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McCain campaign suspension a ploy to keep Palin from having to debate?

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    daflaposted 9 years ago

    What is this thing with Palin being so shielded from the press?  Evidently, they don't want her asked about the investigation into "alleged" wrongdoing in the troopergate scandal.  I'm thinking maybe she is the one orchestrating this, because I can't see her going along with it.

    Now there will be no Vice Presidential debates?  COME ON!!  We all know that Joe Biden would squash her like a bug, so I guess there is no need for one, right?  WRONG! 

    I TOTALLY agree with Obama that a President has to be able to multitask, and that they both have planes that could get them back and forth from Mississippi to Washington pretty quickly.  I'm sure the other 98 members of the senate could handle this without them.  McCain isn't on any relevant committees at all, so why does he think he is so damned important to the process?

    I agree that the two people who may have to take over this mess in a few weeks should be kept up on what's going on, but this crap about suspending campaigns and doing away with Vice Presidential debates is just BS!  I'm sure of one thing, that this was a stupid move on McCain's part, and it will hurt him in the end. 

    Well, at least he'll be able to blame Obama for NOT suspending his campaign during the crisis when he loses.  He'll have to have somebody to blame, surely not the fact that he chose a corrupt, lying, incapable politician for his running mate simply because she was a woman, then found out she was a disaster waiting to happen.  No, he'll blame Obama, because Obama is acting Presidential, saying he can handle this and his campaign. 

    What a load of crap.

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      Yellowburgandyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      First of all didn't the President himself cancle his plans to stay in washington to deal with this crisis?  This is not a small crisis, this is large enough to effect each and every one of us.  This is about saving our economy not on debates.

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    Poppa Bluesposted 9 years ago

    I agree with one of your points, Palin should be exposed to the press. She should be taking questions and answering them. It's too close to the election for her not to! The debates Friday were supposed to be limited to foreign policy without any exchange between the candidates. That's is a shame since the economy is what's on people's minds now, but that subject has been reserved for the last scheduled debate.

    I don't agree that Biden would squash Palin though. The problem is there's no way to know how she might do since everything she's said so far has been scripted. Biden is known for his tendency to put his foot in his mouth.

    I wish too that the McCain campaign didn't put off the troopergate investigation. They should have just let it get done before the election and they should have allowed Palin to address the concerns. I really don't think they will be able to prove any wrong doing in that case.

    As far as McCain going to Washington to work on the current economic problem, some would say he is doing that to look presidential, and it might just work for him!

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    sandra rinckposted 9 years ago

    I agree with you both in that we need to hear what Palin has to say.  I think there is somthing else going on with them because to go out of thier way to keep her quiet, something is up.  *scary*.

    I do think that McCain is doing the right thing because that is part of his job right now, so to me it shows that he doesn't neglect his duties.  Some could argue that he is doing it for his personal interest, but I could say being on board to help solve (if you will) our economic crisis at the moment is more important to him then winning the election.  Which Obama seems to care more about at the moment. 

    Don't know how this speaks to you.  I certainly wish McCain had not chosen "She Devil" for his running mate.  I was going to vote McCain until she came along.  Can he fire her?  smile

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    Poppa Bluesposted 9 years ago

    Well I like her! I don't agree with all of her views, but I like her! She's fresh, she's not a Washington insider, and she's more like middle America than anyone else running and THAT is what I think appeals to so many Americans, so much so that we are willing to overlook some of the problems we might have with her views.

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      sandra rinckposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I liked her at first, but then she started saying some pretty "scary" things, she favors war and she is liar.  Of course all politicians are liars by nature but she lies about stupid things and if you want to lie, you might as well make it a good one.  lol.

      I still think something is wrong.  Of course she is very pleasing to the eyes and it would be nice for a change to have a women as a leader, but not her.  But, you get to chose, your vote counts for something I just think you reconsider. 

      Of course I don't like Obama either soooo.  tongue

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    daflaposted 9 years ago

    I was never, except for one brief moment when Hillary lost, thinking of voting for McCain.  I think the Palin choice is blowing up in his face, and yes, it is scary that he (or she) won't let the press ask her questions.

