Tax evaders should be sent to workhouses!

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   KyleBearposted 13 years ago

   Tax evasion is a numbers game. Let's take the hypothetical example of a braying young aristocrat who has an unearned income of £100,000 per year, this money being accrued through an offshore trust fund that his over-privileged mummy and daddy set up for him when he was born.
   
   Now, let's say this indolent young nobleman resents paying the 28% capital gains tax due when repatriating the money back into the UK and decides to consult a corrupt tax accountant to see what measures he might take to jew Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs out of the money he would owe them.
   
   That accountant is likely to advise the slippery young gent to divide his trust fund income between 10 separate tax dodges, with each caper laundering £10,000 each. By doing this, if the taxman did stumble across one of these wheezes and the tax-dodging toff is duly prosecuted, as a punishment he would have to pay the tax on the £10,000: £2,800, plus a fine equivalent to that amount, so a total of £5,600.
   
   However, our upper-class fraudster would not be too bothered by this penalty because he would still be saving the tax due on the remaining £90,000 – that is £25,200 - and would, therefore, be £19,600 better off overall as the result of his portfolio of tax evasion schemes.
   
   Now, on an apparently unrelated issue, manufacturing companies in the West find it difficult to compete on cost with rival firms based in emerging economies such as India because these countries tolerate child labour, have no minimum wage and impose very few health and safety regulations on employers.
   
   We could punish tax evaders more effectively and help our manufacturing industry out at the same time by sending convicted tax evaders to secure workhouses run by manufacturing companies. These firms would pay the inmates £2.65 per day, equivalent to the average pay of a production worker in India , and these wages would be forwarded directly to the government to pay off the offenders' fines.
   
   So, in return for providing rudimentary accommodation (a sleeping mat next to the machinery would be more than sufficient for these creative-accounting criminals) and basic meals (insipid gruels and stale bread would be more than these tax-fiddling felons deserve), the workhouse owners would have a workforce that they could pay the same as their third world competitors.
   
   Meanwhile, an important message would be sent to wealthy individuals who believe that they are entitled to benefit from the country's publicly-funded infrastructure without contributing to the cost of it and that message would be: "You are a dirty, cheating scumbag and if we catch you fiddling your taxes you will be dealt with like the lowlife criminal that you are."
   
   Tax evasion is not a victimless crime: if rich tax-evaders paid their dues we'd all benefit from better public services or pay lower taxes, or both, and that's why tax evaders should be sent to workhouses.
   
   What do you guys think? Anyone agree with me on this?

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   Evan G Rogersposted 13 years ago

   Tax evaders are heroes.
   
   Taxes are theft, and thus evading them is an act of heroism.
   
   Money spent by government is NOT charity.

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      KyleBearposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      And the government will run on what?

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         Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         who needs a government?

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      John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      No of course it isn't charity, it's good hard cash creating jobs be they police or road builders or even just government workers.
      It also provides lots of work in private enterprises.

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         Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Hey!! I know how we can create jobs!!!
         
         Hear me out, just go with it...
         
         Ok, so... first, I'll buy a gun... ok? got it? still with me?
         
         Ok, then you guys all give me your money, or else I shoot you or put you in jail! ... still got it? We all good?
         
         Ok, then I'll take the money and give it to some people to protect me from you guys when you try to murder me for taking your money!!!! Got that? still with me? sound good?
         
         I SWEAR I won't use this power for personal gain!! I PROMISE!!
         
         ... sound good?

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            TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Are you running in 2012?

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               Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Ron Paul is!

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            John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Evan, you're getting confused.
            That's big business you're talking about there.

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               Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I don't think i've ever had a threat of jail time imposed on me by a company.
               
               ... so..
               
               No, I think you're confused.

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                  John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  At least the government feeds you. Big business cuts you off you'll sometimes think prison would be better.
                  No home, no car, no food, beyond what you find, no gas, no electricity.
                  
                  The confusion is back in your court Evan.

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                     Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T FEED ME!!!
                     
                     In fact, every attempt by the government to feed their people has led to starvation. Ask the Soviets and the Chinese. (And while your at it, ask them why their government used starvation as a political tool!)
                     
