Regions across the country are already “BANNING” these controversial hats which represent Donald Trump: Should they be banned nationwide primarily due to what they represent and the documented incitement of extremely uncomfortable and often aggressive illegal physical and verbal conflict they seem to ignite?
They serve the same purpose as swastika armbands.
Inflammatory and fascist, but protected as freedom of expression by the Constitution.
So if I reply with those offended by support for a candidate are communist sympathizers who would put everyone they disagree with in gulags, if they could...does that sound as foolish to you as your comment sounds to me?
I am reading an in-depth book about the rise of Nazism. The parallels to what is happening in this country are remarkable.
The thought about the purpose of the hats came to me weeks ago. So my posting wasn't impulsive.
The fact that my post sounds foolish to you doesn't change my belief that Trump is using a wide variety of tactics that are common to authoritarian politics throughout history.
A symbol that people wear, whether it's a hat or armband, serves a divisive and inflammatory purpose.
How do the hats compare in "divisive and inflammatory purpose" vs a House full of white dresses? Is there a similarity or were the dresses totally different (in some way other than where they were worn on the body)?
What about pink armbands with a crossed ribbon? The fish symbol on bumper stickers? Rainbow colors worn on clothing? Are they all "divisive and inflammatory" or is that limited to supporters of President Trump, making their commitment to the group known?
lol, I'm not going to speak for promisem, but how on EARTH could you possibly try to confusingly conflate all of those harmless symbols with a "MAGA" hat that infuses an image of this ??
He's actually wearing a "MAGA" hat when he said this: Then you wonder WHY Americans don't want this symbol anywhere near them??
Thanks promisem, I don't see how anyone could try to compare pink armbands with a MAGA hat but oh well:
And to tell you the truth, if I were an establishment owner I'm pretty sure I wouldn't serve a "MAGA Hatter" even if he removed the cap, they just give me the heebie jeebies:
Serves that purpose in your mind. Not necessarily in the mind the hat sits over. You can't expect others to bow to overreaching and foolish demands or overly delicate sensibilities.
The purpose is not what is in my "mind". It is the barrage of "radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism" that I constantly see and hear from Trump and his supporters.
They attach the fascist meaning to the hats. Not me.
"It is the barrage of "radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism" that I constantly see and hear from Trump and his supporters."
So you're hearing these things from all Trump supporters, or only from a number of them?
Prosisem, I'm going to have to call you on this one.
I grew up in a home with relatives who escaped life under dictator Joseph Stalin. Trust me, you have NO idea what you are talking about. I'll put it to you this way, the mere fact that you can put the statements that you and others have made about president Donald Trump and continue to do so without any worry of repercussion from the government is proof of how little you know about fascism.
"radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism" that I constantly see and hear from Trump and his supporters."
Sounds good, like a good imagination. Do you write fiction novels? If not, you should.
In response to your insult in the final paragraph (which was unprovoked as usual), I have to say you learned nothing about fascism from your relatives.
Or maybe you didn't know them very well.
True promisem, and Donald Trump FAILED to segregate and delineate the difference between his angry fascist neo-nazi alt righters and those who stood strongly against them in Charlottesville when that young woman was taken from this Earth by a crazy extreme right winger, saying in utter disgrace and horror and I paraphrase, "There are fine people on BOTH sides": An insane racist comment for which I believe GOD will surely make him regret:
And the last remaining Trump followers want society to respect a "MAGA" hat? They can't be serious:
No, sorry, my relatives fought mightily in the 1940's to STOMP Out Trump's white supremacist nationalist pals that are now popping Up everywhere like toadstools because they probably feel safer with him in OUR oval office and that is just how mad this collapsing country has become:
I think there is some truth in what promisem is saying. But we have freedom of expression, and that is an important right to have.
I agree that Trump is divisive and see that with many of his supporters. In a local high school in NJ, the kids are wearing Confederate flags and headbands, and happily calling themselves "rednecks." A friend's son came to do some yard work for me, and was telling me about this. He works, wants to go on to college, and doesn't want to be around classmates who want to embrace hatred and lack of education, his words.
He says none of these kids have any ambition, and are using some of what Trump says as an excuse to ridicule others and be negative about learning. There is a message in those hats, even Kanye figured that out, and he's not the most balanced person around.
"In a local high school in NJ, the kids are wearing Confederate flags and headbands, and happily calling themselves "rednecks." A friend's son came to do some yard work for me, and was telling me about this. He works, wants to go on to college, and doesn't want to be around classmates who want to embrace hatred and lack of education, his words.
He says none of these kids have any ambition, and are using some of what Trump says as an excuse to ridicule others and be negative about learning."
This IS disturbing.
It really is Kathryn. Not to get off topic, but when my son was going to college, it was all material I learned in AP classes in HS. Our educational system is really spiraling downward.
Sadly, Yes. I hear the tech leaders send their kids to Waldorf schools.
Meanwhile, we should get back to discussing hats.
Magenta hats with peace signs. What color should the peace signs be? Black, white or rainbow colored?
I like rainbow colored, but that may be too busy with magenta.
Kathryn, it's not about the COLOR of a "MAGA" or "KAGA" hat it's about what it symbolizes: In this example a "MAGA" hat represents a pathetic yellow belly incoherent fool who who doesn't respect our great american war heroes and likes people who weren't captured: Imagine that, a cowardly yellow belly 72 year old sickly person who claims to be a president sitting in our oval office who likes people who weren't captured:
I watched another great american war hero Bob Kerrey the other night on nationwide television ask for Donald's X-Rays for his bone spurs, according to medical experts if he had bone spurs decades ago he should still have them now and x-rays should be available to prove his claim: We'll probably see those about the same time he voluntarily releases his tax returns
He is not required by law to prove either.
I've actually grown sick of people glorifying war. What Trump said was ignorant but the truth of the matter is, what makes someone who was willing to carry a weapon, in a questionable conflict, heroic? We don't idolize people who randomly carry guns.
I realize this is a carry over from the way we rightfully felt about soldiers in the World Wars and Kerry was part of the sad moment in our history where we forced young men to do battle for dubious reasons, but hero?
There is nothing heroic about killing people. All wars during my lifetime appear to be more about lies being told, guys being duped and the general public being bullied into saying 'Go team' or being labeled unpatriotic for not goose stepping the government line.
The term 'war hero' is bandied about too often and given more weight than it deserves in general conversation. Wars are unfortunate and should not be glorified on any level.
The idea that this is even a discussion of debate shows that people have moved so far past the founding documents of the US. Let's just say for the sake of argument that MAGA hats represent white supremacy, so what? Freedom is rooted in the idea that people can express things people disagree with. If we only protect speech that we agree with then we aren't truly free.
Let me make this point as clear, concise and simple as I possibly can: In REALITY, a "MAGA" hat represents its creator, a 72 year old man who according to press reports, was and perhaps STILL is under intense surveillance by our Law Enforcement Agencies the FBI because apparently they had and perhaps still have, reason to believe he might be working on behalf of Russia: Do I really need to repeat that? Well, believe it or not, it's the truth as ASTOUNDING as it seems:
And you want me to serve a pate of ribs to a person wearing one of these controversial hats? Not in a million years if I owned a restaurant:
"F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia"
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/us/p … quiry.html
By the way, just a suggestion, if you're interested in proclaiming "White Supremacy" instead of wearing a "MAGA" hat to do it, why not think about relocating to a country that's ALL white if you can find one? The USA is a beautiful rainbow of immigrants from Ireland, Italy, Germany, Mexico, Japan, Chile, Africa etc etc etc: No more white majority and that's just a fact:
LOL. As the facts emerge, your assumptions are looking increasingly like conspiracy theories played out at levels that should have had the wherewithal and the resources to have known better.
Besides that, a slogan can mushroom into other reasons. Look up the beginning of the term ok. How in the worlddid we go from point a to b on that?
Oh really? Well here's one act of what many experts call "Treachery & Treason" in broad daylight, I can just imagine what the FBI and CIA have uncovered in secret: And I don't see you taking issue with StevenHalls comment about a "MAGA" hat symbolizing "White Supremacy" and he says "So what's the big deal"?
Maybe he and perhaps even you, don't understand that those who practice the insecurity and weakness of "White Supremacy" hatred are unwelcome and unacceptable here in the USA:
His OWN words in front of the world:
Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, why would Trump back out of this if he's a puppet of Putin. We also all know Trump, he can't keep his mouth shut. Any sort of secret he has will come out so wouldn't we have some evidence of him saying exactly that he's influenced by Putin? Also, it's quite humorous that you're implying I am a white supremacist and I should "relocate to a country that's all white" when I'm probably the most Hispanic/Non-white person in this discussion.
Jake labels anyone that does not agree with his opinion. As as a rule, the label is very insulting. He appears to believe his opinion is the "last word". It's futile to try to correct him with facts. Steven, it's a one way street to nowhere...
Everyone knows I post fact based sources and anyone can just go back if they're interested and read my comments to verify that truth, and here's another example of disgust for the "MAGA" hatters to deal with:
What kind of "Yellow Belly" attacks a deceased "TWO-Time Great American Hero like John McCain who served Bravely and Courageously in Vietnam for the USA and who Saved our Health-Care System from Russian Republicans in Congress who are STILL Hell Bent on SABOTAGING it?
I guess here's the answer: Seriously, here in the REAL World, what kind of a person OBSESSES and Stews over a Great American Hero and then lashes out at him in an Anger and Hate filled diatribe after the man has gone to heaven?
"Trump’s obsession with McCain ought to make Americans very nervous"
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/readers … story.html
Liberals like to ban things they don't agree with. Luckily we have this thing called the Constitution. I highly recommend you read it. (Spoiler alert) It says we get to wear or say whatever the hell we want.
I'm pretty familiar with our constitution and it's perfectly legal to remove a person from your establishment for wearing a controversial hat, but I'd highly recommend this elderly person should read it:
"our constitution" should be Our US Constitution.
Maybe you behave perfectly and are solid in word and deed.
Maybe Trump can be a little too free, literal and honest in speech. Maybe he is learning how to behave as he goes along in this new role (for him) of POTUS!
Maybe he needs to learn to reign it in, but he understands freedom for a nation and freedom for the CITIZENS who live there ...
more than you do.
Yes, I suppose a business owner can ask anyone to leave their place of business for any reason. Although it certainly would be illegal to knock a hat of any kind off of someone's head as some liberals have done. It's call result... Jake the constitution has no mention of a business owner asking someone to leave their place of business... Just wondering where you came up with such a bazaar thought?
While I'm definitely not a fan of bashing a dead senator and war hero the idea that every Republican is bought up by the Russians is really crossing the line to conspiracy. Is Hillary also bought by the Russians since she sold a good chunk of our uranium to them? Is Obama bought by the Russians when he allowed them to invade Ukraine? It seems your personal bias is plaguing your opinion on the matter.
Your uranium claim about Hillary has been proven false so many times and so many ways by such a wide variety of sources that I'm shocked anyone still believes it.
Shame on both of you for promoting such false and divisive propaganda.
If you want to hate Clinton and Obama, find an ethical way to do it.
I know it has been said to be false. Not certain it has been proven to be false. Testimony on the Hill and recently released emails of Clinton's, previously not reviewed, kind of paint a bad picture which supports the allegations.