    I feel sorry for her, actually, in a way.  I don't think she knew what she was getting into when she took this thing on, and now nobody will know where she really stands on anything.  Her "brilliant" speech was written word for word by McCain's speech writers.  She did present it well, but hey, Obama presents speeches well.  That's not a qualification to be in the White House.

    Yes, he can fire her, or she can drop out.  There was talk that if things started really going downhill for Obama after the Palin pick that Joe Biden would find some convenient way to drop out and they would put Hillary in to pull it out. 

    This is the craziest campaign I've ever seen!

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      sandra rinckposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I know! lol.  So Palin didn't write that speech?  Do you have proof of this?  Just wondering.  smile

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        daflaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Before the convention, it was all over that she was with McCain's speech writers composing her speech.  I'm sure she had some input, but they basically wrote it and told her what to say.

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          Yellowburgandyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          They didn't tell her to say Do you know the differance between a pitbull and a soccer mom?  Lipstick.  LOL  That was brilliant, she related herself to the average person, and she said it on her own, absolutely magnificent!

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            Mark Knowlesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            So the average American considers themselves to be a pitbull? And this was a magnificent piece of speaking?

            lol

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    daflaposted 9 years ago

    Poppa, do you not think that 97 other senators, 435 representatives, the President and two economic experts can solve this without McCain?

    I'm thinking he could handle it remotely.  Hell, the President went home to Texas for the weekend for how many years, and the country survived.

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      Poppa Bluesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I suppose so after all he hasn't voted on anything in the senate since April!!! However,, as a senator it is his job and as a candidate for president who will inherit the mess I think it's wise to be a part of that's going on, don't you?

  7. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 9 years ago

    PB - She is not a Washington-insider because she has probably never been to Washington. But she has displayed all the negative traits - just in Alaska. Give her 6 months and she will be getting people fired and using her position to push her own agenda.

    I find her views scary. and I know you did not look at the videos I left, but any one who thinks the war in Iraq is  a task from god is dangerous. These are her actual words:

    "Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God"

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      Poppa Bluesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, we've had this discussion already. I can pick all kinds of things that Obama said out of context and you'd find them just as scary. You have a personal bias because you are atheists so I understand where you're coming from. I certainly am not much on religion myself and I don't share much of Palin's views. I also find her voice annoying, but I still like her for the reasons I stated. Obama too has placed his ambition above his loyalty which is why he is where he is, but that's not why I'm not voting for him. Obama also voted for the patriot act and granted immunity to the telcoms. The democrats even with control of the congress have been shown to be weak. They have not stood up for our liberty and their economic policies and plans will spell disaster for America. We already have 55 Trillion dollars of unfunded liabilities with social security, medicare and medicaid, 11 trillions of debt and the democrats are talking about tax cuts and additional social programs that will cost billions more!
      Frankly all of the choices are bad and politicians in general are gutless scumbags that serve their own interests before that of the people, but we get what we deserve! We keep electing the same incumbents, we allow them to make the election rules that insure their reelection, We don't protest when they pass a law giving them automatic raises that they don't have to vote on...it goes on and on!!! Still I will vote for McCain because he is the lesser of the evils in my mind. Normally I would vote for Barr, the libertarian candidate, but this election is too important to allow Obama a win.

  8. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 9 years ago

    Well, I wouldn't say I took that out of context because I quoted a large chunk of text the first time, and linked to the video so you could see the entire speech all together.

    And yes - you are right. Because I don't believe in god, having a woman who believes killing people is a task from god being potentially in command of the US's armed forces and nuclear arsenal scares me.

    Even if I did believe in her particular version of god, she would still scare me.

    I do agree that they are all lying scumbags though smile

    We have the same issue in the UK. 2 to choose from, both of whom come from a long line of predecessors who have demonstrated nothing more than an eye for the main chance and a quick buck.

