Many of you may have read this news blurb today:
"The no-fly list failed to keep the Times Square suspect off the plane. Faisal Shahzad had boarded a jetliner bound for the United Arab Emirates Monday night before federal authorities pulled him back."
That's right the New York bombing suspect bought a ticket and walked right past airport security.
Can the Government do anything right? I mean besides harrass law abiding citizens with increased restrictions. Seems the "Bad Guys" are not getting stopped anywhere.
Surprisingly enough the plane had not left taken off so they did get him inside the plane.
From what I gleaned off of the boob tube there is a 48 hour period of time when a person is listed on the "No Fly" list. The TSA would not know of a terrorist trying to board the plane.
The secondary back up of someone buying a one way ticket with cash to the middle east was picked up by another agency. I am not sure but it might have been Homeland Security that picked this up.
I agree that this loop hole should be closed as soon as possible.
No, the government can't do anything right, government is manned by incompetents from the highest to the lowest levels.
But on the bright side they aren't in charge of health care.
*does a double take* Why do I get the creepy feeling I've read this thread already???
You'll understand after you read a lot of Mike's postings.
So what you are saying is that the fact that they caught the guy before he got away is a sign that they failed to ... catch him?
I'm not sure I'm following you.
I do know that the government has been painfully remiss in developing crystal ball technology and they have failed in the psi-ops department on any real scale. I hear the CIA is working on an advanced tea-leaf reading project and the Pentagon leaked information the other day on it's new Department of Phrenology (DoP) for which they have high hopes.
Did Airport know the identity of the Times Square bomber? I would think (having a background in Law Enforcement) that the NYPD would have alerted Airport Security all over the country of the identity of who they were looking for, are you saying that they didn't?
Just asking, I don't know the answer, but you are aware that the police are a part of government, aren't you?
So government screwed the pooch no matter how you look at it!
Either they screwed the pooch or they waited until the last minute to see who he called, who he sat with, who he nodded to on the plane.
The point is they knew who they were looking for... and he walked right passed security. The fact that they did finally catch up with him is one of luck... the plane had not taken off yet.
So what good are security check points?
There is a failure rate in most things. The question is whether or not the failure rate in airport security is high. I think it's fair to say the airport security, despite its bunglings, has prevented terrorist activities. But again, to what degree, I'm not sure, nor am I sure of the failure rate.
Anyone got any numbers to back all this up?
Just wondering.
Look, you have to understand something. Obama is very intent on making peace in the Middle East. So he doesn't want to offend anybody there including terrorists. Further, terrorists will only retaliate if any of their own is treated harshly.
And Obama is the perfect foil to broker a peace there. He's claimed to be Christian yet has a Muslim background, and has vowed to extinguish the "ugly American" stigma that has dogged this country.
So Shazad will be tried in a civil court and portrayed as a victim of circumstance. He will get a few months' community service and then sent back to Pakistan where he'll be treated as royalty.
Obama is hoping there will be more terrorists here, so he can demonstrate to the Muslim world that America is a peaceful and generous nation.
Let's see. The perp attempts to bamb Times Square. The police (part of the gubmint) as you say, identifies the perp in less than 2 days, and arrests him. Pretty amzing work, I would say.
The police were tipped when the guy bought the ticket for cash, and they DID stop him before he got out of US jurisdiction. But no success is so great that Mike won't try to put a bad spin on it.
The "perp"?
Have I stumbled into an episode of Starsky and Hutch?
"perp"?
Excuse me while I fall out of my chair laughing.
Why didn't you use Criminal minds "UNSUB"
That would have been cool.
The guy should be shot, but he'll live and terrorists everywhere will know that there are lax penalties in America for mass murder attempts.
I took a pic with my camera I wish I could get online. It's an old man getting searched by security. You can see the cane he's holding up in the air while they pat him down. Airport security! HA!!
Unfortunatly law enforcement can be lapse...take the recent events in Memphis TN. A convictited murderer was allowed to walk out of the courtroom while taking a bathroom break.
Recaptured several days later he was released "Accidentilly" back into society again.
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