Just saying. If one side wants to find Trump guilty prior to any hard evidence being available it isn't a stretch to give the same leeway to the other side.
If Trump is innocent until proven guilty of any crime, which I have stated before on here, then so is Hillary. (Trump's character is a separate subject.)
Otherwise, I believe her innocence of a crime is easy to prove.
1. Hillary was one of 9 votes including the secretaries of the treasury, state, defense, homeland security, commerce and energy; the attorney general; and two White House reps.
2. The Foreign Investments Committee can only approve a deal and not stop it.
3. Multiple other agencies with which she had no involvement had to approve the deal.
As long as you agree that people we like and people we hate should be given the same consideration we are sympatico.
https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fac … anium-rus/
While she wasn't the deciding vote she was in charge of approving that move. I don't hate Clinton, in fact, I agree with her when it comes to what she said about Europe needing to get their act together, I also agree with Obama when he says you don't have to be cool by having a hundred girls twerking on you to be cool.
She was not in charge of approving it. She was one of 9 votes on a committee that could only approve it and not reject it.
Likewise, other agencies had to approve it.
Finally, if she was guilty of stealing our uranium, the Republican House, Republican Senate and Republican White House in 2017 and 2018 would have had her in jail by now.
Lord knows they keep trying.
Of course, now we get his opinion in conjunction with his opinion of God's opinion.
The religion of the left. Based on belief, not facts. It's getting very dogmatic from that side.
So now Live to Learn, your just resorting to the same unresponsive ploy as your idol Donald Trump, just saying a group of words which have no real meaning? I already posted the FACTS to go along with my comment and the choice is yours to accept said facts, but let's not reply with a group of irrelevant words of falsehood about my truthful statements: SORRY, but it doesn't work for Donald and it doesn't work for you either:
And by the way, I'm quite confident here in the REAL World, GOD frowns upon angry, yellow belly hate filled 72 year olds who attack deceased Great American Heroes, and I'm also confident GOD frowns upon the same 72 year old who apparently used donation money that should have helped children, for personal gain as allegations claim:
BOTH are ABOMINATIONS in the REAL World and someday Donald will indeed report to said GOD and I'll bet it ain't gonna' be pretty for him or his last few remaining followers:
"Trump Foundation Will Dissolve, Accused of ‘Shocking Pattern of Illegality’"
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/nyre … ation.html
I don´'t think you should ban it. Although the hat has the same function as the swastika armband or a Real Madrid shawl or wearing a cross neckless. It tells people, I'm part of the gang.
I do not support these club memberships and especially when it is connected with a political party you wade in dangerous waters.
Although you could compare it with Nike or Adidas T-shirts with logo, it's not the same. Political parties who use clothing as an uniform and identification, and the hat can be seen in this light, are thinking in a militant way. Especially if the clothing contains a flag or a nationalist symbol. In this case the hat is nationalistic and I can imagine why it is forbidden in some states.
In Europe these hats would be unthinkable and you would be branded as a fascist. But Europe has a different experience and memory of fascism then the USA..
Or to quote Primo Levi : Every age has its own fascism. There are many ways of reaching this point, and not just through the terror of police intimidation, but by denying and distorting information, by undermining systems of justice, by paralyzing the education system, and by spreading in a myriad subtle ways nostalgia for a world where order reigned.
You lack actual historical context for everything you mentioned. To associated those this with a MAGA hat show an inability to be objective and know the true history of the swastika, Madrid armband. Then you further destroy your argument by associating these things with wearing a cross.
There is a difference between politics and religion. I imagine you believe that Jewish people wearing a Yamaka is to tell other people they are not part of the club. I'm sure you believe that when a Sikh has their hair wrapped, it is the same thing.
It's okay to be proud of your religion and identify with it in public. It is what happens in civilized societies.
What you and others who have an issue with MAGA hat fail to comprehend is it is a symbol of pride our country. It is a hat worn by people of all races, religions and even sexual orientations. You see, having pride in your country is done by people of all walks of life.
When people have a problem with others wearing a MAGA hat, may THEY are the ones who should be wearing a swastika. After all, it is the Nazi's who burned books and eliminated free speech.
Sort of like what those against a MAGA hat are trying to do and like the Nazis...they won't succeed.
Mmm, Readmikenow.. I had to read you first paragraph a couple of times, and I'm still a bit puzzled.
You should read my text more carefully because you accuse me of things I've not said.
You imagine wrong to think that I would think "that Jewish people wearing a Yamaka is to tell other people they are not part of the club." - I said, wearing such symbols is showing that you are part of the club, not that NOT wearing them means you are not part of the club. Don't twist words with false logic.
The MAGA hat is not just a symbol of pride of your country. It is political. Only Trump supporters wear them. People with different political preferences can be proud on their country too. But they will not wear this hat. Trump has with this hat appropriated Nationalism.
To comparing book burning nazi's and people who have a problem with the MAGA hat is far to simplistic. I accept better from you.
As I said : I don´'t think you should ban it but I do not support these club memberships and especially when nationalistic clothing is connected with a political party you wade in dangerous waters.
For eight years I saw "Hope and Change" hats, T-Shirts and more everywhere. I did not like Obama. I do not think he was a good president. That is a separate issue. I also did not feel a need to call those who wore a "Hope and Change" had a communist or socialist. I did not say that hat represents the oppression, such as Stalin, Castro and other bestowed on their citizens.
No, I accepted their choice and their belief because I believe in free speech. I felt they had a right to like their president and support him.
Now the shoe is on the other foot.
Liberals have shown themselves to be ignorant, intolerant of free speech, the views of others and worse. They have been violent to any person of any color, race or religion who expresses their free speech rights and wears a hat to support their president.
They also lack basic knowledge of history.
This one despicable incident alone is grounds for IMMEDIATE Impeachment of this elderly person:
Just FYI readmikenow: "Hope & Change" is the EXACT opposite of "MAGA",: "Hope & Change" gave us the Greatest Economic Recovery in HISTORY, it gave us the ACA Obama-Care which now covers tens of MILLIONS MORE American families including children with vitally important Health-Care, it gave us stronger gay rights, it gave us STRONGER Environmental Protections, the world respected us and our REAL Leader President Obama who respected law enforcement and our intelligence agencies, and we had a prosperous, relatively peaceful nation which could go to sleep at night knowing OUR Great Nation was in GOOD, Competent hands:
ALL of that is either GONE, lying in a PILE of in Rubble or THREATENED now by what ivy league experts determined to be a mentally unsound 72 year old "MAGA" hatter illegitimate president and his Communist Russian Republican Congress-persons who seem to find much joy in invoking mass havoc and unnecessary dangerous crisis and chaos on the USA and her people by SABOTAGING our Health-Care System, THREATENING Massive CUTS to Social Security and Medicare and DESTROYING our Once Tight NATO Allies just like Vladimir Putin is desperately trying to WEAKEN Europe with his "Brexit Scheme", all of which are ABOMINATIONS, ABNORMALLY Insane & Unacceptable by th masses and it must end soon from either indictment or impeachment for the very survival of the USA:
I hope to hear from someone on the other side who has the ability to provide an intelligent, coherent and objective response. So far, that is a very rare find on the left.
I just gave you the FACTS readmikenow, and a startling comparison between "Hope & Change" which represents a Progressive Democratic Congress working to achieve great things for ALL Americans including Health-Care for ALL and Protection of Social Security and medicare, and a "MAGA" hat which represents a 72 year old narcissistic elderly man hell bent on SLASHING Social Security and Medicare, Decimating our Health-CARE System and Degrading our Military and Law Enforcement:
It's your choice as always to believe the TRUTH, or some self absorbed, dark, weird looking cult leader perched in our oval office who could care less about you or your family:
I would not buy a hope and change hat either, I don't like clubs..
But I think there is a difference in a Hope and Change slogan compared with a Make America Great Again slogan.
The first one is more neutral and can refer to many things. Although one thing that comes to mind is A change is gonna come, the song by Sam Cook. And thus can refer to the roles of blacks in the society.
The second one refers to America that has had a bad time and is ill it must be cured and made better. It is connected with America First. And in this respect connects to Nationalism.
And I do not consider cultivated Nationalism by any political party as a good thing.
This is my interpretation, but I do not think I'm far of.
P.S. I would avoid generalizations and call all Liberals ignorant and lacking knowledge of history. but I agree, that education and knowledge of history could be better by many people on both sides.
Your attachment is actually funny. I suppose the blah blah blah represents sharing ignorant beliefs that a hat represents anything other than a hat.
" Should they be banned nationwide primarily due to what they represent and the documented incitement of extremely uncomfortable and often aggressive illegal physical and verbal conflict they seem to ignite?"
Which regions have banned MAGA hats Jake? I couldn't find any news about them.
Use "Online SEARCH" GA, this symbol is being banned all over the country to avoid and mitigate confrontation and to dissuade individuals from intentionally or inadvertently inciting incidents:
Controversy, Incitement of Conflict Verbal & Physical, Unnecessary Disruption & Distraction, Illegal Aggressive Activity:
Regardless of the circumstances, there will ALWAYS be a few protesters:
"Parents, students protest after high school bans MAGA hats, banners on 'USA Day'"
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 … ga-hats-b/
I did do an online search Jake, a pretty broad one: "MAGA hats banned."
All I could find was the school you just mentioned, a California restaurant that quickly rescinded its ban, and a Chicago arcade bar that also banned facial tattoos. That was all I could find. No "regions" at all.
That's why I asked bud. You said "regions," I just wanted to find out what you were talking about. Now it seems you didn't mean regions at all - just a couple individual establishments. Was your claim just hyperbole to express an opinion?
Not bad GA, keep "SEARCHIN'"
I think my search answered my question Jake, and your response confirmed it. No need for more "SEARCHIN, "
After my first response, I did go back for a second look Jake.
Your repeated assertion that your posts are supported by "facts" demanded I be sure of my "facts."
Once again, I could only find three "ESTABLISHMENTS" pertaining to the MAGA hat controversy.
Come on Jake, don't leave me dangling. Show me where I can find your facts about the "regions" that banned the MAGA hats.
"Controversy, Incitement of Conflict Verbal & Physical, Unnecessary Disruption & Distraction, Illegal Aggressive Activity" - this sounds like the behavior of the far left just before and immediately after the Kavanaugh vote in the US Senate, and there were no MAGA hats involved.
Too bad "some Regions across the country" would ban attitude glasses many seem to be wearing. They irritate me... Although. I understand some wanting to put on a pair of glasses due to thinking it gives them a well-educated look. Guess to sum it up, It's really not my place to tell anyone what to wear, and it certainly ridiculous for any hat to be ban. If it comes down to hats that maybe should be ban. How about the ridiculous pink knit hat some women have chosen to wear.
Plus when you state Regions. - A SF Bay Area restaurant. Too bad the Bay area would not ban using "anywhere" to urinate or defecate. Now that could make the Bay area great again... Where else has the Make America Great Again hat been ban? Such a vile sentiment. OMG Jake, do you ever think before you compose a subject? Ever?