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      sandra rinckposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Mark,

      I gotta song for you.  Enjoy.  You may not like punk rock, but I think you would like this song.  NoFx, Your Wrong.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGaIaSJa630

      I think you will like this one too.  Franco un-american.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzpTmcq7nBg

      smile

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    Mark Knowlesposted 9 years ago

    lol

    Excellent ! I may have to add them to my blog. Check out this one for a giggle:

    http://markpknowles.com/very-funny-vide … an-singer/

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    sandra rinckposted 9 years ago

    lol.  That brings to meaning to sowow. 

    try this one.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw49mm-CmNo   smile  you will love the "furious george" pick.

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    knolyourselfposted 9 years ago

    For all of those who would vote for McCain, did you ever hear of Phil Gramam ex US senator. He is the guy who snuck through
    all the deregulation that gave you enron and current economic melt down. Who is Phil Graham but McCain's ex economic advisor, who some say was slated to be McCain's Secretary of the Treasury if he won.

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      Ben Bushposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Is it possible that this is the other way around?

      Regardless of what you think about her positions and her Christianity, do you get the impression that she can't handle herself in a debate. And I thing that's the problem......for the other side.

      Biden, on the other hand, has a history of making ridiculous statments.

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      Poppa Bluesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Hold on fella! Bill Clinton is the one who signed the repeal of the Glass-Steagall act. It was Bill Clinton's man who headed up Fannie Mae, and Barack Obama and Chris Dodd received more money in campaign contributions from Fannie Mae then anybody else! And Dodd by the way received a sweetheart mortgage deal from Countrywide, you know one of those companies that was going belly up and was bought by the bank of America! Oh and it was Bill Clinton that pushed Fannie Mae to give mortgages to the poor, you know those people that couldn't afford it!

      It's just unfair to blame all this mess on the Republicans, not that they don't have any culpability.

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        Mishaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        That I agree completely. Republicans just happen to be in power when things got visibly ugly, but all the population took active part in manufacturing this ugly slide...

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    allshookupposted 9 years ago

    I'm from Mississippi. We have spent a ton of money getting ready for this debate. Ole Miss had known for 3 years that they would host this debate. And for the past year, there has been so much work put toward getting every single detail ready for them to come. All of the hotels and motels have been booked for months and people are renting out rooms in their own homes for people who have decended on our state for this purpose. Millions of dollars have been spent for this. Needless to say, the telephone lines were hot here yesterday following the announcement that it may not happen. I talked to friends who lives on and around campus. The college and surrounding streets have been blocked off since Saturday and on friend's been having to go around the world to get to her classes and work. And now this. She is very upset as are so many here. But, she said she is taking comfort in McCain going to Washington to work on this financial crisis because he is against Busch. Which she felt is a good thing. Most of us are afraid if it passed the way it was, that it would be a huge mess and inflation would soar. The people at Ole Miss are upset but they don't seem to feel that McCain has some hidden motive in doing what he is doing. He didn't ask for the debate to be totally deleted from the campaign, only to put if off a little while. She also said that since Obama refused to go to 10 debates with McCain himself siting that he needed to be in Washington for his job, that it's the same thing. She doesn't understand why all of the media is saying that there's some hidden motive in McCain doing this but nothing was said like that when Obama did it 10 times siting the same thing McCain is. She feels that McCain is simply doing the job he is paid to do. He is not being paid to campaign. Which I felt was an excellent point.  She's upset, but she is hopes that since McCain is in Washington today that they can get this nailed down quickly and move on to the debate. The legislation is something that had to be done in a time frame and the debate can be rescheduled. She said that a lot of the people at Ole Miss, including teachers, are still in hopes of having the debate, but they do not want it at the expense of Busch's legislation pushed through as it was. She feels it shows that McCain will cross party lines to get the right thing done. This time he is going against President Busch. And she respects him for doing that. Just thought I'd report on what I found out from some of the people at Ole Miss.

