maintain control of congress they have already told the world they will continue doing the same on a national level:
This American is disgusted by the evil agenda of the radical left.
Just plain wrong again Hxprof because the left is trying to save our healthcare system and social security and medicare while Bozo Trump's justice department and republicans are suing to TERMINATE pre-existing conditions which tens of millions of Americans are suffering from, this would continue to drive up premiums for everyone:
If republicans maintain control of congress it's all over for our healthcare system while elite filthy rich pigs enjoy the trillion dollar gift Bozo Trump and republicans just gave them:
Americans are OUTRAGED at the republican attack on our health period:
You talk about preexisting conditions as though it were some kind of sacred cow - fact is there was NEVER such a requirement until Obummercare kicked in. Yes, many Republicans want to push that law back to what we had previously. Requiring insurance companies to cover preexisting conditions hurts them, and it also raises insurance premiums for current coverage.
And you act as though you can speak for all Americans.....weird.
After what has happened in this country most intelligent people have agreed to cut the name calling and mud slinging.
?? I hope you're right, but haven't seen any effect yet.
I doubt I'll get a positive response in this quarter, but figured I'd point it out anyway.
Personal responsibility PP. I'm not the president. Neither are you. Are you up to the challenge of being civil and putting cattiness to the back burner for the good of bringing our political discourse to a kinder and gentler level....or are you going to use the words of others as justification for continued division in your own area of influence?
I take full responsibility for everything I say and do. I call the president what he is. I don't lump "the left" and "the right" into meat little boxes like you and others here repeatedly do. The only person I ever call a name is President Trump. He is a documented liar, so that is accurate. He admits to grabbing women's pussies against their will, and that is disgusting. He admits to walking in on teenage girls in varying stages of undress, and that is disgusting. He uses the presidency to belittle his fellow Americans, and that is low. He labels the free press "the enemy of the people" and that is what authoritarian dictators do. The only name I use for him that is simply my opinion is POS. I stand by it and take full responsibility for it.
Like my sweet mom said, "sometimes you have to call a snake a snake."
This man is not worthy of America. I have said it from the beginning and I will keep saying it. If you think that is hate speech, but our own President labeling the media "the enemy of the people" is not, then you all have a serious problem understanding what history has demonstrated time and again.
You Trump apologists can continue to not believe your lying eyes, but don't expect the rest of us to join in.
I do apologize if when I use the term left or right that it offends you. It isn't meant to. And, the fact that you think I am talking about you and you get offended is, really, on you. If I say pretty panther then I will be directing my comments at you. Hope that helps.
As to Trump. You can call him a liar. He is, at times. Sometimes, he isn't lying. And he is called a liar anyway. I think that is wrong and unfair. You don't. I get that.
His comment on grabbing things was vulgar. You don't remember, but prior to the end of the primaries I stated I couldn't support the man, unless Hillary was the other part of the equation. I chose disgusting by your standards (and mine) over what I considered to be too dangerous an alternative to imagine. I can live with that.
Trump does belittle others. I find it abhorrent. He is not alone in insulting others. As a white woman who voted against Hillary I can say I have been belittled by quite a few more on the left, than just one person. I find that offensive also. Trump is not responsible for those insults.
You say Trump is not worthy of America. I say America is above being poor sports and finding every possible reason to deride him. We are above these insults. You want any to support your outrage? Don't be partisan when displaying it. Call it out all the way around.
I do. You just choose not to notice.
And I am not personally offended when you lay something at the feet of "the left." I just think it's poor form on your part and way more divisive than me or anyone else specifically criticising the president for specific things he says and does. Every single thing I mentioned is an accurate description of the man. Yet, you, Ed, and wilderness continually and repeatedly lump "the left" and "liberals" into negative stereotypes, often in wildly inaccurate ways. That is way more divisive, in my opinion.
That's because you fit well in with the radical left in your language used. Trump does it an you come unglued as he is "divisive": you do it and expect civil discourse from others because the same kind of crap isn't divisive when YOU do it. If the shoe fits, wear it; if you don't like the way it fits, stop the hate filled speech. "If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all." Or at a minimum, keep it civil.
"I don't think it is actually true" is far different from "LIAR!". One divides, one promotes discussion.