Sharlee01 everyone around here knows I always think before I compose a subject, and I thought about this despicable unholy act for which Mr. Trump will serve much time in the white hot pit:
believe it or not, the very same pathetic 72 year old who will soon be imprisoned if our laws prevail, actually instructed his followers to vote for this sad sack for U.S. senate, an alleged child molester: That's no bad joke, he actually advocated votes for this disgusting creepy weasel : Who in their right mind does an evil thing like that ???? A putrid "MAGA hatter" like Donald that's who and when he's slammed in prison, I hope he understands the other inmates despise this kind of abominable unforgivable crime, Big Bubba considers fiddling with children as the very worst crime there is:
Thought we were discussing ones right to wear a hat? be it a mega hat or a silly knit pink hat... Why not stay on subject. And your post still lacks any form of resource on the subject.
Actually Sharlee01, we're talking about the right to BAN a "MAGA" hat which represents and is a symbol of a 72 year old Racist, Communist Russian Sympathizer who shows every indication of trying desperately to dismantle our NATO Partners from the inside thereby weakening our military might, and believe it or NOT, endorsed an alleged child molester imploring gullible little sheep to vote for him:
So now, what does a "MAGA" hat symbolize ??
Just in case anyone missed it, it really happened and I believe Bozo Trump will serve many years in the scorching ABYSS for his abominable endorsement, just one sentence of many to come: WHO in their right skull would EVER ENDORSE an alleged Chile Molester !!!!: One idiot did INSANITY:
Talking about endorsements.
I heard David Duke is backing Ilhan Omar. Makes perfect sense. The philosophies of the two certainly seem sympatico.
I really don't know where you get your info Live to Learn, maybe Fox Propaganda Channel or Rush Limpy or whomever, but it's factually incorrect because David Duke and his white nationalist KKK are rabid supporters of Bozo Trump for very good reasons and that's just a proven fact and the internet is jam packed with evidence to prove it:
I'm still surprised Ivanika allows Donald to go out in public looking like the mess he looks like and someone needs to tell him to keep his little hands at his side when he speaks because when he waves them around like a weirdo, it draws attention to how under sized and small they appear:
Hey, get those "MAGA" hats out and slap em' on your heads folks because that's sure what David Duke wants to see: Nobody should be surprised when Americans choose to BAN these hats because here's just one more incendiary thing they represent and it's nothing less than insane that we are forced to endure a dark, nightmare of an era where this sentiment has penetrated our oval office:
Your original statement "Regions across the country are already “BANNING” these controversial hats which represent Donald Trump: Should they be banned nationwide primarily due to what they represent and the documented incitement of extremely uncomfortable and often aggressive illegal physical and verbal conflict they seem to ignite?"
"Should they be banned nationwide primarily due to what they represent and the documented incitement of extremely uncomfortable and often aggressive illegal physical and verbal conflict they seem to ignite?"
It is apparent the MAGA hat represents different meanings to each individual. MAGA stands for "Mke America Great Agin". Which to me is a suitable slogan for those that chose to support our president? For those that don't, the problem is theirs to live with. This country is based on freedom...
I note that you did not address my simple question in regards to how Russia has benefited from the Trump presidency. Under Trump, our military has become strong, and so has NATO. You should really do research before just making statements. "Chile Molester" resource, please. Stay focused.
Seriously, how many times do the same facts need to be presented to Trump followers? FYI Sharlee01, the hard cold FACT is Clowny McTrump the racist, actually endorsed an alleged pedophile named Roy Moore for U.S. Senate which is nothing less than a SHOCKING Abomination which GOD will surely punish him for when he leaves this Earth and NO, you can't separate that despicable act of insanity from the symbolism of a "MAGA" hat and NO NATO is now in a fragile state because of Bozo's insanity:
When a follower wears a "MAGA" hat, no doubt, Bozo Trump's endorsement of an alleged pedophile comes with it, so please, wear it with pride:
"Trump officially endorses Roy Moore in Alabama"
"President Donald Trump on Monday officially endorsed embattled Alabama GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore, who has been accused of sexual misconduct with teenage girls decades ago."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald … im-n826206
Do you think Moore is guilty because it was proven in a court of law, or because he's a Republican?
Sorry, Onusonus but I'm not engaging in that conservative ridiculousness: The evidence was mounting and when Donald goes to prison he might just have a difficult time of it because of the DISDAIN inmates have for child molesters:
So now you want to claim Trump is a child molester. I think you have him confused with Joe Biden.
Ridiculous, I never said Donald was a child molester but believe it or not he did endorse an alleged one for U.S senate which is just as abominable in the eyes of GOD. Nothing less than insane and another of a myriad of reasons for his immediate removal from our oval office: Go back and read my previous comments and you'll find the truth:
Now wear your "MAGA" hat with pride:
I love your new 'in the name of God' shtick.
But, you cannot ignore the fact that the Democratic party stood behind a known rapist and his wife. Only recently has that support become an embarrassment. The Democrat party stands behind a renowned antisemite and now has a member who speaks openly anti-Semitic sentiments. The democratic party openly stands against what the majority of Americans consider to be reasonable restrictions on late term abortions. Not to mention the fact that you, yourself, were advocating pedophilia against a minor in these forums just several months ago.
I think, the Democratic party might be embroiled in a pissing contest with God, if we need to bring religion into the conversation.
Let's not forget Bill Clinton... Lolita Island is his favorite place to get some sun... LOL
Oh right I forgot, liberals don't much care for using the legal system. The rule of law always seems to stand in the way of mob justice...
Wait, you think Trump is going to jail for child molestation? Seriously???
I NEVER said that, but if our laws are still valid the evidence shows that he should be going away to prison very soon for just about everything else like Obstruction, Conspiracy, Abuse of Power, Witness Tampering etc etc and if and when the inmates ever found out he INSANELY endorsed an alleged child molester for senate and actually instructed his followers to VOTE for him, they might just get mean and ornery considering the abominably unforgivable nature of the act:
Jake, You can't engage because Moore was not charged only slandered... You know, the Dems have used these cheap tactics for years. Slander without proof. "engage" you have no evidence to engage, only innuendo.
"These nine women have accused Roy Moore of sexual misconduct"
https://qz.com/1147348/these-nine-women … isconduct/
Yet not one of these women brought any form of charges or proof of their allegations? Seems it very easy to make an accusation in today's world without any real proof. Also a bit odd that all waited just until now to step up with their accusation.
"Seriously, how many times do the same facts need to be presented to Trump followers?"
Your rantings just don't count as resources...
" and NO NATO is now in a fragile state because of Bozo's insanity:" Again no real resource to back up this statement.
" been accused of sexual misconduct with teenage girls decades ago." The keyword accused. You need to not take every statement the media makes as truth. No really. Moore has never been brought up on any of these charges... This is a fact. He has filed lawsuits against at least one for slandering his name. The Dema are well known for this cheap sexual slander. History proves that well. They are so very transparent when it comes to this tactic. It's almost implied as a political ploy Dems. This kind of politicking is old, and not many buy into it. Need I mention the Dems over the past year have been accused of some form of sexual abuse?
If NATO is strong maybe you can explain this major embarrassment: Retard number 2 announcing to our once close allies that he's there on behalf of Retard number 1, Donald Trump: Then, you could actually hear an ant blow her nose about 30 feet away:
Maybe you could explain the difference between a "MAGA" hat and a confederate flag or a disgraceful statue of Robert E Lee?
Not sure of your logic? Your original statement - " and NO NATO is now in a fragile state because of Bozo's insanity:" Again no real resource to back up this statement. "
NATO is very much intact, and we are no longer paying most of the cost to keep it solvent. This is due to Trump requesting that all countries start paying their fair share. Just my opinion, but after checking out your resource, I would not consider it odd that Pence got no applause after adding a greeting from Trump. I would think that many are very unhappy about Trump being so outspoken about NATO members so in arrears. I would think they dislike Trump greatly. NATO has gotten away with the USA footing the bill for from its very conception. Very proud to say, I appreciate that Trump stepped up, and has many of them paying their fair share. NATO is stronger in the past two years than they have been in many years. Not sure why one cares about applause versus the strength of this organization? Seems very shallow to me Jake... Just my opinion, president Trump seems to be doing a wonderful job of running the country. I realize some love appearance and style over a job well done.
"Before their meeting, Shanahan praised Stoltenberg for his work to arrive at an equitable sharing of the security burden. "Since President Trump took office, America’s NATO allies have stepped up defense spending by a total of $41 billion," he said. "Allied defense spending increased by more than 9 percent from 2016 to 2018 – the largest increase is 25 years. By 2020, our NATO allies are projected to increase defense spending by approximately $100 billion."
I was referring to the extremely fragile state NATO is now in due to Putin's Poodle destabilizing the union, not who is financing it or how it's being financed because is we ever left Bozo Trump in charge of the money matters another bankruptcy is surely imminent:
Can you explaing the difference between a "MAGA" hat and the confederate flag because I can't seem to distinguish the two in any meaningful way?
This is the evidence presented to you earlier that David Duke is backing Ilhan Omar:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 … lhan-omar/
Nobody cares about who is or isn't backing Ilhan Omar, we're talking about Racist White Nationalist KKKer David Duke's enthusiastic support of Donald Trump and how that negatively impacts the symbolism of a "MAGA" hat and WHY anyone would wear one of these hats if that's what it represents:
So what you're saying, if I understand correctly, is why would anyone support the agenda of Ilhan Omar since she's clearly such a hater, one such endorsed by the hater David Duke? It sounds like you're saying that, but correct me if I'm wrong.....
What I'm saying is I don't care about Omar because she's not destroying our American institutions like Donald Trump is, she's not sabotaging OUR Health-Care System as Donald Trump is and she's not weakening our once tight and strong NATO allies as Donald Trump is, and he might be conducting his INSANITY at the behest of our arch enemy Vladimir Putin:
That's what a "MAGA" hat represents to those of us who are NOT Trump followers:
You do realize that the far left espouses communist ideals? They carry communist flags at their rallies?
Putin, for all his flaws, is not Stalin. Stalin appears to be the hero of the far left.
Not the left majority (hopefully). But, keep demonizing with false facts and foolish emotion driven rhetoric whose goal can only be to influence the simple minded.
"Can you explaing the difference between a "MAGA" hat and the confederate flag because I can't seem to distinguish the two in any meaningful way?"
Yes, I can give you my view on the two. The MAGA hat has a very pro- America sentiment - "Make America Great Again".
The Confederate flag also very much meant many things to many citizens of the south. It certainly was a bleak time in our history, a time that many would be ashamed of. But the Confederate flag is part of our history, a part that banning it will not hide or erase. It evokes many negative feelings. The MAGA hat should not evoke ill feelings. Its slogan is positive, and should not provoke ill feelings of any kind. Other than to some that feel they have the right to dictate the hat be ban. Seems a dangerous concept to me.
So far as I can tell, everything OP has ever said was worth no more than what one flushes.
Not a bit of it has ever served any purpose other than to make all members of the establishment look lesser than we did previous to the alluded to's entrance. What a shame. I'd use a fake name too, were I to behave in such a manner.
Other than a teen accused of a school "dress code violation"(1), and a restaurant owner banning people wearing MAGA hats (then apologizing)(2), I can't find any examples of "Regions across the country" banning such hats. Can you provide a reliable source?
