jump to last post 1-6 of 6 discussions (6 posts)

Retired General Accuses Bush of War Crimes

  1. Ralph Deeds profile image61
    Ralph Deedsposted 9 years ago
  2. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 9 years ago

    I very much doubt anything will come of it. Much like my own country, it seems the political leaders are above the law. sad

    Tony Blair should be in prison for selling peerages, his part in the Iraq war and refusing to do anything about carbon emissions.

    Not going to happen. He is busy getting paid millions to speak at banquets thrown by the people he looked after during his occupation of 10 Downing street.

  3. profile image0
    Zarm Nefilinposted 9 years ago

    http://www.truthout.org/article/us-gene … war-crimes

    " In order for these individuals to suffer the wanton cruelty to which they were subjected, a government policy was promulgated to the field whereby the Geneva Conventions and the Uniform Code of Military Justice were disregarded. The UN Convention Against Torture was indiscriminately ignored. And the healing professions, including physicians and psychologists, became complicit in the willful infliction of harm against those the Hippocratic Oath demands they protect."

    My comments:
    This will only be the beginning of it if it is not stopped.  The Nazi doctors did similar things to Jews and if the American people do not stand up to this tyranny then more of this will happen to Muslims.

    "The decision of the Supreme Court today upholding the habeas corpus right of Guantanamo detainees to challenge their detention in court is a victory not only for the rule of law but is a significant step in the campaign against torture. Physicians for Human Rights (PHR) applauds the Court’s decision which restores a historic bulwark against the abuse of power by any Administration.

    After years in custody without being charged with a crime, Guantanamo detainees will finally get a fair hearing. Without the protection of habeas corpus these detainees have been subject to indefinite detention and have been consigned to a legal black hole. As reported in numerous accounts by media and human rights organizations, including PHR, many of the detainees held over the years at Guantanamo have been subjected to various forms of ill-treatment, including torture. “The very lawlessness of this process has facilitated the torture and abuse which these detainees have suffered at the Guantanamo facility,” said PHR CEO Frank Donaghue.

    Today’s decision marks the beginning of the restoration of the reputation of the United States as a nation based on the rule of law. However, until the abuses which occurred at Guantanamo are fully investigated and those responsible are held accountable, the standing of the United States as a nation fully committed to human rights will remain in question."

    Looks like the Bush "administration" got it's hand slapped and removed it for the time being.  Will they openly flaunt the Supreme court however, is a good question. 

    They are cowardly bullies and not capable of real ruthless tyranny in my opinion, so the answer is probably not, due to low approval ratings and calls for impeachment due to war crimes.

    Also, Rove has been indited and Rummy left so the brain and the bulldog are gone.

    http://www.truthout.org/article/us-gene … war-crimes

    " Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba (now retired) served as the deputy commanding general for support for the Third Army for ten months in Kuwait during the early days of the Iraq occupation. In a statement released today, he bluntly accuses the Bush administration of war crimes and lays down a challenge for prosecution."

  4. profile image0
    Zarm Nefilinposted 9 years ago

    If it was mandatory for every US President to go through SERE school then I doubt our 200 year old tradtion of Habeus Corpas would have even experienced such trouble in the first place.

    If President Bush had gone through SERE like so many Ranger, SEALS, and Special Forces, then perhaps he would never have tried to dismantle Habeus Corpas.  I contend the same thing could be said for the other white house administration officials.

    This would most likely never happen of course.

    Oftentimes people do not understand the true nature of Pain until they have experienced it full tilt.  A lack of understanding leads them to unrealistic judgements of things like torture and how it works.

    The goal of torture is confession, the goal of interrogation is accurate and crucial information.

  5. William F. Torpey profile image77
    William F. Torpeyposted 9 years ago

    It is unlikely that those who were complicit in these war crimes will ever be brought to justice, I am happy to see that a few courageous individuals in positions of power are willing to risk their reputations and careers by speaking out truthfully. These are truly "profiles in courage," but, unfortunately, are rare, indeed.

  6. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 9 years ago

    There are two parties in America. The party of thieves and the party of liars. When the party of liars become dominant,
    they become the party of thieves. The party of thieves then becomes the party of liars, shouting to the rooftops, 'We'll put a stop to this, we'll bring an end to this injustice, we'll bring honor and integrity to the government'. How does America have 200 wars - oops mean conflicts? Because they're theives. And those who protest and fight back are terrorists. It's just like the leaves turning color in the autumn, just how it is, See the history channel.