Is this a winning issue for AOC?

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   jackclee lmposted 5 years ago

   Attacking the NYPD...

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      jackclee lmposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Check out this story...
      https://nypost.com/2019/11/03/aoc-tweet … oklyn/amp/

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         Hxprofposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Lawlessness.

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      Carolyn M Fieldsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      “A United States representative says if you cannot afford something you should steal and police should not arrest you if it is not expensive,” said user Carmine Sabia.
      
      This line says it all.

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         wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Which is why theft, from shoplifting to smashing a car window for a package inside, has become so prevalent.  There are very few of us that haven't suffered a theft sometime in our lives, and likely more than a few times.

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            Eastwardposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I've had it happen to me, unfortunately. I also witnessed it happening to my neighbor. I pulled up to my house after dark and noticed the car in front of my neighbor's house full of people and jerking motions in the front seat. I stepped out and took a few steps closer and the doors flew open as they fled. I took chase after them, no idea what I would've done one-on-one with 5 guys had I caught up. Luckily, so I thought, I found police around the corner near our local gas station/convenience store. After I told them what happened, they snapped to attention and rolled out to do their duty within about 30 minutes. Not surprisingly, the thieves hadn't stopped to wait for them. I hope some of you have better police departments, but ours seems to avoid real crime at all costs and stick to the low-hanging, revenue-generating fruit. It sickens me to know the public are paying the salaries, benefits, and settlements of these slackers while they are stolen from without much more than a shrug.

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               wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Petty theft is not high on the radar for police.  My son had someone break into his home and steal wallets from the bedside tables, inches from them as they slept.  Stole a video game and several discs as well as other stuff. 
               
               Police dusted for fingerprints, but that was it.  No investigation was ever conducted that we know of.  The son's wallet was eventually found in a nearby park by a neighbor and returned; pretty neat as it has his irreplaceable military id in it, but nothing on the purse from his wife.
               
               I get it that there are far more serious crimes going on than a stolen wallet, from murder to rape to child abuse, but I also think we are making a major mistake when we simply write off these smaller things as not worth our effort.  It has given rise to the necessity of home security, the inability to leave anything in a parked car and an overall feeling of fear and insecurity everywhere we go.  And the total countrywide has to be in the billions every year - certainly enough to hire more cops.

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                  Eastwardposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Sorry to hear about the case of your son and his wife. I get that in many areas, there are a lot more serious crimes at the top of the list that need to be addressed. In my area though, home and vehicle break-ins are much more serious than what the seemingly more than ample police force is spending their time on (pulling people over for seat-belt violations and the like). The problem seems to be a lack of reasonable priorities from management, rather than a lack of personnel. Of course, each city, county, state, etc. is different.

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                     wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Well, I suppose it's hard for police to put a high priority on such things when our courts will give a small fine and turn them loose to do it again.  How many shoplifters, for instance, do any time at all, let alone something to drive home the point that they can't DO that?

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                        Eastwardposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        Then you get into flooded court systems and jails/prisons. It seems it's all about making money for the right people and very little to do with what's "right" or "wrong". As subjective as this can be, I'm confident we could do a lot better job than we are. Criminal justice and policing systems are long overdo for structural reform, but as usual, the people benefiting won't let go of a cash cow easily. The police shrug their shoulders about hundreds or thousands of home and auto break-ins but if they think there's a marijuana seed stuck to the bottom of somebody's shoe in a house, they suddenly have resources for month long stakeouts and SWAT teams. So much waste and so little respect for the well-being of the citizens.

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                           wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Yes, marijuana has been a major priority.  At least that's dying out some.
                           
                           But mostly I think we're making a major mistake by ignoring the little things, the place where it all starts for far too many.  Allow that to happen and it inevitably grows.

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                              Eastwardposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                              True. It seems at least some of the country is putting "reefer madness" behind them. Hopefully that's a sign that things are starting to move in the right direction. Moving away from the militarized police vs. citizen mentality will help all parties involved and help us start to mend our communities. If we're viewing everyone as fallible humans rather than enemy targets, we can start to catch people that start to go astray and bring them back into the fold of productive members of society.

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                                 wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                 Not until we decide that the purpose of incarceration is rehabilitation, and work towards that goal.  As long as it remains punishment we will never succeed in bringing those people back, at least not in large numbers.

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                                    Eastwardposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                    An important point and I couldn't agree more.

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