Another Scotland Yard Chief Resigns - David Cameron in trouble?

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   CMHypnoposted 11 years ago

   David Cameron has returned early from an official visit to South Africa to deal with the escalating phone hacking and allegations of corruption in the press and the police force, that has just seen another Scotland Yard chief John Yates being forced to resign.
   
   According to the press David Cameron had to evade questions about resigning himself while in South Africa, and similar questions will are being asked in the UK.
   
   Will Cameron and the Coalition government be able to survive?
   
   
   http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/1 … igns-quits
   
   http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … risis.html

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      qeylerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I think he might;

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      Shinkickerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The Independent newspaper speculated that this could become Britain's 'Watergate'

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         CMHypnoposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Could make Watergate look ethical the way it is going!

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   CASE1WORKERposted 11 years ago

   To be honest I hope he will- simply because if he is found to be a liar like Blair, I shall be really quite sad. We need to trust someone in this life and he seems quite trust worthy. Not surprised about the police and there was probably complicity in the CPS as it is they that would have charged the offence not the police!

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      John Holdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Cameron trustworthy!
      
      You're having a laugh aren't you?

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         CASE1WORKERposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         We have to have faith in some one or some thing, surely?

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            CMHypnoposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            The alternative of a coalition between Miliband and Clegg is way too scary! We'd all be micro-chipped citizens of a federal Europe in nanoseconds!

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            John Holdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            But not blind faith, let them first show themselves to be trustworthy.
            
            Cameron has not shown himself to be trustworthy, unless you count trusting him to always do the opposite of what he says he intends to do.

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   Mark Ewbieposted 11 years ago

   To add to this - what about the NOTW journalist who has apparently committed suicide, or died of 'natural causes'.
   
   I wonder if he went for a 'walk in the woods'.

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      CMHypnoposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It just said on the news that he was suffering from a terminal illness, but that doesn't mean that he didn't take his own life.
      
      The ripple effects of all this could be truly tragic, with many ruined lives, and at a time when we need our politicians to be concentrating on rebuilding our economy.
      
      But it is quite frightening how far the poison has spread and how corrupt things have become.
      
      I don't think that it looks good for Cameron, as Miliband (a man who was happy to shaft his own brother), Clegg (a man who would shaft anyone as long as he gets a plum EU pension out of it) and the BBC are all baying for his blood.  He needs to tread mightily carefully.

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         Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I don't want to be a conspiracist but...
         
         The dead journo, sorry don't know his name, was one of the few who had spoken about the dirty on Coulson.  Camerons' friend.  Cameron has a lot of friends.  Just like Tony Blair of course - no better, no worse.
         
         Is Cameron, Murdoch, Scotland Yard better off as a result of this guy being unable to give evidence?  I reckon so.
         
         This is a very high stakes game being played out now - it's not impossible to think this could bring down the government.
         
         How about this for a scenario?  As you say Clegg (oh how we loved his TV appearances before the elections - a man of integrity) would sell his grandmother.  Would he pact with Labour (and the public) in order to pass a motion of no confidence in the government?
         
         Wind everything back to when Murdoch's papers (I think) stitched up Vince Cable to get him away from the BSkyB deal.  A couple of girls, a secret tape and a stooge replacement - handpicked by... Cameron.  Murdoch's friend, Rebekah's friend and Coulson's friend.
         
         It was all going along so nicely, until someone leaked the Dowler's had been hacked.

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            CMHypnoposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            As you say Clegg would sell his own grandmother, and is very keen to hang on to his perks and status as deputy PM.  He would make a pact with the devil to stay in power, so I don't think that Miliband would be much of a problem.
            
            I think that the British public's revulsion over the hacking of Milly Dowler's phone was a revelation to our ruling political classes, as I don't think that they really understood before that the vast majority of the British public are still decent people who would never condone such a despicable, callous act. I really think that they all thought that we were as corrupt and twisted as they are.
            
            It's going to take a lot more than 'lessons have been learned' to get them out of this one!

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   optimus grimlockposted 11 years ago

   that sucks cuz you guys are on the same finacial path greece was....