Lol, I'm not the one crying about civility on the forum threads. That is you and LtL. I'm expecting civility from POTUS, something that used to be a norm but has been shredded by the current "leader." I believe in free speech and as long as the TOS are being followed, you can say whatever you want on the forums. Calling a man who lies several times a day a " liar" is merely stating the truth. If you find that divisive, but don't bat an eye at the president calling the free press "the enemy of the people" then you are the one tolerating divisiveness and incivility that is way more harmful than my little "liar" word.
And I appreciate your opinion. The thing of it is that the left, being defined as the powers that be and the vocal SJW and Antifa (who use violence and bullying) are what I define as the left. In fairness, I define the right as the ones who are rabidly pro life, hypocritically Christian and people like Ed. Neither is representative of the majority of Americans. Perhaps our definitions are different? You call me right but I am not by my definition.
It's all in how you look at things. I disagree with wilderness on a lot, but I find his arguments reasonable and thought out. I don't have to agree with what he says at all times to chime in when I think he's made a valid point.
I will comment (and don't take offense, this is simply what has been my observation) that those who identify as left are less willing to draw lines in the sand as to what is and is not acceptable by any claiming to be left, or liberal. I don't see any calling out mobs and the associated violence that threatens to entail. I don't see anything but excuses when calls are made to act in ways that can easily devolve to violence. I don't see any outrage when women are demeaned for not goose stepping to their tune. I don't see any outrage when Democratic men are accused of harassment. I don't see any outrage when racist comments are leveled against people of color who are conservative.
I do get it, to some extent. I see the Democratic party as attempting to be some sort of umbrella organization with no agreed upon agenda. Simply an alternative to the right. I would think it would be very hard wanting to caucus with disparate groups, wanting to show solidarity even when you might not wholeheartedly agree with every detail of what they are hoping to achieve.
Edit. If you do call it out all the way around do me a favor. Go to the thread making fun of Trump's package size and call out Jake for bringing a child's name into his perverted thread.
We're talking about republican Mutt McConnell who drove his impoverished state of Kentucky into the dirt, Bozo Trump and republicans criminal intentions to CUT our social security and medicare if they somehow through the forces of Satan, maintain complete control of congress after the midterms: That's the topic of this discussion Live to Learn:
FYI giving trillions to filthy rich elite pigs which is what all republicans did, while trying to cut senior citizen's retirement benefits is nothing less than Pure EVIL:
By the way, ANTIFA is the equivalent of the allied forces in WW2, they repel Bozo Trump's neo-nazis of today and that's just a hardcore fact:
I get it Jake. You don't quite understand common decency, and civility; and the idea of measured and intelligent discourse is not within your ken.
No, you don't seem to understand Live to Learn, there is no civility when a clown impostor president and their republican weirdos are desperately trying to take away Americans retirement benefits: That won't stand because the country is furious with republicans:
Oh my, so much here. You only see what you want to see. Let me take just one of your long list of generalizing about "the left."
"I don't see any outrage when Democratic men are accused of harassment." Let's see. Al Franken is no longer a Senator. I called for his resignation when his behavior became known. On the other hand, Trump, a self-admitted sexual predator, is still President.
As for Jake and Trump's package size, Trump brought it up during a presidential debate, and that wasn't offensive enough to dissuade you from voting for him, but now you're concerned about a tongue-in-cheek forum thread making fun of a guy who bragged about his penis size on national TV. One of these behaviors is WAY more perverse and significant than the other, and it ain't the forum comedian.
I hear you loud and clear PP. Never mind. Been a pleasure talking to you.
No response to the fact that Franken is gone and Trump is still POTUS?
All righty then.
I don't recall you saying Franken should be gone. Why should I take your word for it?
Anyway, pedophilia and commenting on under age boys genitalia and harassing grown women are different. In my eyes. If you can't understand how wrong that is I have no interest in further dialogue.
Huh? Pedophilia? Are you confusing Franken with Roy Moore? Of course, Trump leering at underage girls....That might qualify.
So, after seeing references elsewhere it appears you are accusing Jake of pedophilia. Is that correct, or am I misunderstanding your comments?
I for one will continue to" .....lay the blame at the feet of the left ......" when I see that the left is where the blame belongs and as to the majority of political inspired violence THAT is where it lays !
You cannot ignore for years that it originates on the left and then when and if it rarely comes from the right, scream foul !
