Joe Biden Wins S. Carolina - Big time

Jump to Last Post 1-5 of 5 discussions (25 posts)
  1. GA Anderson profile image82
    GA Andersonposted 4 years ago

    It appears Biden has won S, Carolina by a huge margin, and will get the majority of delegates. Maybe even enough to surpass Sanders.

    It seems Steyer has a decision to make—stay in as a spoiler or get out and endorse one of the moderates. Unfortunately, (in my view), the same is true for Klobuchar. Buttigieg seems to be on the edge, enough to stay the course, but not realistically so.

    I know Buttigieg's decision could be put off until after Super Tuesday, (I am hopeful for him), but what do you think about Steyer and Klobuchar?

    What do you think Biden's big win could mean for his campaign? All the pundits are talking about Biden being out of money and that there isn't enough time before Super Tuesday for him to capitalize on his S. Carolina win and fundraise what he needs to compete in the Super Tuesday states—advertising-wise. (of course, Bloomberg's bottomless advertising budget was the point of those perspectives)

    Do you think they are right, will Biden suffer because he can't match the advertising budgets of his competitors?

    GA

    1. Eastward profile image72
      Eastwardposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I just heard Steyer's speech and I think he's out, GA. He said basically that he would stay in as long as he saw a path to the presidency, but now, he doesn't see that path forward.

      If I were a centrist/moderate, I would want the other candidates to drop out and back Biden to challenge Sanders (and send some funding/donors his way). Since I'm not, I'm happy for as many as them to stay in the race as possible and divide the vote.

      1. GA Anderson profile image82
        GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        It s early, after the S. Carolina results, and I have heard that Steyers has bowed out, but I didn't hear him say so.

        However, I do think tonight's results have been a big boost for Biden, regardless of the 'yeah buts.'

        GA

        1. Eastward profile image72
          Eastwardposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Looks like the media is taking that speech as his official bow out:
          https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl … 66896.html

          And yes, I won't argue that the SC results are good for Biden (I'll halt further commentary and allow you a moment of celebration if you are celebrating a Biden win).

          1. GA Anderson profile image82
            GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Ha! My only celebration would be for the impact on Sanders' momentum.

            GA

            1. Credence2 profile image80
              Credence2posted 4 years agoin reply to this

              Don't get too overconfident yet. It's a big country and Biden is still out of touch. I don't think that the winds are blowing in his favor over the long term.

              1. Randy Godwin profile image60
                Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                Tuesday may give us a hint as to Biden's chances I think.

              2. GA Anderson profile image82
                GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                I am far from overconfident. I am not even confident. But, because I am obviously anti-Bernie does not mean I am pro-Biden in any respect other than his effect on Sanders.

                GA

                1. Credence2 profile image80
                  Credence2posted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  Let us in on a secret, who would YOU find acceptable in the Democratic ranks right now? Buttigieg and Klobenar are still in the running, as moderates would you find them less offensive? How about Bloomberg?

                  The Democratic Party found in a schism is just another Trump vote.

                  1. Eastward profile image72
                    Eastwardposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                    Well, Credence. You know the centrists and moderates seem a lot more comfortable with protecting the 1% than they do helping the less fortunate. So really, a Red Trump win or a Blue Trump (Bloomberg) win is just as good in that respect wink

                  2. GA Anderson profile image82
                    GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                    I know I would vote for Buttigieg or Klobuchar. I would not vote for Sanders, Warren*, or Bloomberg.

                    Warren is only in that list because I don't think she has the presidential character I want to vote for. I think she is a mechanic, and possibly a very good and knowledgeable one, but I want a leader, I don't see that in her. She might make a good VP for Biden.

                    I could find Biden acceptable, but not a preference.

                    So there is the bullseye. How's your aim? ;-)

                    GA

            2. Eastward profile image72
              Eastwardposted 4 years agoin reply to this

              Ouch, I give you a moment of celebration on Biden and you go right for the jugular, GA. Very centrist/moderate of you. Haha. Expect no mercy after the Super Tuesday results:

              https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll … day.html#!

              1. GA Anderson profile image82
                GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                You nailed me Eastward. I am very much a Moderate/Centrist. If there were such a thing as a Moderate Progressive I might even fit that mold. But in these times there is no room for such an animal in our politics.

                Now that Buttigieg has suspended his campaign, and I expect the same from Klobuchar—barring a Super Tuesday miracle, I will be left without a preferred candidate and will have to settle for an acceptable one. ;-)

                GA

                1. Eastward profile image72
                  Eastwardposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  Well, I had to laugh during a discussion with a European friend of mine (while evaluating Sanders' proposed tax brackets) when he said that Sanders is too far right for him. He was somewhat joking, but also taking a jab at how far right the entire U.S. political spectrum has moved. In international terms, we start at the center and move right with no candidates on a true left.

                  I would agree with you that Klobuchar is unlikely to be the benefactor of a Super Tuesday miracle and will likely drop out after that. I'm hoping you find an acceptable candidate and from reading the other comments in this thread, at least it looks like it won't be Bloomberg (much to your credit).

                  1. GA Anderson profile image82
                    GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                    Thanks, I need all the "credit" I can get. If Bloomberg is the alternative to Sanders, then my vote will be a write-in.

                    GA

  2. Randy Godwin profile image60
    Randy Godwinposted 4 years ago

    Yep, Steyers hit the trail, Gus.
    Tuesday may tell the tale though.

  3. Valeant profile image76
    Valeantposted 4 years ago

    With Buttigieg out, Klobuchar should follow him to clear the lane for Biden.  Bloomberg took a shot, but not sure he's going to catch Biden either.

  4. IslandBites profile image93
    IslandBitesposted 4 years ago

    Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) is ending her presidential campaign and endorsing former Vice President Joe Biden.

    1. GA Anderson profile image82
      GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      The talking heads are saying Buttigieg will endorse Biden too—tonight.

      GA

      1. IslandBites profile image93
        IslandBitesposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Hunter Biden (again) in 3, 2, 1...

        1. Valeant profile image76
          Valeantposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Smears, fears  and insults are the only weapons Trump employs.  Three more reasons he will never get my vote.

  5. profile image0
    Onusonusposted 4 years ago

    https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/87609668_1343712225834809_7137326650483539968_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=lLMMagF1IO4AX9HCbZj&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=2081e39c5078c519c974606844fd7f30&oe=5E81ECA8

 
working

This website uses cookies

As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: https://corp.maven.io/privacy-policy

Show Details
Necessary
HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
Features
Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
Marketing
Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
Statistics
Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)
ClickscoThis is a data management platform studying reader behavior (Privacy Policy)