(1) https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/2/25 … ie-mueller
(2) https://www.cbsnews.com/news/restaurant … pologizes/
an area or division, especially part of a country or the world having definable characteristics but not always fixed boundaries.
"one of the region's major employers"
an administrative district of a city or country.
synonyms: district, province, territory, division, area, section, sector, zone, belt, tract, stretch, expanse, terrain, part, quarter, locality, locale; More
a part of the body, especially around or near an organ.
"an unexpected clenching sensation in the region of her heart"
Another example of why Liberals have no concept as to what the US Constitution is about. The answer to your question is in the 1st amendment.
So, what they represent to you outweighs what they represent to another?
I'd like to know what makes one opinion take precedent over another, forcing legal action.
Talk about feeling entitled.
Of course! "I don't like them (and may choose to become violent if I see one), so no one can wear them".
They are like a bunch of Jehovah witnesses claiming Halloween represents people mourning for those lost in the flood. It's asinine.
This is really bizarre stuff. Do you wonder how far it's going to go?
As in having an illegal President elected by Vladimir Putin who promotes a white America and keeps attacking democracy and the Constitution?
Thank God we have courts with judges from both parties who keep blocking him.
Oh jeeze promisem, Jake has hijacked your account!
So we have this angry 72 year old racist exhibiting his typical ugly racist tendencies while wearing a controversial "MAGA" hat, an unbelievably disturbing incident which actually happened right here in the USA not long ago, a bone chilling occurrence which was captured on FILM as proof at one of his eerie gatherings and you think I've hijacked promisem's account?
Just FYI GA, the overwhelming majority of Americans find this behavior be unacceptable in the USA or anywhere:
I don't know, but I'm laughing my butt off. They keep it up and the election will be in the bag for the right. There can't be enough loony toons believing this stuff enough to swing the election left.
In that regard, I welcome it. We'll have four more years of freedom from the far left before the hammer falls.
I think we are on the cusp of being free from the far left. The moderate left is seeing them for the power grabbing country dividing hypocrites they are. I think the democrats will soon take their party back.
Sorry Kathryn, but I was never really a Stones fan, especially after they morphed into a "jam Band" in the late 70's but here's a much better VID, More Exciting, Vivid Colors & Imagery:
It's Very CUTE Kathryn with a Very Strong Unambiguous anti-Fox Propaganda Message urging their gullible angry, racist alt-right wing viewers to snap out of their hate filled brain fog and "THINK for Themselves":
If Ann Coulter can "DUMP Drumpfy Trump" I suppose anyone can:
Ann Coulter is a right wing extremist. I'd think Trump would be happy to see her go down the road.
If there is fascism in the United States, it is on the part of the democrat party. They have direct ties to the violent thug group “Antifa.” Hitler had his brown shirts, and the democrat party has Antifa. Pretty much the same thing.
“On Nov. 17, two U.S. Marines were attacked in Philadelphia by a group of antifa activists. One of those recently charged in the attack with aggravated assault, ethnic intimidation, and terroristic threats was Joseph Alcoff. Alcoff also ran Smash Racism D.C., the organization that laid siege to the home of Tucker Carlson and chased Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and his wife out of a restaurant where they were dining.”
“Alcoff’s past work has also been praised by Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Tammy Baldwin, D-Wisc. He has also appeared with Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, and with House Financial Services Chairwoman Maxine Waters, D-Calif.
It's deeply disturbing to learn that a radical individual who promoted anarchy and allegedly committed physical violence was able to help shape sweeping financial policy and regulation impacting millions of Americans. But that's just one symptom of a much deeper problem that is the Democratic Party's radicalization.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin … egulations
Readmikenow, I understand the knee-jerk reaction for alt-righters is to claim the old tired FALSE Comparison between ANTIFA and Nazis but let me just explain the REALITY: Bozo Trump's alt-right white nationalists of today are the equivalent of the Nazis of Germany in the 1930's and 40's while ANTIFA a group of individuals that OBSTRUCTS the white nationalists are the equivalent of the allied forces which CRUSHED the Nazis in the 1940's:
YES, evil white nationalists which Bozo Trump courts and ANTIFA, the forces of GOOD:
I do find it appropriate however that you felt the need to invoke Nazis in the very same discussion as the topic of Banning "MAGA" hats:
ANFIA as the forces of good?? Wow, have you lost it? ANTIFA is a group of thugs that use physical violence, including property destruction, to oppose groups "they say" are fascist, nationalist or white supremacist. Interestingly, the smaller groups that make up ANTIFA are all from the left, including anarchists.
While opposing fascism and white (or black) supremacism is admirable, doing so in the manner they're doing it is wrong at the least.
Antifa being having close ties to the Democrat party is more than a little disturbing.
Not nearly as disturbing as Bozo Trump retweeting quotes from Benito Mussolini, exhibiting his racism in public and FAILING to Condemn white nationalist neo-nazis:
That's just MORE insanity for which a "MAGA" hat symbolizes:
Sorry Jake. A known communist organization which hurls racial epithets as often as most of us say good morning, with close ties to the Democratic party, is more disturbing than your often imagined complaints about one man who has a limited time in office.
Another similarity between ANTIFA and the Nazi party is how ANTIFA will burn books. It's symbolic to them just like the Nazi party. They will be violent with people who have a different point of view ONLY because they have a different point of views. This is just like the brown shirts who worked for the Nazis.
SORRY Live to Learn and Readmikenow but unfortunately for you both, I and the vast overwhelming majority of AMERICANS are not Trump followers, NEVER was NEVER will be and I look forward to the day he's sucking iron bars and the USA is pulled from Bozo Donald's constant state of crisis and emergency:
I know up from down and left from right and despite your attempts to confuse and conflate, in REALITY, Bozo Trump is the mad elderly individual who retweets Mussolini propaganda, sides with white nationalist neo-nazis in Charlottseville and elsewhere, tells his little sheep to vote for an alleged child molester and forsakes the American flag on national television to appease who appears to be his dominant master Vladimir Putin:
Just a sample, a few of his despicable UNHOLY, Abominable Acts which his little "MAGA" hat represents and most people don't want any part of his insanity:
SORRY Jake Earthshine but unfortunately for you, I and the vast overwhelming majority of AMERICANS are not ANTIFA fans, NEVER were NEVER will be, and I look forward to the day that the leaders of ANTIFA are sucking iron bars and the USA is pulled from the threat of chaos and anarchy at their hands:
The irony of a bunch of whites dressed in black with masks covering their faces while screaming 'FACIST' at anyone who doesn't agree with them, while beating up those who disagree, burning books, hurling racial slurs and acting in as anti social a manner as they can; while claiming they are the arbiters of right and wrong, isn't lost.
Well, isn't lost on thinking people. It's obviously so far above the heads of those who like being spoon feed hate and division they aren't aware of the irony.
Anyone know where I can buy a case of em? I might want to bootleg em on the black market of freedom.
Actually, a "MAGA" hat certainly doesn't stand for "freedom" if you accept the fact that it's a symbol of everything Donald Trump is which in reality is a Republican Socialist, a Fascist Sympathizer, a Cowardly Communist Vladimir Putin Public Appeaser and a weak 72 year old person who adores and seems to worship dictators: Donald is essentially BACKWARDS and Unholy:
Truthfully, I can't seem to differentiate one of these hats or other products from a confederate flag or statue of Robert E Lee:
Have you considered writing your thoughts about Trump in a book or some type of manifesto?
Send me a copy. I can make a youtube video of me putting it on my bbq grill. I use green-friendly charcoal briquets btw.
I suggest a good title would be "Incoherent Ramblings of the DTS Afflicted" What do you think?
I could use such a manifesto to wipe my feet on when I come home.
Okay, I'll see your rude old man on a plane from two years ago video and raise you a radical leftist Democrat adult attacking a young guy only because the young man is wearing a MAGA hat.
I'll further raise you a list of people attacked for wearing a MAGA hat
https://www.newsweek.com/criminal-acts- … ts-1357179
To make things interesting since young kids have been attacked...to further sweeten the pot...I'll throw in a story about an 81-year old man attacked for wearing a MAGA hat.
What else you got?
I'll throw in a video of a 911 widow being verbally abused by Antifa.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com … widow/amp/
This is not a discussion about ANTIFA who showed up in masses in Charlottesville to protest David Dukes and Bozo Trump's neo-Nazi Nationalists which tragically ended with a despicable nationalist killing an innocent woman, it's about the right to "BAN" "MAGA" hats for all they they represent:
If you're ancestors were not involved in the eradication of Hitler's Fascists in the 1940's as mine were, you might be oblivious to the difference between Nazis and the joined Allied Forces of the USA, France, England etc which STOPPED these monsters in their ugly, evil tracks, allied forces which Bozo Trump is publicly doing his level best to DISMANTLE and Weaken before our very eyes either intentionally or otherwise:
"Bozo Trump is publicly doing his level best to DISMANTLE and Weaken before our very eyes either intentionally or otherwise:
In what way has president Trump weakened NATO? You ramble on and on without any type of evidence to prove your point?
Sharlee01, I can't force you to read, see, hear and or accept the concrete evidence I post to support all my comments: It's up to you to make the decision as to your acceptance of real FACTS which your own eyes can see and ears can hear, or the incoherent babbling of untruths Donald Trump spews almost daily:
The choice is yours:
Yes, it is my choice when it comes to resources I believe to give good information when it comes to legitimizing their resources.
To begin with, your question was referring to banning MAGA hats? You went off subject and referred to how president Trump dismantled NATO? I have not been provided any form of a link as a resource to give any credence to your belief?
My question was - In what way has president Trump weakened NATO? You ramble on and on without any type of evidence to prove your point?
"Bozo Trump is publicly doing his level best to DISMANTLE and Weaken before our very eyes either intentionally or otherwise:"
You then post
"Sharlee01, I can't force you to read, see, hear and or accept the concrete evidence I post to support all my comments: It's up to you to make the decision as to your acceptance of real FACTS which your own eyes can see and ears can hear, or the incoherent babbling of untruths Donald Trump spews almost daily:"
????? No resource on the subject of NATO???? And how Trump DEMOLISHED IT. I will be glad to have a look at any resource that gives any form of proof that NATO is weaker due to our president. I actually did provide you with a link showing that NATO is doing very well over the past two years.
Perhaps you missed it?
Another concern. that should concern you I the fact that the deficit is growing, and we continue to pay an absorbent amount to NATO. The media has not covered the fact that Trump is once again addressing Americas cost in supporting NATO. Trump has proposed that the several countries that we have troops, Japan, South Korea, Germany start paying at least 50% of the costs we incur to protect them. This is a progressive solution to cut our debt. We can no longer afford to pick up other counties bills.
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2019/ma … rom-allies
I don't miss much Sharlee01 and the direct connection between Bozo Trump's overt public undermining of NATOs strength and stability are just more unconventionally atrocious actions by him which is a direct reflection of what a "MAGA" actually hat represents:
Despite how hard alt-right wingers try, they can never segregate and or separate racist Vladimir Putin Poodle Donald from what the "MAGA" hat truly stands for: "Make America Great Again" is nothing new and the cruddy David Dukes of the world are on board with it:
"Trump Discussed Pulling U.S. From NATO, Aides Say Amid New Concerns Over Russia:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/us/p … trump.html
David Duke has jumped on the bandwagon of another star now. Ilhan Omar.
