Freedom of speech? LOL

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  1. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago
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      Sophia Angeliqueposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I'm wondering if there is going to be any fall out for Amazon...

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image72
        Evan G Rogersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        i'm definitely less likely to use them as an online shopping center.

        Unfortunately almost all of my advertisements on my hubs go to them - I'll have to stop putting up ads on my sites, or add a disclaimer at the end.

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          Sophia Angeliqueposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Left a sour taste in my mouth as well.

    2. thirdmillenium profile image60
      thirdmilleniumposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hello Mark
      Long time, no see!
      smile

      1. Mark Knowles profile image61
        Mark Knowlesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Been busy putting out a fire of my own creation. Just about back on track now. big_smile

  2. kirstenblog profile image77
    kirstenblogposted 7 years ago

    Did you hear about the rape alligations against the owner of wiki leaks? Seems awfully suspicious to me hmm



    The freedom of my speech is limited by the expanse of my vocabulary and the ability for spell check to figure out what the heck I am trying to say!

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    china manposted 7 years ago

    Well if Google follow suit and shut them out it would present a massive opportunity for Baidu its Chinese counterpart to host the Wiki site big_smile

    If you see teh Wiki man tell him that I would be only too pleased to arrange the hosting of his site on a Chinese server - after all that is what happens to sites that criticize China, they get hosted outside and then given funds by some black bag organisation.

  4. prettydarkhorse profile image63
    prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago

    How about HP, they might close this forum thread, LOL!!

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      china manposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      that would be   HP wiki wack   give the site a home !

  5. rotl profile image60
    rotlposted 7 years ago

    I can see why Amazon dropped them. But I don't agree with hunting the founder, Assange, like a dog and carrying out a witch hunt against him with phony rape charges. He embarrassed world leaders and showed them for what they are, and now they are carrying out a personal vendetta against him. I don't necessarily agree with what wikileaks is doing, but let's not make the founder the target of misplaced rage.

  6. aguasilver profile image71
    aguasilverposted 7 years ago

    Assange and Wikileaks deserve all the support anyone can give them, and we (Joe Public) should make it known that freedom of speech is paramount to a civilised society.

    If the power elite are embarrassed that their true opinions are being exposed, all the better.

    They deserve to be exposed.

  7. Ralph Deeds profile image67
    Ralph Deedsposted 7 years ago

    The rape charges and the actions of Wikileaks should be dealt with, on their merits, as completely separate, unrelated issues.

  8. Maddie Ruud profile image76
    Maddie Ruudposted 7 years ago

    And this follows on the heels of Amazon refusing to take down that eBook promoting pedophilia just a few weeks ago, under the "freedom of speech" argument. Interesting.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image61
      Mark Knowlesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Depends who's freedom is being defended it seems. wink

  9. Shadesbreath profile image84
    Shadesbreathposted 7 years ago

    Amazon is a business.  Just like HP is a business.  I see people all the time defending HP's right to pull down the most innocuous hubs for the most retarded reasons just to appease the source of revenue.  That's how business works.  It gets to decide what is in the best interest of its bottom line.

    Amazon decided this move was in the best interest of its bottom line.  Don't hate Amazon for watching its own ass.

    If the government wanted to keep its secrets, it should have done more to keep its secrets.  If people on the inside allowed themselves to be corrupted/tempted by that guy at Wikileaks, they should be executed as traitors.  They were given trust of the U.S. Government, and paid to do a job, and betrayed both mandates.  That is traitorous by definition, and absolutely a hanging offense (which I fully support... F--- that guy and anyone else involved). 

    The guy at Wikileaks is just doing his job as he sees it... making money by getting information. He's got his information and he's making his money.  The only thing I would say to him as a non-U.S. citizen, or to anyone feeling sorry for him, is "play with fire, you might get burned."  He wants to set himself up as some kind of liberal super-hero, that's fine.  But part of being a hero means risk and sacrifice.

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      Sophia Angeliqueposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I doub the guy at wkikleaks is doing this for money. That's not how the process works.

      Also, he is not buying information. The process to upload to wikileaks is completely anonymous. Nobody can tell where the information comes from. That protects the person who sends the information.

      The people who 'sell out' do so because they believe what is being done is ethically wrong and that's why they do it.

      The press used to play that role in something called investigative journalism. But investigative journalism is all but dead because the press has been bought out by business interests that manipulate readers to believe what it wants them to believe.

  10. aguasilver profile image71
    aguasilverposted 7 years ago

    Scotland Yard poised to arrest WikiLeaks boss over rape allegations after Interpol issues warrant

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … z170Vtz3c8

    Gues Shades is correct, he has played with the power elite and now they are after him..... but it's a serious blow to free speech if they shut him up.

    Let's hope he has a structure in place to carry Wikileaks on once they crucify him.

    Interestingly I sent a report to Interpol two weeks ago about a guy who has committed international fraud in four continents, with evidence, and yet heard nothing back from them, I guess Red Alerts need to be started by powerful people!

  11. Daniel Carter profile image73
    Daniel Carterposted 7 years ago

    I think Amazon is afraid that Hilary will make an attempt to have the government prosecute them for the leaks to "national security." And quite frankly, I'd be a bit of a fraidy cat of the government if I was in their shoes.

    I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying the government's got a lot more intimidation than I want to handle, let alone some business like Amazon.

  12. prettydarkhorse profile image63
    prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago

    wikileaks site is now wikileaks.ch - under a new Swiss address but still hosted in France and in Sweden according to latest news.

    The original domain host, EveryDNS.net, says it terminated its services because Wikileaks had been coming under "massive" cyber attacks.

    1. kirstenblog profile image77
      kirstenblogposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Good for the Swiss!

 
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