Ed Fisher: The topic of this discussion is NOT 'political violence' a title that Bozo Trump is surely the number one inciter of, this is a discussion about "Mutt" McConnell preparing another republican criminal assault on our social security and medicare benefits if republicans with Satan's assistance, manage to maintain control of congress:
If you've ever worked a fill time job in the USA you should be OUTRAGED at republicans mal intent to CUT workers benefits so they can give trillions to the filthy rich elites:
Americans DEMAND to preserve social security and medicare while demanding a REPEAL of Bozo Trump's and republicans criminal trillion dollar give away to the rich via their corporate welfare tax cut scam:
"As GOP Moves to Cut Medicare and Social Security, 60% of Americans Say Repeal Trump Tax Scam Instead"
"Working families shouldn't have to pay for the GOP tax bill. The rich and big corporations must pay their fair share of taxes!"
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/ … p-tax-scam
The "topic of this thread " will go where it may or may not depending of the posts and not be manipulated by someone who knows little about forums of any kind. Don't like it Jake , go elsewhere .
Sharlee ,It's okay , I'm not talking to Jake .
Why try reasoning with the unreasonable and ............well I won't say it ?
Americans are FURIOUS at Mr. Trump, republican Mitch "Mutt" McConnell and the rest of the cowardly republicans in congress who are as we speak, plotting behind closed doors to terminate your health insurance, severely limit your access to healthcare and or explode your premiums and deductibles and of course begin the process of SLASHING our social security and medicare benefits all in the name of giving the filthy rich trillions of our money: INSANE:
"As GOP Moves to Cut Medicare and Social Security, 60% of Americans Say Repeal Trump Tax Scam Instead"
"Working families shouldn't have to pay for the GOP tax bill. The rich and big corporations must pay their fair share of taxes!"
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/ … p-tax-scam
"As GOP Moves to Cut Medicare and Social Security, 60% of Americans Say Repeal Trump Tax Scam Instead"
"Working families shouldn't have to pay for the GOP tax bill. The rich and big corporations must pay their fair share of taxes!"
BRIGHT Beacon of Democratic LIGHT ******: Breaking BIG: Dems to CANCEL Republican Corporate Welfare Tax Cut Scam and Give Teachers a Pay RAISE:
"Democrats propose funding teacher pay raises by canceling tax cuts for the wealthy"
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/d … he-wealthy
Too long of an explanation to explain why the Dems can't get rid of Trump's tax cuts... Republicans run the Senate... Hint the house needs 2/3 of the Senate to vote it out... And even after all that Trump can veto it. Just a bit of factual info Jake. And bye the bye, Teachers raises are controlled by ones state unless it's a private school.
There are serious flaws in your assessment Sharlee01, but that's fine, now we have a "PEOPLES Congress" which will begin the impeachment process but before that commences, I'm confident the Dems will begin sending the senate bills which CANCEL "Stubby" Trump's / republicans insane Corporate Welfare Tax Cut Scam that transfers trillions to the filthy rich while exploding our national debt, and replacing that that with a law which will produce a higher minimum wage for WORKING Americans who actually NEED the money:
Then we'll see the republican senate vote that down in front of the USA for ALL to see:
How do you "transfer money" from a person to themselves?
Ask republicans and "Stubby" Trump: Just a few short months ago they transferred a couple trillion of our money from the people to the filthy rich:
Now it's time to recoup that money by CANCELLING that insane, inhumane Corporate Welfare Scam and re-direct the funds to finance a higher minimum wage for those Americans who truly need it, like ALL workers:
"With House control, Dems must now fight for working-class Americans"
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/415 … ddle-class
Jake do you at all know anything about our economy as of late? The only one that made a name for transferring loads of cash was Obama. You remember the billions of cash he flew into Iran in the dead of night...LOL
That's ridiculous Sharlee01 and besides, I think America has been long past bored with the old stale false comparisons between "Stubby" Trump and President Obama and President Hillary:
Here's the real question, WHY on Earth should a crusty old republican senator like republican Mitch McConnell be allowed to continue with his majority leadership role in the U.S. Senate while he bankrupts his own state of Kentucky which is now the 5th poorest state in the union while driving his constituents by the thousands into poverty?