Try to keep up Jake.
I really don't care about Omar and I am up to date and KKKer David Duke is an absolute "MAGA" hatter:
So you stand against one person endorsed by Duke, but you're okay with the other.
Two antisemites doesn't interest you? I understand. Antisemitism is the new democratic party's idea of cool.
Immediately above Jake, you said this: ""Make America Great Again" is nothing new and the cruddy David Dukes of the world are on board with it".
It seems to me that you're in a state of righteous indignation about anyone or anything that David Duke has endorsed. I take it then that you're of the same mind concerning Omar?
I'm just trying to understand......
The language and repulsive slogans of Bozo Trump and repugnant republicans of today is nothing new, "America First", just a coincidence?
SORRY readmikenow, but the overwhelming majority of Americans don't suffer from some made up "magaphobia" which is designed to distract from the truth, we despise what the "MAGA" hat represents and you can't separate Donald from the hat regardless of how hard his last remaining followers try:
I love the delusional world you live in Jake, it is so entertaining.
NICE PICTURE OF DEMOCRATS.
Yes, this is a picture of Democrats, who started the KKK, marching. I know this was a long time ago because Democrats sure wouldn't put America first today.
Now for a picture of a US president with someone who is a true racist and anti-Semite.
You're simply wrong again readmikenow and really don't know what a handsome picture of a true leader like President Obama is doing in this discussion about "MAGA" hats and other merchandise but oh well, when there's no valid defense of Bozo Trump and his racism, why not try to distract from the subject I guess:
I'm assuming you don't recognize the democratic darling Obama is standing next to.
A couple of quotes he's famous for:
I'm not an anti-Semite. I’m anti-Termite.
Satanic Jews who have infected the whole world with poison and deceit.
Obama really knows how to pick them.
But, again, you are showcasing how anti-Semitism is part and parcel of backing the new democratic party.
Here is one of my favorite Farrakhan sayings concerning white people.
“White people are potential humans…they haven’t evolved yet." — Philadelphia Inquirer, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 3/18/00
Here is a good one about whites and homosexuals
“He [Elijah Muhammad] came to save us from the sins of white people that have been imposed on us since we have been under their rule. We didn’t have homosexuality in Africa, that’s not our tradition.” — 23rd Anniversary of the Million Man March/Holy Day of Atonement, 10/14/18
And THIS is someone Obama met with at the White House. I think he could be considered a racist?
Definitely a racist. But, he's a Democrat so, apparently, that's not a problem for people like Jake.
STILL no valid "On Topic" defense of Bozo Trump i see, but who could ever come up with a valid defense of this anti-American stooge?
Apparently, the 72 year old broken down elderly person in the oval office only likes those who weren't captured in a time of war, as if he has any clue about Bravery, Courage & Integrity:
BABBLING Idiot of a Disgrace who apparently doesn't like our Great American POW War Heroes::
BTW, The "Problem" is President Obama and whomever else you and the alt righters try to use in here to distract from the fact that we're talking about Donald's "MAGA" hat, have absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic:
On topic would be 'should maga hats be banned nationwide'. You've been off topic for six pages.
"oh well, when there's no valid defense of Bozo Trump and his racism, why not try to distract from the subject I guess:"
Who brought up the KKK Jake? Here's a quote from one Jake Earthshine in this very thread: "...David Duke and his white nationalist KKK are rabid supporters of Bozo Trump....."
David Duke and his white nationalist KKK are apparently ALSO rabid supporters of Ilhan Omar and her anti semitic agenda.
I'll ask you again Jake: Are you now in opposition to Ihan Omar because of Duke's support for her?
Can anyone imagine what the media would have been like if people wearing "Hope and Change" hats, shirts, etc. had been attacked like those wearing MAGA hats?
That would have been the lead on the news cycle all over the world for months.
Well. the "hope and change" paraphernalia are offensive.
The difference being the "Hope & Change" hats were never a symbol of a 72 year old person who fans the flames of racism & misogyny and who has publicly displayed anti-American POW sentiment, has Caged Children, Trashed our Law Enforcement, Appeased Vladimir Putin and "Hope & Change" was never endorsed by leaders of the KKK and breitbart type White Nationalists:
There should never be any kind of violence and those who perpetrate it, even minor incidents such as those depicted in this film clip must be held accountable and appropriate legal punishment administered, but here's a Valid Question: Are they wearing these controversial "MAGA" hats because they truly believe in what Mr. Trump represents which is very difficult to believe, or perhaps to provoke a reaction and get attention? Who really knows: Seriously, what parent would actually allow their 6th grade child to attend school wearing one of these hats? A little irresponsible don't you think?
The concept of the first amendment is beyond you Jake.
If someone wants to wear a hat to show their support for the president, they should be able to do so without some idiotic brain dead moron trying to be self-righteous and falsely morally superior.and feel they're justified in violence.
I would suggest we have a MAGA hat day in schools around the country to show support for the first Amendment.
The people who attack people with MAGA hats are self-assured ignorant pigs...to be kind.
Wrong again readmikenow, I understand our constitution better than most and the right to BAN symbols like a "MAGA" hat are practiced daily because Americans are afforded that right, but even if it were unconstitutional, Bozo Trump by violating the emoluments clause from day one by accepting money from foreign entities via properties with his name posted on them, has essentially SUSPENDED our constitution pending litigation and perhaps prosecution:
You know darn well a "MAGA Hat Day" here in the USA would never happen in a million years, maybe they might have one in Vladimir Putin's Communist Russia, but certainly not here where it would cause a massive disruption:
Would you also encourage a "Confederate Flag Day" or "General Robert E Lee Day" or "White Nationalist Day" right?
You equating such hate filled rhetoric to a simple hat gives much more insight into your mindset than the random person wearing it.
Hopefully, someday the unhinged hatred on the left will subside and sanity will prevail.
In REALITY, the unhinged hatred, racism and misogyny is located in the oval office, not on the left: He's in constant crisis, chaos and oblivious to what the USA actually stands for:
The "MAGA" hat is not a simple head ornament, it represents the person who as we speak, is trying desperately to dismantle the institutions which have made this country great and is sabotaging our health-care system which is an abomination, a mad individual who stokes division, racial tension and who openly courts neo-nazi white nationalists:
This is a time of shear insanity which we've unfortunately become acclimated to, the "SHOCKS" are gone, but that doesn't mean a hat which symbolizes this is clown show trickery and bamboozlement is not offensive to the overwhelming majority:
We disagree. Your posts are full of hatred, imo. The social media mobs of the left are full of hatred. The rhetoric of the politicians on the left is full of hatred. All of it comes off as racist, too.
But, you don't see any moderates or conservatives asking any of this to be banned. All we are calling for is civility, stop the violence, stop the hatred. I also see racism running rampant on the left. I see religious persecution running rampant on the left.
The only difference is the left wears masks. Just like the KKK.
Trump is just a convenient scape goat so those who have no ability to respect others can spew their hatred.
" Are they wearing these controversial "MAGA" hats because they truly believe in what Mr. Trump represents which is very difficult to believe, or perhaps to provoke a reaction and get attention? Who really knows"
It doesn't matter. They have a right to express their views, non violently. My view is that the best thing is to keep political clothing out of schools, but if they're allowing it, then MAGA hats, shirts, etc, must be allowed also.
It would be a very difficult position to defend legally, ethically or morally - that political clothing in schools is fine, but only if it originates in the liberal or Democratic philosophy.
Of course, the exact same thing can be said of allowing the same clothing outside of schools, which was the topic of this thread and is just as indefensible.
Trump on, the country voted and via our constitution, he was appointed to be our president. His campaign slogan "Make America Great Again" we as Americans have the choice to embrace the slogan if we choose too. Anyone that opposes it has the choice not to embrace it. They do not have the right to ban it. This entire subject is ridiculous. I mentioned the little pink hats women wore when protesting our president offend me. I never would even entertain promoting them ban or knocking one off someone's head... Some on the left seem to think if they feel something offends them they have the right to have it "outlawed, ban... Just shows how wacky some in our society have become.
Incorrect Sharlee01, the right to BAN a "MAGA" hat for what it represents is alive and well here in the USA:
Looks like this discussion was started at a perfect when a white nationalist who embraces Donald Trump for his public invitations, just murdered 49 in cold blood in New Zealand and not one word of condemnation for this dangerous clan of creeps who for some reason or another, can't seem to assimilate into our ever changing society:
WHY can't Mr. Trump rebuke white nationalists ? presumably because with his rapidly SHRINKING base, that's probably all he's got left:
Yeah right, "MAGA"
Trump twittered out: "My warmest sympathy and best wishes goes out to the people of New Zealand after the horrible massacre in the mosques. 49 innocent people have so senselessly died, with so many more seriously injured. The US stands by New Zealand for anything we can do,"
Honestly, for all of the allegations of Trump racism, you offer no proof. Many who've worked with him say they never heard him utter a racist word.
He is not racist and either are the majority of people in America.
Donald never condemned "Nationalists" for this horrifying act of evil as a matter of fact, this boneheaded 72 year old actually said in so many words they are NOT a threat which everyone knows is an absurdly retarded notion:
But honestly by now, his public insanity is not surprising it's actually become rather boring, Donald ALWAYS does and says the exact OPPOSITE of what is normal, good, holy and righteous, the most dreadfully predictable individual on the planet and our enemies read him like a proverbial book as well:
Donald is a racist if you have the proclivity to believe your own eyes and ears and of course the majority of Americans are NOT racist, but the majority of his last remaining followers certainly are which constitutes a tiny sliver of Americans:
Every time I find myself becoming astonished that there are STILL a few people out there who actually follow this clownish looking elderly person, I'm reminded of huckster madmen like Marshall Applewhite who actually bamboozled lost souls into seeking a space ship of salvation by drinking the kool-aid: SAD
"Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2019"
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/ … sm-history
"WHY can't Mr. Trump rebuke white nationalists ? presumably because with his rapidly SHRINKING base, that's probably all he's got left:"
Actually, president Trump has rebuked white nationalist on many occasions, you just are not listening to what you don't want to hear.
Well Sharlee01, I think everyone's eyes and ears are WIDE open in utter disbelief and disgust when they watch this angry, strange looking circus clown spew his racist diatribe:
S*H*O*C*K*I*N*G Horrifying & Alarming ******* :
"New Zealand shooter calls Trump ‘symbol of renewed white identity’"
https://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/new- … 9497539691
I read the shooter thought people were gullible enough to be fall for the bullshit he didn't really believe so he could foment violence. I guess he was right. About some.
Oh yeah, I'm sure women simply adore this "MAGA" or is it really "MAGGOT"?
Fat shaming a guy for fat shaming.
The photo simply points out the fact that the hypocritical, horrendously unattractive presidential impostor in our oval office who disgracefully and disgustingly "fat shames" women, is actually an obese, self confessed, sickly greasy bucket fried chicken eating elderly person himself:
Uhh. That's still fat shaming because he fat shamed.
You needed that pointed out twice?
