Madness

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  1. abwilliams profile image55
    abwilliamsposted 3 months ago

    https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/14733830.jpg
    This picture came up in my newsfeed this morning. At first glance, it looks like a picture from a Saturday Night Live skit or the case of a man making the wrong turn and ending up on the women’s podium by mistake.
    BUT, it is neither of those things, it is VERY REAL!
    When does this madness end? Will it...can it?

    1. Em Clark profile image98
      Em Clarkposted 3 months agoin reply to this

      What does this have to do with Hubpages tutorials?

    2. Em Clark profile image98
      Em Clarkposted 3 months agoin reply to this

      Never mind I see this is in free form discussion.

    3. Titia profile image92
      Titiaposted 3 months agoin reply to this

      What's your problem?

      1. abwilliams profile image55
        abwilliamsposted 3 months agoin reply to this

        No problem, posted in the wrong place and now I can not make it go away to share it elsewhere.

        1. Titia profile image92
          Titiaposted 3 months agoin reply to this

          I mean, what's your problem with the photo and what do you mean by 'When does this madness end? '

          1. abwilliams profile image55
            abwilliamsposted 3 months agoin reply to this

            The picture isn't self explanatory?

            1. Titia profile image92
              Titiaposted 3 months agoin reply to this

              No, not for me. I just see three people who've won.a cycling contest and are happy about it.

              You're the one who's trying to make it look different.

          2. theraggededge profile image98
            theraggededgeposted 3 months agoin reply to this

            It's a women's cycling event (I think) and a trans woman won it. There is much controversy around this topic at the moment because biological women say they can't compete with trans women on a level playing field, s'cuse the pun.

            1. Titia profile image92
              Titiaposted 3 months agoin reply to this

              I know what it is.

              1. abwilliams profile image55
                abwilliamsposted 3 months agoin reply to this

                Since this is still here, in the wrong forum, Titia….I see women being set back 100 years. I see women's sports screwed up for future generations, it's already happening. Women are losing scholarships, aren't qualifying for major races, in some cases after training and working their entire life toward their sports career...whichever that may be!
                I'm glad you're okay with this, I'm not and although I know I am supposed to be silent and just accept the unacceptable, whatever goes, goes...I'm not made that way.

  2. abwilliams profile image55
    abwilliamsposted 3 months ago

    You are right, I have it in the wrong place. Thank you.

  3. abwilliams profile image55
    abwilliamsposted 3 months ago

    I am searching for the right place.

    1. greenmind profile image96
      greenmindposted 3 months agoin reply to this

      Did you post this because you know the people/sport involved and want to comment on their lives?

  4. abwilliams profile image55
    abwilliamsposted 3 months ago

    No, I posted it because I am a woman and this pisses me off.

    1. theraggededge profile image98
      theraggededgeposted 3 months agoin reply to this
      1. abwilliams profile image55
        abwilliamsposted 3 months agoin reply to this

        Thanks, I got sidetracked and when I got around to removing it, there were commments!

        1. theraggededge profile image98
          theraggededgeposted 3 months agoin reply to this

          You can report your original comment as being 'wrong forum topic' and the mods will move it.

          1. abwilliams profile image55
            abwilliamsposted 3 months agoin reply to this

            Thanks, done.

  5. abwilliams profile image55
    abwilliamsposted 3 months ago

    It probably has something to do with this crappy, dated phone I am trying to work with.

  6. Doneta Wrate profile image90
    Doneta Wrateposted 3 months ago

    I agree with you abwilliams.  Even if a man thinks he is a woman, he is still built like a man, making his competition against women unequal and unfair.    I do not think this should be allowed.

    1. abwilliams profile image55
      abwilliamsposted 3 months agoin reply to this

      Exactly Doneta....it's "unequal and unfair". Women should be up in arms, not out saying things like, "they're happy." The women he beat out don't look happy. Does their happiness not count?
      This isn't SPORT, it isn't fair play/equal treatment...far from it.

      1. wilderness profile image96
        wildernessposted 3 months agoin reply to this

        I've seen suggestions that any transgender only be allowed to compete after a year or so of hormonal treatments.  It sounded reasonable.

        Until I also saw reports that such treatments are insufficient.  They won't change skeletal formations or size and even the expected reduction in muscle mass (male to female) is not guaranteed.  Bottom line: biological males should not be allowed to compete in contests reserved for biological females regardless of how they view their gender.  Or the reverse, for that matter.

        1. abwilliams profile image55
          abwilliamsposted 3 months agoin reply to this

          There are also reports of the long term effect of utilizing hormonal treatment; such as regret, depression and suicidal thoughts, but that's another topic for another day!

          I agree with you wilderness.
          It is better left alone.

          1. viryabo profile image94
            viryaboposted 3 months agoin reply to this

            Absolutely.

    2. wilderness profile image96
      wildernessposted 3 months ago

      Had a short discussion the other night with friends on this topic.  Question: if we ban males from competing in female sports, aren't we virtually required to ban females from male sports?  I've seen females competing in a high school wrestling team, I see women trying out for the NFL (a really good place kicker) and others - do we ban then from competing, sometimes when the male sport is the only one available?

      Or do we give women a "bye", and only discriminate against males wanting to compete in female sports?  If we don't go totally coed on all sports competitions how do we justify allowing one sex to join the other but not vice versa?

      1. abwilliams profile image55
        abwilliamsposted 3 months agoin reply to this

        Great points. If we are going to continue on this path, there is no other way than coed. There can no longer be giving women a pass on testing for the fire department or the Marines or the football field...if this is the way it is going to be, we must be fair across the board.
        As of now, many male wrestlers refuse to wrestle females and you mentioned the female kicker. There has been chatter that male players will not treat her the same. It will change the game of football. Get used to it men.
        Everything has to change, even mindsets!
        Maybe women will take over wrestling and weight lifting by default and have at least two sports to themselves.

    3. abwilliams profile image55
      abwilliamsposted 3 months ago

      Never mind that last paragraph, that can’t happen, I have to change my mindset.

      1. wilderness profile image96
        wildernessposted 3 months agoin reply to this

        But you are correct, IMO.  If we are to continue of this path the only answer is coed sports in all cases...which will absolutely destroy women athletes.  It is a rare woman that can compete with a male (of the same standing among his peers) and win any physical competition.

        1. abwilliams profile image55
          abwilliamsposted 3 months agoin reply to this

          I will never forget this...in my younger years, I was a fast runner, I went around challenging everyone to a foot race, I beat everyone, could never be caught, there was no competition, must have gotten a little cocky about it. My Dad (who I had never seen run...EVER; he who had a beer belly to boot) challenged me to a foot race. I figured it could be close, but I would win out in the end. He beat me like a drum, left me in his dust, it was no contest. I learned a valuable lesson that day about humility.

    4. Doneta Wrate profile image90
      Doneta Wrateposted 3 months ago

      If there are female kickers in football, are they gong to give them their own locker room.  Can you imagine how a woman football player would be treated changing clothes and showering in a male dominated locker room?  Even women sports reporters have a hard time in the football locker room.  This is womens lib going too far.

      1. abwilliams profile image55
        abwilliamsposted 3 months agoin reply to this

        Good questions Doneta, which brings me to another question...where are the feminists? Why are they silent on this?

     
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