Now he, Bozo Trump and republicans are driving the entire country into the dirt with their Corporate Welfare Tax Cut Scam that simply made the rich richer and the poor poorer while adding at least a trillion dollars to our national debt already: And guess how they planned to pay for this massive gift to the filthy rich? Yup, buy slashing our social security and medicare but thank God the Dems washed the house of representatives with a cool blue wave of righteousness which can now work to HALT McConnell and Bozo's plan to drive millions of our senior citizens into poverty, just like he did Kentucky:
If you've ever worked a full time job in the USA be thankful the Dems prevailed in the house because now they can work to STOP the republican madness of transferring our wealth to their already filthy rich Wall Street pals:
"Here's the real question, WHY on Earth should a crusty old republican senator like republican Mitch McConnell be allowed to continue with his majority leadership role in the U.S. Senate while he bankrupts his own state of Kentucky which is now the 5th poorest state in the union while driving his constituents by the thousands into poverty"
I guess the same reason Ruth Bader Ginsburg 87, Dianne Feinstein 85, John Dingel 87, and let's not forget Nancy Pelosi 78...
Jake Mitchell McConnell is a baby to this bunch... 76.
It was Obama that put the final nail into SS with his Obamacare. Just a fact no one on the left seems to want to absorb. He sunk the country with his debt accumulation.
"That's ridiculous Sharlee01 and besides, I think America has been long past bored with the old stale false comparisons between "Stubby" Trump and President Obama and President Hillary:"
I agree there is certainly no comparison. President Trump is fixing problems, not creating them. I know this is hard to comprehend but just factual.
* 1 Trillion Dollar National Debt caused by Bozo Trum's / republicans insane Corporate Welfare Tax Cuts to the filthy rich:
* Greatest and Third Greatest Dow Jones Point Crashes in History
* Farmers going Bankrupt and Companies going Bankrupt because of Bozo Trump's insane trade war tariffs
* Massive tax Increases on ALL Americans due to Bozo trump's insane Trade War Tariffs
* Gas and Oil prices SKYROCKETING under Bozo Trump
* Global respect of the USA at Historical LOWS
* Nuclear War Brinksmanship
* Bozo Trump Appeasing our enemies including Vladimir Putin
* Mass Shootings at a Record HIGH under Bozo Trump
* Divisiveness, racism, nazi appeasing, nazis in our white house, misogyny, ineptitude, retardation, UNPRECEDENTED White House Corruption etc etc
Yeah, "MAGA" all right: I always said it sounded like "MAGGOT"
"* 1 Trillion Dollar National Debt caused by Bozo Trum's / republicans insane Corporate Welfare Tax Cuts to the filthy rich:"
If Trump averaged 1 trillion every two years that would possibly mean he would create half of what Obama created. Not sure why we are not just waiting for the end of his time in office to see what he does with the budget. he may start paying us back some of what Obama took from our SS funds... LOL
"* Greatest and Third Greatest Dow Jones Point Crashes in History" This statement is silly.. He broke all-time records for market highs month after month and would have a long way to fall to lose his gains. Just a fact
"Farmers going Bankrupt and Companies going Bankrupt because of Bozo Trump's insane trade war tariffs? need resources, Jake. Not sure where you got this spoiled feed? The election just proved farmers love Trump.
Massive tax Increases on ALL Americans due to Bozo trump's insane Trade War Tariffs" Ths one is just all kinds of crazy... Most will see increases cash this year in tax returns. As well as SS just announced raises. Cost-of-Living Adjustment (COLA) Information for 2018. Monthly Social Security and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits for more than 66 million Americans will increase Check out this Government link for the resource.
https://www.ssa.gov/cola/
Tariffs have our country's economy worth 11.3 trillion more... They are so far bringing in more cash than we have seen in many years.
" Gas and Oil prices SKYROCKETING under Bozo Trump" Just the opposite. Oil is at good lows...
"Global respect of the USA at Historical LOWS> There is absolutely no proof of this. The president appears to have opened up many doors that were closed to us. And certainly has no problem with communicating with even our worst enemies.
" Nuclear War Brinksmanship" Not sure where you dug this up. We are at the brink of seeing NK denuclearize. They certainly have stopped testing under Trump.
"Bozo Trump Appeasing our enemies including Vladimir Putin" Trump has the strongest sanctions on Russia than they have seen in many years. LOL This is a fact not sure how you come up with such dribble?
"* Mass Shootings at a Record HIGH under Bozo Trump" I suggest you research this before making such a comment. It's laughable.
"Divisiveness, racism, nazi appeasing, nazis in our white house, misogyny, ineptitude, retardation, UNPRECEDENTED White House Corruption etc etc" All kind of crazy here... OMG
You clearly are overdosing on the feed from CNN. How silly Jake. Bah Bah
Jake, do you ever tire from hiding from facts?