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    knolyourselfposted 9 years ago

    I didn't say repubicans I said McCain. I didn't say the Dems were innocent, Dem senators voted for and Clinton signed the repeal of the Glass/Segal Act. I didn't say I was democrat. I named the guy mostly responsible, joined at  the hip with McCain. And I didn't take any part whatsoever in any of the current mess. I am innocent.

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    Mishaposted 9 years ago

    Well, you are innocent individually. However, you are guilty (or rather responsible) as a part of American public. smile

    Pretty much like me being A Russian citizen  - responsible for what happens to my country, even though I don't live there for almost ten years. smile

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    sandra rinckposted 9 years ago

    How much sense does it make to vote McCain, who will probably die in office and allow a person whom, we are not allowed to hear speak, be the V.P and or eventually the President?

    This economic crisis is a distraction...

    Are people stoopid or blind or do you really want what is on her agenda, which is war

    Is the world really sick enough to even think that it is in our better intrest?

    If you think she is not saying these things, your wrong.  She is and she does believe that this war is gods war and that Alaska is going be the refuge for the world. 

    Does Gog and Magog ring a bell to anyone???

    She wants more guns for Alaska, she says that God has sent her from under the umbrella of this church

    I seriously can't believe that some people don't get what she is saying. 

    *where is the little smiley guy bitting his nails?*  Can we get one of those?  lol

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      Poppa Bluesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I just think you're just reading too much iinto what's she is saying. I don't think McCain will die in office either! There is still a balance of power and if congress does its job there won't be another war! Remember we will still have a democraticly controlled congress.

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        Mark Knowlesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        You can tell the future now? lol

        As for McCain canceling - this is all a joke. Making out like the whole thing is a surprise or something. The industry knew this was coming from at least 4 years ago. I myself sold my house in the UK 2 years ago, knowing full well this was coming.

        Expect McCain to do what exactly?

        This has been in the making for years, and both political parties have had a hand in it.

        You see the directors and top-echelon politicians hurting financially? No.

        The problem is greed at the top end. Who is going to fix that? lol

        As for war, if it suits the suits, there will be a war. Nothing like a good war to kick start the economy............

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        sandra rinckposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        what democracy? 

        You know, I am not a very religous person.  I don't go to church, I don't wear symbols of authority, I don't fast and I don't give my money to churches that keep it in thier pocket to support thier own kind.

        However, when it comes to the Bible and fully knowing how {insert word here} these followers are, and that they really feel that they need to make the prophies happen, I do take it rather seriously. 

        I do believe in God, I just believe these people are clueless as to what God is and anyone who says that they believe that fear is the heart of love doesn't know love.

        Anyone who says, that this war is God's war is ignorant.  It is something to consider whether you believe in God or not.

        I would much rather be told I am a fool and have things work out, then not say anything at all and have it all go wrong, really, really wrong.  smile

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          Poppa Bluesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          I think you have her quote wrong though she may well believe that she never said she believes that. She said she "prays it's God's war" or something more to that effect. I know what you're saying though and I understand your concern. I certainly wouldn't want anyone in office that believes the voices in their head are the commands of God!
          I'm not a religious person either, I don't believe in the church at all, and any man that claims to know the will of God is a fool. I also don't believe in war, but unlike you, I do believe sometimes violence is warranted, after all if someone is attacking you are you going to fight back or just allow them to do their will to you? Sometimes you have to fight no matter how distasteful that may be.

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            sandra rinckposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            self defense is not a violent act and self defense doesn't teach you to kill.  It teaches you how to disable the person who is theatening you so that you can get away. 

            smile

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              Poppa Bluesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Understood, but that CAN result in death. There is always that risk when violence is used even if that is not the intent!

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    knolyourselfposted 9 years ago

    Born american - born russian - guess it's original sin then.

  17. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 9 years ago

    PB - what are you - blind? I have several times quoted what she said, and linked to a video with her saying it. These are the actual words she said regarding the Iraq war:

    "Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."

    Regarding her son having a tattoo before he left to fight in Iraq:

    "When he turned 18 right before he enlisted, he had to get his first tattoo. And I'm like -- I don't think that's real cool, son. Until he showed me what it was and I thought, oh he did something right, 'cause on his calf, he has a big ol' Jesus fish!"

