Good Bye Freedom

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   MikeNVposted 12 years ago

   Just more of the same... using Terrosim to REMOVE the remaining freedoms of Americans. Liberman is a pathetic excuse for a Senator.
   
   There is NO reason to shut down the internet for anything other than Martial Law so the United States Government can steam roll it's own people.
   
   The Internet is a vital source of information decemination in a time of crisis.
   
   This is very scary!
   
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   Internet 'Kill Switch' Proposed For President
   
   Updated: Friday, 18 Jun 2010, 12:03 PM EDT
   Published : Friday, 18 Jun 2010, 12:03 PM EDT
   
   (CANVAS STAFF REPORTS) - A new bill introduced in the Senate would give the president the equivalent of an Internet "kill switch" if passed. The concept has some communications companies hoping that legislators would rather kill the bill.
   
   The bill is known as the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act. See the proposed legislation [PDF format] .
   
   CNET , a publication that covers computers and the Internet, reported that the bill would give the president emergency powers to seize control of or shut down portions of the Internet.
   
   Broadband providers, search engines, software firms and other similar companies would be required to "immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed" by the Department of Homeland Security. Failing to comply would lead to a fine.
   
   CNET stated that primary sponsor Sen. Joe Lieberman, chairman of the Homeland Security committee, introduced the bill on Thursday.
   
   According to the Huffington Post , it would create a new agency within the Department of Homeland Security named the National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications. Any private company reliant on "the Internet, the telephone system or any other component of the U.S. information infrastructure" would be "subject to command" by the agency.
   
   Some would have to share information with the NCCC.
   
   The Escapist Magazine quoted Lieberman as saying the act would let the government "preserve those networks and assets and our country and protect our people."
   
   "For all of its 'user-friendly' allure, the Internet can also be a dangerous place with electronic pipelines that run directly into everything from our personal bank accounts to key infrastructure to government and industrial secrets," the senator said. "Our economic security, national security and public safety are now all at risk from new kinds of enemies - cyber-warriors, cyber-spies, cyber-terrorists and cyber-criminals."
   
   The Huffington Post said that TechAmerica, a technology lobbying group, and other groups are warning of the "potential for absolute power" and "unintended consequences that would result from the legislation's regulatory approach."
   
   ZD Net reported that there is a paragraph in the bill that states the NCCC could not order broadband providers or other companies to "conduct surveillance" of Americans unless there's another way to legally authorize it.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 12 years ago

   We already discussed this on another thread.
   
   I agree, Lieberman is pathetic. Does not mean this will pass...

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   Flightkeeperposted 12 years ago

   Well if he does sign the bill, it'll prove to a lot of people that he's a fascist.  Controlling a country's information medium should be obvious to everyone.  But then, Democrats can be really thick.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 12 years ago

   This is what I posted in the other thread
   
   "the Obama administration pointedly stopped short of endorsing Lieberman's bill, called the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act (PCNAA)"
   
   http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20007851-38.html
   
   And Lieberman is not a democrat...

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      Doug Hughesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I seem to remember he was McCain's wing man in the campaign.

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         MikeNVposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         McCain is a flip/flopping fraud.  He is in fact Lieberman's buddy. He's a follower, not a leader.  He will take any position that makes him seem like he is doing something.
         
         Just go back to Savings and Loan Scandal.
         
         http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm
         
         How does McCain keep getting re-elected?

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   Me, Steve Waltersposted 12 years ago

   Bye Freedom! What will they try next to screw up this country...and/or the planet...or whatever else they can get their hands on. Stay tuned next week...and watch Washington D.C. find the next diabolical thing they can implement...'cause God knows everything is running so smooth...that you have to search real hard to find new things that need fixing!

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   KFlippinposted 12 years ago

   Was not there something from the past few days, while we are all distracted by the oil spill, about a move from the FCC to make the internet a 'telecommunications' method like the phone, and thus subject to fed conrol?  Something along those lines, I'm quite sure, and can't say it was surprising.

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   TinaMarieTadposted 12 years ago

   One more thing in Obama's radical agenda to check off of his list..
   
   Next comes martial law!

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      Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Did you even read the previous postings?

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         TinaMarieTadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Ummm..YES..
         
         It is still one of the things on Obama's radical agenda regardless of whom brings it to the table..
         
         Were you around during the campaign to see that this was something Obama wanted to do before he came into office and could make it a "homeland security"? Obama also has the  plans to change and control journalism..
         
         Leiberman was democrat and turned independant when his own party would not support him...

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            Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I repeat:
            
            "the Obama administration pointedly stopped short of endorsing Lieberman's bill, called the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act (PCNAA)"

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               cosetteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               
               
               
               
               so? why not just come out publicly against it and say "no, Joe, what country do you think this is, North Korea?" or something like that.
               
               there were all kinds of people in Nazi Germany who "stopped short" of killing people. they just politely looked the other way when the footsoldiers did it.
               
               ever since the President took office many of our freedoms are being quietly nibbled away but "it's not actually OBAMA who's doing it".
               
               riiight....

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   Uninvited Writerposted 12 years ago

   So now he is to blame for proposals made by independent senators?
   
   And it's not just a Democratic or Republic idea, or an independent idea.
   
   "The idea of an Internet "kill switch" that the president could flip is not new. A draft Senate proposal that CNET obtained in August allowed the White House to "declare a cybersecurity emergency," and another from Sens. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.V.) and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) would have explicitly given the government the power to "order the disconnection" of certain networks or Web sites. "

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      tony0724posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      But it seems to me we the people should have some input on this matter ! Not just two Senators.

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   tony0724posted 12 years ago

   Guys if you think things could not get worse , just take a look at Bill HR 5175 that the wicked witch of the west Nancy Pelosi is trying to get through right now. It has censorship of Democrat criticism written all over it. George Orwell and Huxley were right in their vision of the future !

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    Uninvited Writerposted 12 years ago

    

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       TinaMarieTadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       

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    lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

    Lieberman's loyalty is not to the USA, nor with anyone's freedom.
    
    We've already given our country away.
    Happened long ago if you ask me.

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       Sab Ohposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       "Lieberman's loyalty is not to the USA, nor with anyone's freedom."
       
       
       What a completely rational statement...

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    Rafiniposted 12 years ago

    Okay, well, I enjoy using the internet but don't really enjoy my information being out there without my consent...(banks, credit info, every time I use my debit/credit card or write a check, my address - you can't do any of these things without it going over the internet)
    
    Who owns the rights to the Internet anyway?  Is it the US?  Does anyone own the internet?  If it isn't the US, then how can the US shut down a World Wide Web of information?  The US doesn't have the right to tell France 'the internet is not to be used at this time' - or does the US have that right? 
    
    This is crazy!  Does anyone know the answers? 

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       tony0724posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I wish I did. And you are righ this is crazy and reeks of martial law !

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    donotfearposted 12 years ago

    I haven't heard of this one. What's the deal with Leiberman?

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       tony0724posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       What's the deal with the whole lot of them ?

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    lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

    Ask yourself who owns the whole lot of them.
    
    Not all of them though, I would bet. But then, you never know...
    
    If they and WE cared about America, we would not be where we are now.
    
    And all the stupid rah rah sh*t has got to go. How stupid is it to think you are perfect?

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