Let's just say the elderly, angry weirdo person depicted in this image is probably far fatter, pudgier and infinitely more bizarre looking than any woman he has ever "Fat Shamed" and that's priceless, so everyone should wear their "MAGA" hats with that in mind and always remember, when the good lord calls them home, he's gonna' deemand specific answers as to WHY they actually wore a hat which represents this abomination:
Yep. God cares about a stupid hat more than hateful comments, repeated ad naseum.
That makes perfect sense.
I'm pretty sure GOD fully understands what a "MAGA" hat stands for, he needs no help from me:
Only if you happened to be God. Which you aren't.
Not sure WHY you seem to respond to things I've never said but I guess that's your right Live to Learn, but here's another example of what "MAGA" represents and it ain't Good, Descent, Holy or American, it's beyond despicable and everyone knows it, even most of his last remaining followers probably understand this is abominable but apparently they're just floating along on auto-pilot sucking up the anger and hate, at least for now until they finally wake up or are subject to an intervention like former cultees have:
So, honestly, what's wrong upstairs with this 72 year old? Most experts would probably say it's absolutely not normal to aimlessly attack a great American hero like John McCain who saved our health-Care system from Mr. Trump's and Republicans sabotage attempts months and months ago, a brave courageous REAL man enlisted in our NAVY who sacrificed so much for the USA:
"John McCain is still making Donald Trump look small"
https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion … 217081002/
Jake. I don't understand why this is such a difficult thing for you to understand.
You look at a maga hat. You see terrible images and horrible things. Another person looks at a maga hat and sees a hat. Just a hat. Another person sees the slogan and thinks 'more jobs, better economy, etc'
The fact that you choose to see evil provides a window into your psyche. No one else's. Your hate only equates to you. No one else.
I don't see evil, a "MAGA" hat is a symbol of everything Donald Trump is and I wouldn't say what's depicted in the following clip is good, holy, righteous or sane, it's a disturbing film clip of what appears to be a very flustered and sick 72 year old:
No other person in his position has ever exhibited public signs of anger, hate and mental illness like this and that's a simple fact: I'm not sure how any rational individual who loves his or her country could ever slap on one of these hats with this image in the back or their minds and not be fearful of what GOD has in store for them, and this is just one of many examples:
Ok. You heard a woosh over your head on that one, smoothed your hair back down and moved on.
Not a problem.
So now the MOB is a target of "MAGA hatters"? i don't know, but it's probably not such a wise choice of victims and showing very poor judgement, but then again, wearing a "MAGA" hat around town in public and into schools or bars might not be the wisest of judgement by parents either considering the controversy surrounding them:
Now do you think a re-consideration of a "BAN" on these hats might be prudent?
"Alleged mob boss killer Anthony Comello scrawls ‘MAGA Forever’ on his hand"
https://www.silive.com/news/2019/03/ant … ID1zkS_Y7M
He said 'let's just say for the sake of argument'. I'm beginning to understand the leftist mindset now. You jump on straws. No wondering your arguments always fall so flat.
"Leftist Mindset"? For one, a "Leftie" would never be caught dead wearing a little red "MAGA" hat which represents a yellow belly like this who actually has the face, as unattractive as it is to "Insult & Disparage" our great American POWS, our Flag and the USA in front of the world on national television:
And Believe it or NOT, there are still a few individuals who listen to his babble: No, it's NOT Ok:
"I LIke People Who Weren't Captured OK?"
LOL. The number of people being duped by dribble such as what you post here is declining daily.
Live to Learn: I'd appreciate if you'd stop following me around with your personal attacks on the truth that I post: Your boy who is anti-American POW which makes him anti-American Military which is disgraceful is finished anyway, so cherish your "MAGA" hat which is a symbol of all the hate and anger it represents:
The Mueller report will be Covered Up as we all predicted in this scandal of MEGA-Proportions, 4 measly pages released the other day by Republican Shill Bill Barr which only included a few words from Robert Mueller and even those few pages scrubbed clean by CONservatives couldn't EXONERATE "bitty mitts" Trump: Let the scam, sham and con-job on the American people by Republicans continue and watch the Communist Russian Republican senate collapse in 2020:
"Your boy who is anti-American POW which makes him anti-American Military which is disgraceful is finished anyway"
Okay, so he's finished. As long as he's around for 6 more years to crush the agenda of the far left, it'll work.
Liberals really can't handle an opinion other than their own. When challenged with an opposing point of view, liberals run from it. There is not substance in their beliefs. See, adults who are confident in what they believe don't worry about such things. Adult behavior is a concept liberals do not seem to grasp or comprehend.
Actually, there's a lot of "Substance in our Beliefs" when we the Mighty and Strong Progressive Democrats say we reserve the RIGHT to BAN any individual who wears a "MAGA" hat which is a symbol of this disgusting display of retardation and hate exhibited by a disgraceful 72 year old fool:
Jake, sorry I must high jack this conversation. BIG BREAKING NEWS Michael creepy porn lawyer Avenatti (you know the one you felt would put president Trump in prison) has been arrested. Looks like he won't be much help putting Trump in prison.
Speaking of CREEPY: Yikes:
SORRY Sharlee01 but a trump follower usually doesn't carry the required weight to "Hijack a Conversation" And what does that have to do with BANNING crappy "MAGA" hats by Americans who understand what they symbolize?
Concerning Michael Avenatti? Looks like the GOP found their 2020 presidential candidate because I'm pretty sure an "Un-Indicted Co-Conspirator" is DISQUALIFIED from a presidential bid:
Hate to blow my own horn, but I will. I always predicted Mueller would come up empty-handed. And it only cost us 25 million. You predicted our president would be put in prison. Oh, how about one more prediction? Trump will win once again in 2020...
" "Un-Indicted Co-Conspirator" is DISQUALIFIED from a presidential bid:" Jake this makes no sense? Plus you know creepy porn guy was going to run as a dem. Sounds like you are having a bit of a hard time with the Mueller report findings? I am awaiting the Interior General Horowitz report. All of Obama's cohorts will be joining creepy porn lawyer behind bars.
Sharlee01, nobody has even seen the Mueller report yet except a Republican HACK named Bill Barr who had a preconceived judgement about the criminal investigation: What does that tell you? It tells me MASSIVE COVER-Up but at this point, I really didn't expect anything else: Congress will get to the bottom of this most corrupt white house:
As for Donny in 2020? Michael Cohen just went off to prison for a Felony Crime he said Donny DIRECTED him to commit so I don't think he'll be running for anything but Prison Shoe Shine Boy in the near future: Moreover, "MAGA" stands for Maniacally SLASHING Senior Citizens Retirement Benefits by over a TRILLION Dollars, YES, believe it or NOT, it's an INSANE Trump Budget Threat to our entire retirement class who are now receiving, or will soon be collecting their expected entitlement benefits: ALL in the name of giving Wall Street their "Corporate Welfare Tax Cut Scheme":
The republican senate is DOOMED and they know it, the only question now is whether they REMOVE him before he destroys them and their Communist Russian Republican Party in a couple of years just like he destroyed the republican house in the 2018 midterms:
Not much I can say. I will remind you of this post the night president Trump wins his second four years in the White House. I guess you care little about being wrong, as you were with the results of the Mueller report... No there there... Just a fact
I am awaiting the Interior General Horowitz report. All of Obama's cohorts will be joining creepy porn lawyer behind bars. I note you just do not address this investigation?
lol, with Bozo Trump now in full retard mode re-igniting his insane ATTACKS on OUR Health-Care System to obviously try to inflict as much demonic pain on the USA as possible by destabilizing and dismantling it, I doubt he would have ever won another election without the help of Russians as he got in 2016: So there you go "MAGA" that, and just pray to GOD he's OBSTRUCTED and halted by the Progressive Democratic forces of GOOD in Congress before he and communist russian republicans completely set fire to your families vitally important health-care:
lol, if Michael Avenatti is a "Creepy Porn Lawyer" what do you call the elderly obese guy who apparently had to PAY tens of thousands of dollars to get his client Stormy Daniels to spend the night with his chubby, inadequate self? "Creepy Porn Pseudo President"?
BTW: Reports and court docs seem to implicate Donald as an "Unindicted Co-Conspirator" in the Stormy Case, Michael Cohen TESTIFIED under oath that Donny DIRECTED him to commit a felony crime, a crime for which Cohen is now sitting in a prison cell for so what does that make the "DIRECTOR"?
"I doubt he would have ever won another election without the help of Russians as he got in 2016"
No one on this thread, or on any thread here on Hubpages, or in Washington, or anywhere in the US has demonstrated that Russian interference in the 2016 election resulted in Trump winning. Your continued insistence that this happened doesn't make it fact.
But I'm all ears! Please DO present the evidence that the Russians tipped the election in favor of MAGA hat man.
Not sure how you develop your opinions? None of what you have said makes any sense? Facts speak loudly Jake. I note you just don't stick to the conversation or address the subject at hand?
Address my post, please...
"Hate to blow my own horn, but I will. I always predicted Mueller would come up empty-handed. And it only cost us 25 million. You predicted our president would be put in prison. Oh, how about one more prediction? Trump will win once again in 2020...
" "Un-Indicted Co-Conspirator" is DISQUALIFIED from a presidential bid:" Jake this makes no sense? Plus you know creepy porn guy was going to run as a dem. Sounds like you are having a bit of a hard time with the Mueller report findings? I am awaiting the Interior General Horowitz report. All of Obama's cohorts will be joining creepy porn lawyer behind bars." Focus
Maybe democrats should have their own version of the MAGA hats. A Trump Russia Collusion Hat.
Looks to me like a Bernie supporter!
It actually looks more like Trump Junior with a wig
What is this discussion any more? Both sides have resorted to attacking the other sides character rather than their arguments. This is the reason we get nowhere in politics. We should all take a look back at what Obama said in his farewell address:
"For too many of us, it's become safer to retreat into our own bubbles, whether in our neighborhoods or on college campuses, or places of worship, or especially our social media feeds, surrounded by people who look like us and share the same political outlook and never challenge our assumptions. The rise of naked partisanship, and increasing economic and regional stratification, the splintering of our media into a channel for every taste -- all this makes this great sorting seem natural, even inevitable. And increasingly, we become so secure in our bubbles that we start accepting only information, whether it's true or not, that fits our opinions, instead of basing our opinions on the evidence that is out there."
This from a president who blamed an attack on our Embassy in Libya on a YouTube video, knew it to be false, yet repeated that lie to the United Nations as well as the American people. There is also "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor"...hurt our national interests with Iran. This is just for starters.
I would say former president obama needs to get a speech writer who understands the concept of hypocrisy.
