Joke going around...
I have to do it too, because it's so true:
A unionized public employee, a member of the Tea Party, and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table there is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across, takes 11 cookies, looks at the tea partier, and says, “Look out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie.”
Badtux the Snarky Penguin POSTED BY BADTUX AT 3/01/2011 08:10:00 AM 2 C
as a future teacher, we've been talking about this alot in our grad classes.
Just about everyone is demanding that "the government is evil".
I raised my hand and suggested "well, we gave the government near-monopoly control over education; we claim that they have the right to legislate morality (which I disagree with - but ObamaCare passed... so...); and so we KNEW walking into our job training that we were going to be working for an employer who could take our rights away if they thought we were becoming too rich".
No one really liked to hear that.... go figure.
I think I even got one lady to cry.
Evan, I agree with you completely! And you said it very well. The biggest trouble is that whole "forewarned is forearmed" thing? True and not true. You may know what you're getting into, but you can never know how you'll respond once you're in it.
Jefferson warned us of the problem centuries ago.
The problem is, everyone thinks that socialism is the answer.
This is not true - Socialism only exists as a counter to Captalism. Everyone can see that Capitalism in its present form, all its past forms, does not work except for a minority of people. Socialism cannot work because if Capital is 'defeated' then Socialism collapses. The global 'everyone' on average thinks that 'the answer' is something else - wallowing around trying to change things but keeping the past is not 'the' nswer - it lies in something new. If we knew what the new way was we would not be arguing the old lies against one another we would be 'doing' it. It is way past time for change and it isoly kept from developing by the vested and entrenched interests forwhom the lies pay dividends.
It already exists.
The state takes care of that which the state is best placed to take care of, such as the basic means of production, health, welfare etc, and private enterprise takes care of that which is best suited to private enterprise, such as making shoes and bicycles.
Of course both exist - it is time to put both out of their misery, or maybe that should be 'our' misery.
IF this was true - then the state would not be run by business and business would not dictate the direction of society - which they clearly DO.
What a wise reminder about Jefferson....and the founding fathers of the nation in general. They established a government unheard of in its time. We've just strayed so far from the original ideals and I think there's so much fear and confusion swirling around us that no one is able to stop and seriously discuss returning to those ideals.
Evan, the banksters are taking a much greater piece of the pie than you can imagine. The banksters run government. Trust me and look at my Wells Fargo hub if you don't believe me.
Evan, more than 20 years ago, I was in grad school at OSU pursuing a Masters in Education. I can remember very distinctly the general lament, at the time, that there was no real "standard" in public education. In other words, a public education in Vermont was not equal to one in Louisiana, etc. And on an even more micro level, the public education received in Upper Arlington was not the same as one received in, say, Zanesville.
As a libertarian, how do you believe the US can compete with the balance of the world - competitors that have a very strict, top-down view and policy on public education?PS - This is not a rhetorical question, I am interested in your opinion.
Evan, government is an evil but it is a necessary evil. That is why the founders created a limited government. People gave government control of education because the progressives use the emotional type of politics. It has worked well for them for the government has the final say in what is taught in our schools. Hence not very much.
the founders created a "limited" government.
And look where it got us.
Get rid of it all, and let me be sovereign.
I agree with that to an extent. There has to be a small government to enforce laws to protect people. Without this enforcement of laws, people would run wild. There has to be a limited power government to ensure that our rights are not taken by another. Our current government is doing just the opposite, taking our freedoms from us and has grown to large with way to much spending.
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