I'm not sure where you get your info from Sharlee01 but everything I listed, all the Trump insanity and incompetence is absolutely TRUE and can be backed up by documentation: The USA is in total collapse mode because of Bozo Trump and his crazy megalomania: We also have an inept, crooked senate majority leader who is just craving to slash our social security and medicare benefits forcing millions of senior citizens into poverty and homeless situations: DEMS will do their level best to STOP his abominable plans:
One silver lining though, Nancy Pelosi and the Powerful Dems swept control of the house AWAY from republicans along with several Governorships which they flipped and immediately, the Dow Jones Rallied 500 to 600 points:
Here's what Bozo Trump's insane trade war tariffs hikes are doing to once profitable American Companies:
"Texas companies paid $654M more in tariffs this summer than the last amid Trump's trade war"
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/tra … -trade-war
Jake, it's much too soon to judge how Trump's tariffs will benefit or hurt the country. Plus this is a very complicated subject to place "if comes" on... The market went up on the day after the elections due to Trump keeping the Senate. If there would have been a blue wave we would all be crying. My goodness, Jake, you know very little about the market. Very complicated business... Again Jake check out the link we on SS saw raises. This is just a fact. Trump has claimed he will not let SS be affected. as Obama did... Trump is not the president that created problems with SS he just may help save it though.
I repeat: how do you transfer one's money to themselves? Is that what you do when you have taken it and wish to give it back to the real owner?
You still appear to think that what others have built and earned belongs to you. It doesn't.
Once again it will take 2/3 of the Senate to impeach. Jake just because you actually put in in writing just does not make it true... I provide clear facts, all you need to do is read them... Oh, and A peoples congress would be one that works for the people to solve problems, not create imaginary problems. Jake, the Republicans have the Senate, they are pretty much final say bud... They are nothing but obstructionist that won't cooperate with Trump but will get nothing done due to the Senate and Trump.
Not sure what you're talking about? " replacing that that with a law which will produce a higher minimum wage for WORKING Americans who actually NEED the money:"
Just last Friday a wage increase was announced, which far surpassed minimum wage. Jake, do you ever watch any other media than CNN? You are very poorly informed. Just like your past comment on Trump losing to Stormy? She lost and has to pay Trump's legal fees...
If Trump's approval rating drops below 30% after the economy tanks, the Republican Senate will impeach. They want Pence in the Oval Office.
Interesting concept promisem, but don't forget "Squinty" Fake Christian Mike Pence was "Stubby" Trump's "Campaign Transition Chief" which presumably means he knows much about and or was involved in what Bob Mueller is now investigating:
I'd be surprised if Pence escapes the wrath of God:
That's a lot of "if come I would say. LOL It could happen, but will it? I would think the outcome of this weeks election should stand to prove president Trump is holding not only his base but gaining support. Hard to believe polls any more. Te election speaks a bit louder.
Please point out "flaws". It is harder to do than deflect, concentrate... I am very interested to see why you find my factual statement flawed?
Breaking HUGE *******: Trump / Russian Republicans Represent an Abominable Impending Threat to your Retirement Benefits **** Medicare & Social Security: We who could read Mr. Trump and his Russian Republicans like a proverbial book predicted this assault on your health-care months and years ago, constantly sabotaging our traditional health-care system and NOW the full assault is in 1st gear with over a TRILLION in CUTS noted in Trump's unlawful, unholy budget: UNREAL & Unacceptable:
"TRUMP'S 2019 BUDGET PROPOSAL IS DANGEROUS—AND RIGHT IN LINE WITH REPUBLICAN VALUES"
"When it comes to corruption, lies, ignorance, anti-Semitism, and other forms of bigotry, Donald Trump has outdone many of his GOP predecessors. But when it comes to attacking the programs that help the most vulnerable Americans, Trump is right in step with his predecessors and his party."
https://psmag.com/ideas/trumps-2019-bud … an-reasons
Clowny McTrump needs to be REMOVED by Congress and or the LAW ASAP to end this Abhorrent Grisly NIGHTMARE of a quasi-dictatorship: He's WEAK, Dumb, Moronic, Cowardly, Morbidly Obese, Yellow and according to many top notch mental health experts, Psychologically Unsound and bizarre looking to boot:
In what alternate universe is this tolerated by the people? Trump insane budget SLASHING Social Security & Medicare which will result in nothing less than a Human Holocaust while FEEDING the Filthy Rich? That might fly in Communist Russia, but NOT here in this USA:
"Trump’s budget would eviscerate the social safety net but provide welfare for the rich"
https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzi … story.html
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