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Michael Moore...Hypocrite! LOL

  1. lady_love158 profile image59
    lady_love158posted 6 years ago

    http://blog.heritage.org/2011/03/10/whi … nsolvency/

    For his movie Capitalism a love story... he used non union workers that didn get health care when he could have used union workers! And the teachers union wouldn't take his free tickets in protest... yet there he is in WI! LOL

    1. John Holden profile image61
      John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Well done Lady Love, a link that doesn't relate to the topic in any way whatsoever, much safer than posting a link to something that says the opposite of your topic!

      1. lady_love158 profile image59
        lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this
  2. Will Apse profile image87
    Will Apseposted 6 years ago

    I am genuinely starting to think someone pays her for this stuff.

    1. John Holden profile image61
      John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      But not very much!
      A decent pay would warrant a decent level of story.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image25
        Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I have not yet seen the movie, Capitalism a love story, want to.

        His Movie sicko, Moore is an example of his point of America physical poor health since more people are dying of obesity than starvation in the world and America are the leader in obesity

        I am sure the fat cat rich do not give a dam for the poor and politician protect every conceivable evil known to mankind, as all government are corrupted in degrees. I think Government should more afraid of the people like many places in Europe rather than the other way round like in the USA. I look at Moore as an American hero caring for most people in America, what’s so Hypocrite about that?

  3. Will Apse profile image87
    Will Apseposted 6 years ago

    There is a curious consistency in her posts. It all seems very artificial.

    1. lady_love158 profile image59
      lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Of course there's consistency... I'm surprised a liberal would recognize something they aren't familiar with though! LOL

  4. BillyDRitchie profile image59
    BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago

    I love this....attack lady_love without even commenting on the news story.  Typical of the left.

    Even worse, it comes from liberal media outlet ABC News.....

    1. lady_love158 profile image59
      lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Lol! Liberals are sooo predictable!

    2. John Holden profile image61
      John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Erm, I did actually comment on the news story, I pointed out that she'd posted the wrong one!

    3. lovemychris profile image79
      lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      ABC is not liberal. We have one---MSNBC. And even that has conserv's in the midst.

      1. BillyDRitchie profile image59
        BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        ABC is not liberal....isn't that kinda like saying that LMC doesn't suffer from a severe case of wealth envy?

        1. lovemychris profile image79
          lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Nah--It's more like saying the Republican party is a freedom party.

          SO---where WAS ABC during the build-up to Iraq?
          REALLY questioned the Rah Rah, huh?

          ehhhhhhh. not.

          There were no liberal views expressed at that time, except for Democracy Now on cable-access tv.

          Any station that is all about Boobs, Viagra and Money money money is not liberal.
          And that would be all of them.

          1. BillyDRitchie profile image59
            BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Actually, as a conservative, I really do hope you manage to actually make some money and enjoy some wealth one day, LMC......that's what we all want, for EVERYBODY to be successful.......

  5. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    "Even worse, it comes from liberal media outlet ABC News....." Disney is liberal?

    1. BillyDRitchie profile image59
      BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Big time.....

  6. Will Apse profile image87
    Will Apseposted 6 years ago

    Not everything is attack and defence, BillyDRitchie. Sometimes the messenger is much more interesting than the message.

  7. yev601 profile image60
    yev601posted 6 years ago

    Heh, this is too funny. I like how they keep avoiding the actual issue. XD

    1. lady_love158 profile image59
      lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      It happens every time!! Im convinced liberals live in denial... its the only way they can hold onto their ideology! Lol

      1. Castlepaloma profile image25
        Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        lady_love

        I was wondering, are you anti liberal?

        1. lady_love158 profile image59
          lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Really you have to ask??? Lol Liberalism is evil! People that follow that ideology are either unimformed, don't know better or are themselves evil!

          1. Castlepaloma profile image25
            Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Liberalism is evil!

            I think liberalism is greatly linked to our imagination and the great unknown and conservative is like greatly link to our ego self. Blending the two is a healthy mix and balance, like the natural world and universe expanding and contracting.