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      Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Well, I don't know where you live, but I think the entire West is on the same downward path.  And the East make their money from selling to the West.
      
      We are probably all screwed.

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   CASE1WORKERposted 11 years ago

   I am not surprised, there has been a swift reduction in integrity in public service in the last twenty years.
   It may however be that we have to stick with what we know! Unless of course Murdoch takes a boating holiday just as that other newspaper man did!

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      Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Lol yes!  There's nothing new under the Sun or the Mirror.
      
      As a plus though I am finding this the most interesting rolling news story ever.  And what a cast of slimy, self motivated, crooks. 
      
      It's going to be a great film when they make it.  Just need a hero from somewhere.  Dennis Skinner?

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         CMHypnoposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Dennis Thatcher lol!

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            Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            What a team!

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               CMHypnoposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Have you ever thought of Ewbie for Prime Minister?

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                  Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Lol, funny you should say that.  I am sufficiently up myself, and potentially corruptible, to believe some of my spouting off.
                  
                  Love politics though, or trying to see through the politics to what the game really is.  It's like doing a crossword puzzle.

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                     CMHypnoposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     Could I write your press releases?

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   CASE1WORKERposted 11 years ago

   Good choice!
   
   I like reading Murdoch's apologies in the papers, they are the best bit of creative writing I have seen in a long time

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      Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Newscorp hired a new public relations outfit last week.  Since then all sorts of things have been done, which they should have done in the first place.
      
      Those pictures of him and Rebekah, grinning away, and him saying she was his priority.  No idea.
      
      He should have sacked her immediately (why didn't he I wonder?) and apologised for all they had done.  Then maybe 200 journalists could have carried with the NOTW - which fulfils a requirement for some people on a Sunday.

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         CASE1WORKERposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Beats me.I find most of the press to be less of a read than I hope. In fact I try to avoid the news totally and rely on my son aged 13 to read, listen and disseminate any view that I may be required to hold.

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            Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Might as well agree with the young people, they are the future.  At least they have the energy to maintain a required level of annoyance.

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         CMHypnoposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Murdoch's relationship with Rebekah? Now that is one to speculate on?  Didn't take long for the female members of the Murdoch clan to do a hatchet job on her, so it makes you wonder?

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            Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I may know the answer to this.  Can I put forward a theory?  How about she is his child?  The times are right - and what other explanation could there be for his attempts to protect her, and his previous promotion of her?
            
            She didn't strike me as particularly high powered in any of the stuff I've seen. And he sure likes a bit of nepotism.

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               CMHypnoposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I always thought that the funniest thing was when she was married to Ross Kemp aka hard man and the police were called to their house for a domestic, but apparently it was him who had been beaten up. Would never have happened on the Square LOL!

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   CMHypnoposted 11 years ago

   And then there was four!
   
   http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … quiry.html
   
   These police chiefs are going down like nine pins!

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      Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      If you do write my press releases remember to stuff that keyphrase "I acted with integrity".
      
      Love it.
      
      I think Cameron is going.  It's not the initial crime, the hacking, it's the cover up.  Same as Watergate I believe.
      
      Murdoch is probably finished, certainly his dynasty idea. 
      
      And the Met will carry on serving the public, and helping themselves on the side of course.
      
      I need a new political profile - Mark of the Met or something.

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         John Holdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Would that be "serving" like the bull does to the cow?

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            Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I think you have it exactly right.

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         CMHypnoposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Mark of the Met sounds like some sad dog or pony story for kids! But then Lassie is probably the ultimate integrity icon?
         
         Isn't the Chinese curse 'may you live in interesting times' and I bet that Cameron et al are wishing quite hard that things go back to boring!

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            Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            OK, not Mark of the Met then.

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               CMHypnoposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               The Wapping One?

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                  Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Could be misconstrued.  I'll have to have a think.

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                     CMHypnoposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     It's no fun if it can't be misconstrued.
                     
                     Anyway 'power tend to corrupt - and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely' so after a few years in power, you will be just as bad as the rest of them!

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