                     I don't go to the "Federal Food Distribution Center" to get food, I go to Giant Eagle, Kroger, and Meijers (chains in the US). And when I'm there, I don't look for "Government Produced Food Product", I buy stuff from thousands upon thousands of independently owned companies competing with one another to a share of my food budget each week.
                     
                     John, you know better than to say such incorrect remarks. I'll forgive you on this one. Just don't let it happen again.

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                        John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        What, you mean prisoners aren't fed? 
                        Or are you drawing attention to the fact that the prisons are actually private businesses?

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                           Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           ... so when you said:
                           
                           "At least the government feeds you."
                           
                           ... you meant "after I refuse to let them steal my money, and they arrest me and take away all my freedom at the point of a gun and throw me in a jail".
                           
                           Oh ok.
                           
                           Yeah, the US government will feed me after stripping me of all my freedom...
                           
                           ... so long as I'm not considered an enemy of the state...
                           
                           Anyway, thanks for clearing up that "people usually get fed while in prison". That really takes the edge off of "having all your rights stripped of you".

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            KyleBearposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            That isn't a very good analogy. How is it gonna be fair to the people who pay their full amount?

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               Evan G Rogersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               taxes aren't fair to anyone, that's the point.
               
               Why the hell does everyone around me get to vote on how to spend my money?
               
               The only fair tax is 0%.

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                  Paul Wingertposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  What ever you've been drinking, send me a case!

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   dutchman1951posted 13 years ago

   Big business aside, consider that the jails are not big enough...lololol
   
   like we all have not fumbled the numbers at times?
   
   probly 80% of the population I'd say. Not just business, and advisory CPA's

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   TMMasonposted 13 years ago

   There was a day when we had debtors prison in this world. And it was not a good thing.

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   aguasilverposted 13 years ago

   Income tax is wrong, put all tax on purchase/consumption and everyone pays, the rich can pay less by using less or buying basic (low cost/taxed) items and the poor man can buy luxury if he can afford it.
   
   Tax was introduced to pay for war initially, once the King realised that it was costing him personally to hold onto power.
   
   Currently you are a slave to a corrupt government regime controlled by the richest elite families of the world, 300 of them to be precise, and you have bought into the lie that keeps them in power, control of the money supply and taxation.
   
   You pay over 80% of your income in taxation, direct and indirect, and you pay it to keep the rich elite as your masters over you.
   
   Watch these videos, then think again!
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjlsnrljR14

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      cindi hposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      aguasilver  very interesting video  so is this:
      
      building permit tax
      CDL license tax
      cigarette  tax
      corporate income tax
      dog license tax
      excise tax
      federal income tax
      federal unemployment tax
      fishing license tax
      food license tax
      gas tax
      gross receipts tax
      hunting license tax
      inheritance tax
      inventory tax
      irs interest and penalties  tax on tax
      liquor tax
      luxury tax
      marriage license tax
      medicare tax
      personal property tax
      real estate tax
      service charge tax
      social security tax
      road usage tax
      sales tax
      recreational vehicle tax
      school tax
      state income tax
      state unemployment tax
      tangible taxes
      telephone taxes:
         federal excise
         universal service fee tax
        federal state and local surcharge tax
        minimum usage surcharge tax
        re-curring and non-recurring charges tax
        state and local tax
         usage tax
      utility tax
      vehicle license registration tax
      vehicle sales tax
      watercraft reg. tax
      well permit tax
      workers comp tax
      
      ++ NOT ONE OF THESE TAXES EXISTED 100 YEARS AGO AND OUR NATION WAS THE MOST PROSPEROUS IN THE WORLD.
      
      WE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO NATIONAL DEBT, HAD THE LARGEST MIDDLE CLASS IN THE WORLD AND MOMS STAYED HOME TO RAISE THE KIDS!!!
      
      WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED???    ANSWER: POLITICIANS

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         aguasilverposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks, that is a staggering list of taxation designed to fleece your citizens, I am delighted to be exempt from any of them!
         
         Yes, that video is powerful, pity more folk do not watch it, and the rest of the series.

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   cindi hposted 13 years ago

   THE RICH DON'T GET RICH BY MAKING MONEY--THEY GET RICH BY NOT PAYING TAXES!!!!

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