What does "MAGA" stand for? Queen Melanie is afforded health insurance for her hospital stay but Americans must endure another terroristic style assault on our health-care system: ABOMINABLE: This orange nut case is even attacking his OWN followers with his ongoing, evil scheme to STRIP their health insurance:
"Trump hands Democrats a gift with new effort to kill Obamacare"
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/ … re-1237367
Alarming **** MORE "MAGA" Trash, Lies and Darkness **** Ivy League Mental Health Experts WARNED us long ago about who they perceive and describe as this egregiously unfit, psychologically un-well individual camped out in our oval office acting like a madman king dictator where he and his family are afforded health insurance rights and luxuries while the rest suffer: And now, for whatever devious sick retarded reason rolling around in that little head of his, he's maniacally resumed his full assault on OUR health-care system attempting to Sabotage and Terminate health insurance for millions of Americans INCLUDING his OWN followers:
Once again as Americans have been forced to do so many times in the past and will inevitably be called to do in the future until he's finally Legally REMOVED, I feel the bubbling up of a POWERFUL Man and Woman POWER Mobilization by the USA to Protest and HALT this 72 year old dictator wanna be's insane actions in its tracks: This is unfortunately what we've been reduced to, an unfortunate division between what appears to be an illegitimate president acting like a third world paranoid dictator, and "we the people' who must CONSTANTLY OBSTRUCT & Repel his dark sinister thoughts and actions which we assume will be judged very harshly some day by GOD:
Still Acting Like Vladimir Putin's STOOGE to Undermine OUR Health-Care System:
"Why Trump’s New Push to Kill Obamacare Is So Alarming"
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/27/opin … e-act.html
Well, you won't see him REMOVED based on collusion with Russians. What will be the next trumped up, totally fake, charge you will levy against your President? That he wears a hairpiece and must therefore be impeached? Because that's all you have...
Although that ridiculous looking fluorescent yellow hair-piece or whatever that thing is plopped on his flat little head is arguably reason enough for his immediate removal to preserve the visual dignity of our oval office, I'll be very surprised if he's not REMOVED for a CONGLOMERATE of Counts & Articles including conspiracy, obstruction, abuse of power etc etc etc not to mention his public displays of mental incapacity and instability, uncontrollable tizzy fits of anger, hate, greed and unholy attacks on our health-care system which is a million times more likely to harm your family than the threat of ISIS ever would:
Nobody gets away with it forever and sooner or later the law will catch up to him:
Nobody gets away with it forever and sooner or later the law will catch up?
I believed that for years about the Clintons but it hasn't panned out yet.
Let's all hope those politicians, truly, guilty of crimes will be held accountable.
And any wrongfully accused will have those lying about them held accountable.
Jake do you really believe with all the investigations, not to mention bias journalist that if president Trump broke any of our laws. I mean any, that he would not have been charged accordingly? I guess all the people that are accusing Trump of crimes better prove these crimes rather quickly... Because most certainly he will be reelected. And then what Jake? Will you finally move on?
I have a pretty good idea where you get your info from Sharlee01 but too bad you don't read or listen to Legitimate News: Here's just one apparent crime: Your "MAGA" hat nut case according to prosecutors, stole donated money which was intended to be used for children suffering from cancer and other people in need and used it for his own PERSONAL Enrichment: UNHOLY, Immoral, Disgusting, Appalling and YES Criminal in the eyes of all normal individuals:
"Trump Foundation Will Dissolve, Accused of ‘Shocking Pattern of Illegality’"
Here's just one more CRIME of Immorality for which this decrepit 72 year old yellow belly should pay dearly for when GOD calls him to TESTIFY:
"MIT Prof.: Obamacare repeal would 'allow insurers to discriminate against the sick'"
https://www.msnbc.com/katy-tur/watch/mi … 5193027624
""MIT Prof.: Obamacare repeal would 'allow insurers to discriminate against the sick'"
Some MIT Prof. This "discrimination" is legit. There's no way an insurance company can survive without turning down people that are too high of a risk. If you drive, see what happens when you're in a car accident every year for 5-6 years! Your insurance company will drop you because you're too much of a risk.
Your insistence that healthcare is a God-given right has blinded you to reality.
"Here's just one more CRIME of Immorality for which this decrepit 72 year old yellow belly should pay dearly for when GOD calls him to TESTIFY:"
Gosh, I forgot to ask you exactly what crimes you're willing to commit against people so you can have what YOU want?
I can tell where you get your news from... LOL
" according to prosecutors, stole donated money which was intended to be used for children suffering from cancer and other people in need and used it for his own PERSONAL Enrichment: "
According to "PROSECUTORS" Does CNN ever use a legitimate name in any of their reports? No really, it seems you buy into anything fake news jocks cook up.
Please provide a link with the prosecutor's name. You see I like facts. A name face to put that name too. Now it well appears you just like to be fed any and all propaganda.
In regard to Obamcare. I am more than satisfied to pay for my own insurance, I am not in any way satisfied in paying for anyone that is able-bodied and able to pay their own.
Are you serious? The Trump Foundation Will be BOARDED Up at a judges orders because it was used for appalling nefarious purposes by a megalomaniac retard who seems to be under the delusion of believing that he can just take charity money from children in need, and WHY? Is he Flat BROKE?? That would be NO Surprise to anyone:
His foundation is no more, it's finished, closed down never to re-open again due to what prosecutors say was a SHOCKING pattern of illegality and that's just a hardcore fact:
I can always determine who around here actually lives in the USA and who actually worked a real job here in the USA by their responses to Bozo trump's insane attacks on our healthcare system and workers retirement benefits, it's very easy to figure out:
We were discussing News outlets??? Not sure why you can't address the subject? Seems very odd how you deflect constantly?
"According to "PROSECUTORS" Does CNN ever use a legitimate name in any of their reports? No really, it seems you buy into anything fake news jocks cook up."
Trump 2020... MAGA.
So, odd your opinions have been so beaten down, it must feel horrible to always be so wrong. How did you feel the night Hillary lost? At least when Trump wins a second four years you will b very accustom to those very feelings.
It's nice to know there are still a few out there like you who STILL for some GOD Forsaken reason support a dark, angry, hate filled individual who actually instructed his followers to vote for a man who allegedly molested a child and In REALITY Sharlee01, Hillary beat "tiny hands" Trump by about 3 MILLION Votes and if not for Vladimir Putin's assistance in using Russian Spies to artificially manipulate our system of democracy, Donald would probably be out there BEGGING for loans and we'd be on a road to continued success and prosperity under a REAL, patriotic and loyal president, not dangerously veering off onto this DARK Path of Nightmarish Insanity and Degradation of the USA:
BTW: Someone really should tell him to keep his little petite hands at his side when talking in public, it really distracts from what he's saying as if anyone's really listening to his verbal mess:
" Hillary beat "tiny hands" Trump by about 3 MILLION Votes "
Oh, when will she take her place in the White House? Oh, forgot we have used the electoral college since 1803 as a fair procedure to elect our president, and Hillary lost. Guess due to Hillary wanting to be president we should have considered changing the constitution?
BTW - Someone should tell Hillary she lost due to her personality, and her crooked behavior. Not to mention her despicable husband.
At least when Trump wins a second four years you will be well accustomed to losing. At least you should be?
lol, it was just a matter of time before you had to drag Hillary and Bill into a discussion about BANNING MAGA hats but when you have no defense of the orange blob, I guess that's all you can do is try to distract:
Just FYI Sharlee01, Hillary beat Bozo Trump by about 3 MILLION votes and without the help of our enemy Vladimir Putin who rigged the election, Donny Boy would probably be trying to open another "Trump University" , a disgusting act of greed for which he'll pay dearly for when GOD calls him:
P.S.: At least Bill was able to win an election and re-election without the help of Russian Spies and he NEVER instructed his voters to vote for an alleged child molester like Bozo did:
" without the help of our enemy Vladimir Putin who rigged the election, Donny Boy would probably be trying to open another "Trump University"
When will you stop making outrageous claims like this? There's no proof, none whatsoever, that the lame Russian attempts to interfere tilted the election results?
But no, this is merely sour grapes at having your candidate lose the election; you have to make up stuff about the Russians changing the outcome so you feel better about Clinton losing.
Face it Jake, Clinton lost fair and square, and she deserved to lose because Trump, the badly flawed man with orange hair, ran a better campaign. At least 2016 will be a lesson to the Democratic candidate of 2020: Don't take Trump for granted.
"little hands" trump can claim whatever he wants at this point and to tell you the truth, I really don't care, he and his pathetic children bore the hell out of me and I'm sure the overwhelming majority of Americans: But we do need to take his Angry mal-intended THREATS about SLASHING Social Security and Medicare and his explicit intent to destroy our healthcare system very seriously and we must MOBILIZE to Legally Protest and OBSTRUCT his insane motives designed to sabotage our institutions:
BTW: You should read this about Vladimir Putin's covert and overt inclinations to assist Mr. Trump in the 2016 election which is FACT:
"The Russian government interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election with the goal of harming the campaign of Hillary Clinton, boosting the candidacy of Donald Trump, and increasing political discord in the United States.:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_i … _elections
No, Jake, you dragged Hillary into the conversation, not I. You mad mention ("harlee01, Hillary beat "tiny hands" Trump by about 3 MILLION Votes."
I just pointed out the truth/ Trump won the election due to the electoral college. and the fact that the electoral college is the method we have used since 1803.
In regards to "child molester, Bill Clinton's name has been connected to many sex scandals, as well as Lolita Island... here is good proof he frequently visited the island. Facts are so hard to dispute Jake.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 … ltiple-lo/
https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-logs- … usly-known
Yet Trump has exhibited no crooked behavior? You must have blinders on. But then, you probably only watch Fox News. Trump is a disgrace to our country, an embarrassment who cozies up to dictators, and acts like a child, always throwing temper tantrums.
He still believes he's in the mob, that the AG and DOJ are supposed to protect him. They are supposed to be protecting US from him. He doesn't understand he is not a King and is not all powerful, and is too unintelligent to learn how the various offices work. He is not above the law, nor is his crazy family who shouldn't be in the WH.
You certainly assume a lot? You sound actually silly...
"He is not above the law, nor is his crazy family who shouldn't be in the WH."
No, he is not above the law. Although one would think if he or his family have broken any laws, they would have been prosecuted for their so-called crimes.
In regards to the AG. It's been reported president Trump will not see the Mueller report before it is handed to Congress and the public And it well appears he has not interfered with the DOJ in any respect. Not sure why you feel he has interfered with the operations in regard to the AG or DOJ?
I didn't say Trump interfered with the AG or DOJ. I said he mistakenly thinks their role is to be his personal lawyer and the same for DOJ. You misread what I wrote.
Even the Generals who served under Trump agreed his daughter and son in law should not be in the WH. And Mueller didn't make a conclusion yet about obstruction, that remains to be seen.
Plus the whole family is using their personal cell phones, like Hillary. He's still getting people to chant "lock her up" at those hate filled rallies. What a bunch of hyprocrites and sycophants the Republican Party has become.
MAGA (Make America Great Again) on a red hat: so bad. It makes you just want to knock it right off whomever is wearing it ... or punch the guy / gal.
Keep America Great... KAG
Would that be a better slogan for a red hat?
how about Go, America, Go!
Could I get away with wearing a red hat with the letters GAG on it?
Maybe an American flag hat: Stars and stripes, with the letters GAG.
Those hats might be safe to wear ...
... how about a red hat with the letters BLAH BLAH BLAH?
How about a red hat with a peace sign?
I like that. Red is an angry color though. I would go with something peaceful, like green or blue. Violet rules the crown chakra, so that's the most spiritual color of all.
I don't know how that fits in with a Presidential campaign. But I do think Trump has been an example of a bully and a mean spirited person.
By nationalism, Trump means patriotism, self-determination and protection of our nation.
He embraces ALL American citizens and those who enter legally.
