Democratic Debate - Weds. 2/19

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   GA Andersonposted 4 years ago

   I am in the midst of the debate. Holy cow, what a slugfest.
   
   My impression:
   
   The big loser; Bloomberg. Of course, he is being attacked, but, he is not up to the task. He looks like and is responding like, a deer in your headlights. I certainly expected more. So far, (half-way through), he is not up to the task.
   
   My highlight; Klobuchar, admitting she had a lapse regarding not being able to name the Mexican president. The best line, to paraphrase, Klobuchar; we should all want a president who is willing to admit a lapse or a mistake."
   
   Klobuchar and Buttigieg are really slugging it out.
   
   Warren is also doing well, although not scoring any significant points. Her responses are sensible and valid to the point of the questions.
   
   Sanders . . . meh, Sanders is being Sanders. Nothing new or impressive. Looked bad on transparency, (medical records), and his Medicare-for-all funding.
   
   Biden: held his ground, but I didn't see any big blows or impressive points.
   
   Winners: Klobuchar, Buttigieg, Warren.
   
   Losers:
   
   Bloomberg. He was attacked and did not offer valid counter-arguments. A very poor debate impression.
   
   Sanders - same ol' same ol'
   
   Biden: not really a loser other than he wasn't a winner.
   
   And now, the second half . . .
   
   Oops update: Sanders says Bloomberg is immoral for becoming a billionaire. Bloomberg worked for his wealth. He did not gain his wealth through 'hook or crook'.He did not inherit it and was not given it, yet Sanders says he is immoral for having it. Holy cow folks, Really?
   
   Blow-by-blow: Bloomberg just scored—Sanders left him an opening to bring up . . . COMMUNISM
   
   Well damn! Finally a debate I was glad to watch. The gloves were off and we saw some truths. Klobuchar and Buttigieg really went at each other.
   
   GA

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      PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I didn't see Buttiegieg as a winner. To me, he came across as a  polished lightweight in over his  head. I don't have time right now  to expand but I thought the winners were Sanders, Warren, and Klobuchar with Bloomberg the big loser. He actually gave me the creeps.

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         GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         ". . . a  polished lightweight in over his  head."
         
         I don't know how hard I would want to disagree with that. I was thinking more along the lines of a Minor league player trying to break into the Big league.
         
         Of course, it is my anti-Sanders bias that placed him in the loser column, my Buttigieg bias that placed him above Warren.
         
         GA

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            Ken Burgessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I believe the most likely ticket as of now is Bernie & Warren.  They have similar beliefs so their partnering up makes sense.
            
            Biden no chance, Buttiegieg no chance, Klobuchar I'm not sure how she got as far as she has... Bloomberg is an outside chance no matter how poorly he does onstage or how the media attacks him (heck that will only help his cause) I don't think the American people think less of any politician or political body more than they do the MSM.   His billions will take him all the way to the end, long after Biden and Buttiegieg have been knocked aside.

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            PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I like Mayor Pete but I  prefer Warren, Klobuchar, or Sanders.

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            Credence2posted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Of course, it is my anti-Sanders bias that placed him in the loser column, my Buttigieg bias that placed him above Warren.
            
            Well, GA, it is your preference for the "Status Quo" to allow you entertain the performance of the moderate candidates against Warren and Sanders. But, you have to admit Bloomberg did come off as a dud. If he were really on top of his game, anyone could have anticipated such a confrontation within the debate environment in advance. Why was he not prepared?
            
            Yes, I am worried about the extent of spending that would be necessary to address Sanders programs. I am looking into it.

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               GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               I think Bloomberg looked as bad as was possible. I wasn't expecting him to survive unbloodied, but I was expecting a better performance.
               
               Regarding Sanders' M4A, (Medicare-for-all), costs, if you want a brain-buster and some extra work, checkout Eastward's link in the CNN Town Hall thread. ;-)
               
               GA

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   Onusonusposted 4 years ago

   

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   IslandBitesposted 4 years ago

   I didn't watched it, just some clips. But everywhere I read, they have Warren as the winner.
   
   She destroyed him. LOL
   
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47Ze1eyvZIo
   
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8mj_Rhfy_A
   
   Savage

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      PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, Warren came to fight and I'm glad she took on Bloomberg in such a blunt manner. It disgusts me that this smug billionaire can  gain so much support by spending millions on TV ads. I hope his rise  is soft and will deflate quickly now that he is being scrutinized.
      
      Warren is still my favorite and I'm glad to see her back in fighting form.

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         Credence2posted 4 years agoin reply to this

         I am troubled that Warren in telling Bloomberg what time it was does not get the credit that she deserves but that exchange will more than likely improve Bernie's standing.

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      GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Bloomberg's whole night went that way.
      
      GA

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