            Lady love as you notice many people here disagree with you because the great conflict separating natural sources rather than flowing with what is natural in all human being,

            The absence of reason of both balance of liberal and  conservative is evil

            1. lady_love158 profile image59
              lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              No liberalism is linked to fantasy... the idea that you can elect someone to care for you and serve all of mankind in building a Utopian society without corruption and without force or abuse of power! Reading that it even sounds like a dream unreal imagined.  Conservatism is reality it is doing what comes natural fulfilling your destiny its following your dreams and not giving up when you fail... its knowing as long as you're free anything is possible... dreams and reality I can balance fantasy is better left to stories around the campfire.

              1. Castlepaloma profile image25
                Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                My dream would be to experience Conservatism liberalism blend. I like your poems yet I don't understand your one-sidedness. When China surpasses the USA for innovation in this decade maybe then you will understand better balance of both and how the people are the true leaders.

                1. lady_love158 profile image59
                  lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  The Chinese don't innovate anything they steal it from us!

                  1. Castlepaloma profile image25
                    Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Hollywood is the main featured at many of these International world trade shows as American culture as it is a rip off from everyone else’s cultures. What get ignored and was the greatest genocide in human history, the early native Americans in which is the real mystic culture.

                    Royal China was been civilized and inventive for 10,000 years vs. USA 500 years.

  8. Will Apse profile image87
    Will Apseposted 6 years ago

    This is an interesting read. Some of the uses forums get put too.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/g … troturfing

    1. lady_love158 profile image59
      lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      So what you're telling me is I've been arguing with a bunch of astroturfing liberals??? OMG!! LOL

      1. Will Apse profile image87
        Will Apseposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        That would be funny, wouldn't it?

        1. lady_love158 profile image59
          lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Really I wouldn't care I've still enjoyed the debate!

  9. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    Ah Monbiot, he doesn't get as much play as he used to - maybe out of style or he hasn't kept up.

    "Every month more evidence piles up, suggesting that online comment threads and forums are being hijacked by people who aren't what they seem." I am what I seem.

  10. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    It's not likely to happen for me Ritchie.
    I have too many people to care for to think about that....unless it happens when I'm 65 or so...which is not beyond possibility....
    But, for everybody to be successful, there has to be equal opportunity.
    And we are far from that.

    And moving farther and farther away.

    1. BillyDRitchie profile image59
      BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      This is quite possibly the saddest post I have read in these forums.  I can't even laugh at LMC anymore, I just feel sorry for her.....

      1. John Holden profile image61
        John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        As Ernest Marples said,most people are too busy earning a living to make any money.

        1. BillyDRitchie profile image59
          BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          That is of course, your choice.....I'll opt for the way that let's me put a few bucks in my pocket.....

          1. John Holden profile image61
            John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Well it's not really my choice or the choice of most people either.
            Good for you that you can put a few bucks away but what about the man who can't even earn enough to live on?

            1. BillyDRitchie profile image59
              BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              My experience has been that those who genuinely desire to succeed will do so.  And those who do not will not.

              If you aren't earning enough, pick up a second job, or curtail your lifestyle so you can afford to live within your means, or some combination of the two.

              Everybody screams about the economy, but my paper is full of job postings every day.

              1. John Holden profile image61
                John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Ah, fine words Bill but you know that's all they are.
                Does the mother get two jobs?
                What about the ill and unfit?
                What about people who live in areas where there isn't enough jobs for one per person?

                So, your paper is full of job postings every day, how many are paid enough for a lengthy commute? How many suit the qualifications of the unemployed?
                You know we had exactly this debate in the local pub! No shortage of jobs, look the paper is stuffed with them! So, we went through them all and looked for another job for the doubter, a qualified electrical engineer. How many did we find for him? None, even discarding his qualifications we only found a handful of jobs, the chance of him getting any one of them was virtually nil, as he would be over qualified or too old for them.

                1. BillyDRitchie profile image59
                  BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Nowhere did I say that the job will be your ideal dream job, but there is definitely something out there to put a paycheck in your hands every two weeks.....

                  I know plenty of mothers who work more than one job.  They do what they have to do for their children.

                  If you really want to work, you will find a way to do so.....