There are many types of nationalism. People really shouldn't imagine more than what Trump actually means.
The facts prove the sentence you wrote is detached from the truth while in REALITY, a strange looking 72 year old elderly cult leader named Donald Trump who as we speak, with his little "MAGA" on, is sabotaging our health-care system, has devised an abominable plan to make gargantuan CUTS to our Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid programs, entitlements which our retired workers depend upon for their very survival, is constantly degrading our Military and law enforcement, has severely weakened our once great NATO Alliance and has publicly called upon our enemy to subvert an election and CONTINUES to side with Vladimir Putin over our own intelligence agencies which equates to an unprecedented cesspool of corruption at its absolute worst:
Not sure what you'd call this, but the vast majority of Americans and law enforcement agents understand it's certainly NOT a public action designed to protect the USA, as a matter of fact, this has done great harm to our global alliance: The only thing missing from this insane film clip as comrade Trump for some unknown reason, sides with Vladimir Putin is a little Russian Red "MAGA" hat:
Is sabotaging our health-care system. (An illegal, unconstitutional one.)
Cutting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid programs. (What about all the fraud? He wants to cut the fraud! Will congress work with him?)
Degrading our Military. (How so?)
Degrading law enforcement. (How is he doing that?)
Has severely weakened our NATO Alliance. (For good reason! The UN? Pleeeeze!)
Continues to side with Putin. (Proof please. He implemented the strongest sanctions AGAINST Russia.)
"NATO and the United Nations (UN) share a commitment to maintaining international peace and security. The two organisations have been cooperating in this area since the early 1990s, in support of peace-support and crisis-management operations. The complexity of today’s security challenges has required a broader dialogue between NATO and the UN. This has led to reinforced cooperation and liaison arrangements between the staff of the two organisations, as well as UN specialised agencies."
https://futurism.com/the-byte/reclassif … ganization
Breaking HUGE *******: Facebook BANS "Nationalists" from their Platform: I just HOPE Hubpages is taking note if they're interested in cleaning Up this site by restricting and or banning the nationalists here who maniacally propagate false narratives and moronic stories like questioning American Hero John McCain's patriotism and allegiance to the USA or other nonsense which calls climate change a HOAX:
FAKE Trump Style Trash hurts the USA and serves only to DILUTE the TRUTH and We are FED Up with these serial LIES, Falsehoods and Weirdly Nonsensical Conspiracy Trash we are subjected to on a constant basis from our oval office and his dwindling number of followers:
If Hupages is truly interested in longevity within the social media universe, it might want to take good look at these nationalists roaming their site constantly:
"Facebook bans white nationalism two weeks after New Zealand attack"
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/tech/fac … index.html
Facebook ban "white nationalism and separatism" You should read more closely. Actually, in my opinion, there is no one that promotes hate speech more than you on this forum. You constantly seek to insult others, and show little regard for anyone's opinion but your own.
" I just HOPE Hubpages is taking note if they're interested in cleaning Up this site by restricting and or banning the nationalists here who maniacally propagate false narratives and moronic stories like questioning American Hero John McCain's patriotism and allegiance to the USA or other nonsense which calls climate change a HOAX:"
I have never witnessed anyone on Hubpages promoting this kind of statement? Please provide the comments where you found such statements in regards to John McCain.
" If Hupages is truly interested in longevity within the social media universe, it might want to take good look at these nationalists roaming their site constantly:"
Perhaps Hubpages should concentrate on the kind of nonsensical rhetoric you post daily, and ask you to curb your insults of others. Free Speech is not yours alone Jake. Keep that in mind...
Most patriotic Americans are happy to see nationalists being banned from major social media sites:
"Nationalist Trash" and un-patriotic blabber can be observed on this site daily, and just because it appears as if some have become acclimated to it and perhaps they don't even recognize it anymore for what it truly is, just like we are forced to become acclimated to "Nationalist Donald's" INSANITY, Destructive CHAOS, HATE, Racism, Angry Outbursts and Incoherent Retardation, a 72 year old elderly idiot who is about to close our border and cause even MORE calamity, doesn't mean it doesn't exist:
Just off the top of my head I can recall a discussion asking if Great American Hero John MCcain was a "Traitor or Hero" which is nothing less than blasphemy, an idea I'm sure stoked by yellow belly Trump who never served a day in our military, and I saw at least one article which I'm sure to see more, calling "Climate Change" a HOAX which is also absurd and only to be conjured up in the tiny simple mind of a "nationalist'
""Nationalist Trash" and un-patriotic blabber can be observed on this site daily, and just because it appears as if some have become acclimated to it and perhaps they don't even recognize it anymore for what it truly is, just like we are forced to become acclimated to "Nationalist Donald's" "
Jake, you label people unjustly. You do it daily on this forum. You need to realize everyone has a right to their opinions. I have never seen any comments on this forum that have supported White Nationalist views.
"Just off the top of my head I can recall a discussion asking if Great American Hero John MCcain was a "Traitor or Hero" which is nothing less than blasphemy"
Please provide a link. Once again you disrespect others views. Some may not see "McCain as a hero. This is their right. Your opinion is just that your opinion. you do not have the right to insult others that don't have the same opinion. Again, I have not witnessed anyone insulting or disrespecting McCain or his patriotism. Please provide a source for your vile comment.
I am not sure why Hubpages put up with your comments. Could it be they have respect for freedom of speech... We all have views, opinions. Yours is not the last word...
It's very clear you do not use any form of facts to back up your views on any given subject. You just seek to provoke and insult others that post here.
The only question remaining is whether or not republican senators decide to stomp on their little red "MAGA" hats then join Democrats and DISPOSE of unhinged Donny via impeachment or indictment before he has the chance to DECIMATE and Destroy what little is remaining of their despicable careers in the 2020 election just as he DESTROYED the communist russian republicans in the house of representatives in the 2018 midterms:
Actually, you're wrong Sharlee01, nationalists do NOT have a right to spread their unjust FEAR, Hate, Racism, Crazy Isolationist Propaganda and race Purification Trash and Major Social Media Platforms such as Facebook are taking the lead in HALTING this nationalist insanity that Trumpty Dumpty and his little associates babble about almost daily from our oval office:
The examples of alt-right nationalist FALSE Narratives can be found in the discussion forums and articles written by the alt-right nationalists around here, they are plentiful and can be easily found and identified as such:
"The examples of alt-right nationalist FALSE Narratives can be found in the discussion forums and articles written by the alt-right nationalists around here, they are plentiful and can be easily found and identified as such"
I asked for one example. Should not be that hard to find one. Yet as always you offer nothing but more rhetoric... Jake, president Trump will be around 6 more years. It will be fun to remind you of the day after the next election that we the people have once again voted in a man of our choice. A man that keeps his promises.
Thousands of Mental Health Experts say Donald Trump is a very sick elderly man, and it seems like from his public behavior, he's never satisfied or at ease unless he's inflicting maximum agonizing pain on himself and this country, an intolerable nightmare of a political situation we involuntarily find ourselves in which is unacceptable to the overwhelming majority who didn't even vote for him:
Just in the past week or two this elderly nationalist elderly individual has scaled up his assault to destroy our Health-Care System and has actually threatened to close our southern border FOR WHAT Valid Reasons? FOR WHAT Purpose other than to cause maximum retarded Chaos & Havoc?
You may have become acclimated to this utter insanity but the overwhelming majority of citizens STILL see it for what it is, Shear MADNESS and unless senate republicans join Dems to REMOVE this abomination for the good of the nation, he'll surely decimate republicans senators and himself in 2020, unless of course he finds himself in prison long before then:
"Thousands of Mental Health Professionals Agree Trump is Dangerous"
https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/pa … -dangerous
I note that once again you are not addressing the subject. We were discussing your opinion in regards to your comen that nationalists are using Hubpages forum to spread Nationalism. I asked several times for you to give an example of any comment or Hubpage that would substantiate your claim. Instead, you as always when cornered change the subject and move on to another ridiculous unsubstantiated subject. I have no interest in discussing President Trump's mental status. The president just completed a complete health evaluation, I prefer to leave his mental status to the expert that actually evaluated his mental status.
Your comments speak loudly...
"If Hupages is truly interested in longevity within the social media universe, it might want to take good look at these nationalists roaming their site constantly: "
"The examples of alt-right nationalist FALSE Narratives can be found in the discussion forums and articles written by the alt-right nationalists around here, they are plentiful and can be easily found and identified as such"
"I saw at least one article which I'm sure to see more, calling "Climate Change" a HOAX which is also absurd and only to be conjured up in the tiny simple mind of a "nationalist'"
You disagree with those who believe man made global warming isn't real. So what? Defaming everyone that doesn't see things your way (and that's many) doesn't prove anything.
Besides, you've repeatedly ignored what others have pointed out about 'nationalism'. The word has broader meaning than the meaning you're attaching to it.
No comment on this denial of the facts and by the way Hxprof, despite what nationalist morons like Donald Trump babble about calling Climate Change a HOAX by China, it's real and the majority of SCIENTISTS not me, have determined we have very little time left to correct the course we're on or find ourselves in great peril:
What's the next line of babbling bs from Bozo Trump and his nationalists? The world is flat? The sun revolves around Earth? Oh yeah, that babbling HATE Filled Angry Psychotic bs about Mexicans, South Americans and his manufactured border crisis nonsense:
"the majority of SCIENTISTS not me, have determined we have very little time left to correct the course we're on or find ourselves in great peril:"
Possibly most, yes. But not all.
I'm glad there are folks opposing the lie of man made climate change/man made global warming.
Unfortunately Hxprof, your belief is directly in line with Bozo Trump's who seems to wallow around in a dark disturbing land of Delusion, Hallucination & Detachment from what's REAL and by not accepting the FACT that Climate Change is real and the debate has been over for decades which means we now must begin to take action to mitigate the deadly effects, that's just one reason WHY nationalists are being BANNED from major social media sites:
Oh and by the way, this babbling retard you might call "President" flopping around in our white house, well apparently he now believes his father who was actually born in New York was born in Germany and wind mills which provide clean green energy, also cause cancer: UNREAL, wheres the republican senate to HALT this INSANITY so we can salvage what's remaining of this ailing nation?
Of ALL the Foul, Vile, UGLY and Cowardly things this hat symbolizes, it also represents the creators SEVERE Retardation: And believe it or NOT, the creator has access to our oval office: UNREAL:
On the positive side of things, major social media sites are beginning to "BAN" nationalists, Clowny McTrump's little cowardly pals:
Just checking back in with you Jake to see if you've reconsidered your support for Ilhan Omar, seeing as she's been endorsed by David Duke?
I told you before Hxprof, I don't care about Omar, she has no power and it's irrelevant to this discussion which pertains to valid reasons WHY "MAGA" hats and "KAGA' hats should be BANNED and tossed into the waste basket:
Nationalists like many around here, are finally being BANNED from the most prominent and important social media sites and search engines: Pretty soon, if Hubpages doesn't wake up, this will be the only site left where nationalists can congregate with impunity and spread their HATE, Racism, Misogyny, Fascist & Communist proclivities and spew anti-American propaganda and nonsense calling Climate Change a HOAX, Saying Windmills cause cancer, Immigrants are coming to get YOU etc etc
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