Aparrantly the Scots don't like England using the British national anthem in sporting events like the world cup. They stopped using it for the Scottish team a few years ago, replacing it with a Scottish national anthem, and now some English people are also calling for us to get our own national anthem.
According to the daily politics on BBC today an online poll has put 'Jerusalem' as the front runner. Here's the lyrics:
And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountains green
And was the holy lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen
And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among those dark Satanic mills
Bring me my bow of burning gold
Bring me my arrows of desire
Bring me my spears o'clouds unfold
Bring me my chariot of fire
I will not cease from mental fight
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
'Til we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land
'Til we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land
What do you think about an English national anthem, and about using this song?
I class myself as Scottish and British.I think England should have their own anthem to celebrate being English.I don,t have any problem if they prefer using the national anthem but think it should only be used for what it is the British national anthem.
thanks selrach, I see where you are coming from, but I guess I feel a bit like we used to be British first, and then Scottish, English, Welsh and Northern Irish. Bbut now the Scots and Welsh see it the other way around. I feel a bit sad that Britain is becoming increasingly irrelvant and that things like this make it seem more and more like there is a momentum building for us to end up going our separate ways.
If we each have our own national anthem, our own parliament, and all the rest, then whats the point in Britain any more? I doubt if we will actually break up like the SNP want, but I can see a situation in 20 years time where the prime minister of Britain is like the president of Europe - someone hardly anyone knows and even fewer people care about working in a purely administrative role that doesn't really matter.
Jerusalem is a beautiful song and easy for most people to sing. I think it would be a great choice.
Being British and English I've always considered Land of Hope and Glory as an unofficial English National anthem.
Although I just realized - it's the droll God Save Our Gracious Queen that causes such a dismal England performances so we need something upbeat. How about Tubthumping's "I get knocked down" - seems perfect LOL
Seriously though - Land of Hope and Glory has my vote!
It's much better than that dull dirge "God Save the Queen", so it gets my vote on that basis alone.
I listened, sang and conducted this song several times during my stay in England in the mid 70's. I quite love it. However, if this were proposed in the US, it wouldn't stand a chance with all the religious references.
There has been a movement off and on to replace our own US national Anthem with "God Bless America." It's also a favorite of the people, but as usual, several small, noisy factions kill the idea quickly.
It will be interesting to see where this one goes in Britain.
Going slightly off topic. I remembered this old Billy Connelly video about the national anthem.Very funny.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q … m&aq=f
thought it was land of hope and glory!
however in church a little while ago we sang a hymn to the theme of the dambusters- appropriate?
but hey our loyalty is Queen and country first so if the queen has the national anthem then that is what it is.
I do not think they would be able to use the song Jerusalem for an anthem now because it is a hymn and has Christian references.
If nurses are not allowed to pray for patients and airport workers cannot wear crucifixes; I cannot see the change from our current anthem to a hymn taking place.
I can see Scotland's point. England is not the UK, it's only one of several Ks that are Ued.
Before Scotland created their own anthem, if England and Scotland were up against each other, would they have played God Save the Queen twice, once for England and once for Scotland?
What do Wales, Cornwall, Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man, &c play when they compete in the World Cup or similar events?
Do the various Ks in the UK have their own teams for the Olympics? Or does the UK have just one team for the whole UK?
This is an interesting topic...
God save the Queen (King) is an old English, not British song. Verse six goes:
6. Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
May he sedition hush
And like a torrent rush
Rebellious Scots to crush
God save the King
So is it likely that Scots would like it?
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