                  1. John Holden profile image61
                    John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    But that isn't really my dispute is it? Of course it is better to have any job and only erode saving by $25 dollars a week than have no job and erode them by $50 dollars a week.
                    But why should anybody be put in that position when the crony capitalist bosses are making more off them than they make themselves?
                    You don't honestly think it right that somebody should have to have two jobs to make a basic living wage, do you?

      2. lovemychris profile image79
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Don't feel sorry for me...I grew up nice middle class with good schools and a nice neighborhood.
        Feel sorry for the little kids who live in poverty, with crumbling, neglected schools, and having to avert gun-fire on a daily basis.
        Poverty is the scourge of America, and unfortunately, the only thing I see happening is MORE money being taken away from people who really need it. More lousy schools allowed to crumble. More kids allowed to just harden, because they have nothing to loook forward to.
        But private schools are getting a boost. And wealthy incomes are getting tax breaks.

        We are destroying this place because we worship money.
        And we all bow down to the rich and powerful.

        1. John Holden profile image61
          John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Hey Mr Gates, put down that toilet roll, let me lick you clean, it'll be my pleasure.

        2. BillyDRitchie profile image59
          BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I'm curious how money is being "taken away" from people when it was never theirs to begin with.

          If you bow to the rich and powerful, it's your own fault.  You cannot let somebody else's success discourage you from accomplishing the same thing.

          As long as you portray your self and believe yourself to be a victim, you will never make it anywhere.....

          1. lovemychris profile image79
            lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Gvt money IS the "peoples" money!
            You pay it in exchange for living here, don't you?
            Some people want to use it to enhance the wealthy...Republicans.
            Some people want to use it to help the dis-advantaged...Democrats.

            Your side seems to think that everybody was born with a silver spoon in their mouth...it's not so.
            And living in the slums of a city is far different than living in a nice cushy suburb, with all the advantages.

            It is my view that the "peoples" money should be spent to make things better for society as a whole.
            NOT just line the pockets of millionaires, as in Banks, Big Business, Corporations, ALL of whom take a LOAD of the people's money everyday.

            1. lady_love158 profile image59
              lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              The government doesn't have ANY money. The money the do have comes from the people to administer their duties as assigned by the constitution. The government does not GIVE anything to the rich.

            2. BillyDRitchie profile image59
              BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Remind me again, LMC, how much of my income are you entitled to? 

              You preach your side with a great deal of conviction, but when I ask you to put rubber to the road and give me a figure or a percentage, you clam up.....

              1. lovemychris profile image79
                lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                What are you talking about???

                I do not personally take from YOU. It all goes into a pot and our elected reps decide how to use it.

                YOU are not giving ME anything.

                1. BillyDRitchie profile image59
                  BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Oh, yeah, because as we all know, government knows better.

                  C'mon, LMC, with the amount of wealth envy whining you do, you must have at least an idea of how much of my income you believe you are worth.

                  1. John Holden profile image61
                    John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Bill, if government taxes were to be abolished tomorrow you don't really believe that the cronies club would let you keep it all do you?
                    Don't forget, if you didn't pay taxes that were distributed to the cronies they would have to make up the shortfall in income.

    2. lady_love158 profile image59
      lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      If you keep electing liberals its never going to happen! We have to go back to what made us great and that is smaller less government less dependence less entitlement more competitution innovation savings investment and the resulting prosperity for us all!

      1. John Holden profile image61
        John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        In short, more big money for the big money men.

        1. lady_love158 profile image59
          lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          More prosperity and opportunity for all! Hey that's what worked in the past...just satin.

          1. John Holden profile image61
            John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            No, just for the big money men!
            You don't pay taxes but you pay for everything that taxes cover now!
            Guess who would get that money!

  11. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    The fantasy is that conservatism stands for freedom.

    There are a LOT of rules you must follow to go there.

    THAT is NOT freedom.

  12. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    "The government does not GIVE anything to the rich." You are right. The rich just take it.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image25
      Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Great puppeteers, those rich

    2. lovemychris profile image79
      lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Ahahaha!!!

  13. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    "My dream would be to experience Conservatism liberalism blend. I like your poems yet I don't understand (...) one-sidedness.
    Its generally called divide and conquer. A thief in the house and the household is catching on. So the thief starts everybody fighting among themselves, such that they forget they are being pilfered.

 
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