    I know you cannot be bothered to watch the video, and you "believe," 72 is young, lol but keep on saying what you are saying is making me think you are a good politician.

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    Poppa Bluesposted 9 years ago

    That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."   

    You see you keep doing that! You take the first part of what she's saying and ignore the rest! She qualifies her first statement with the following sentence. You refuse to see it because of your own bias and dislike for all things religious! That just isn't fair!

    Granted she's a very religious person and though I don't share her religious views, I don't believe she's a "nut" that thinks she's sent by God to do God's work and rid the world of all things non-Christian or she has voices in her head that are telling her to bring about the second coming of Christ she must foment war in the Middle East!

    That's just jumping to conclusions!

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    Mark Knowlesposted 9 years ago

    lol

    OK she did not say "Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God."

    You are right, this is not what I have heard her say. She did not say it. No, she did not say this. Did not say it. Not her words. Taken out of context lies. She never said this. These words did not come out of her mouth.

    She never said she was proud of her son going off to war with a Jesus fish tattoo. Lies. Never said it. lol

    Now watch the video. Now look at this:

    "Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that's what we have to make sure that we're praying for.

    That there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."


    That is what she said. You are the one who apparently just cannot believe that any one would say this.

    But she did.

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      Poppa Bluesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Now you're putting words in my mouth! The quote you used was the same one I used, but you're interpreting it to mean something she didn't say! You took the one sentence and that's what you focused on when clearly the sentences that followed shows what she meant was that "we have to pray that there is a plan and that it is God's plan". That's very different then saying "God told me his plan and that's what I'm going to execute"!

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        Mark Knowlesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        I am not putting words in anyone's mouth. Watch the video and listen to what she said. Then after you have watched it, see what you think.

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        sandra rinckposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Does it really matter PB, even if she is not hearing voices in her head, she is saying that the war is necessary,  and she wants it to be God's plan. 

        I see you want to see the good in the bad, but this...this...sad

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          Poppa Bluesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Oh now I don't think what she said means she is saying that the war is necessary, though she may well believe that! I for one was against the war in Iraq. From the outset I could see it was a bad idea both strategically and economically and from a foreign policy standpoint! Strategically we basically eliminated Iran's enemy and opened the door to their greater influence in the region. Even if we claim victory in Iraq, Iran will have a bigger influence in the area! Lets not forget the cost, almost a trillion dollars!
          But can we afford to take one mistake and correct it by making another? After all that we have spent and sacrificed does it make sense to leave now? Like it or not, we need their oil and we didn't go through all this for nothing! Our very way of life requires a continued supply of crude and we are competing with China and India for what's left in the world! This is serious business make no mistake!

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            Mishaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Traders who don't cut their loses short don't last. This refers to countries, too smile

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              Poppa Bluesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Well we have to get what we came for and we are not leaving until we do!

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            sandra rinckposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            I don't know if you got to watch the video yet that Mark lef you, regarding crude...
            Palin also says that Alaska is the richest land in the world.  So it is a serious matter...but we don't need thier oil...Unless of course she is lying again. lol.

            Gosh Poppa Blues you gotta watch the video.

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              Poppa Bluesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              We're 5% of the world's population and we use 25% of the world's production of oil. Believe me we need Alaskan oil and everybody's else's oil too!

              Imagine an America with no gas, heating oil, or electricity. How do you think the people of this country would react if energy was in short supply? If we couldn't have electricity for 24 hours a day? If we had to choose between oil for heat or food? Imagine for just a moment that gas would be in such short supply that you would be rationed to so many gallons a month. We got a small taste of this in the 70s, and I can tell you from personal experience, it wasn't fun! Unless America curbs it's insatiable demand for oil, we're going to need more of it, and we're going to be competing with China and India to get it!

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                Mark Knowlesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Just imagine if they had spent the three trillion dollars on building wind and solar generators in the desert, and a public transport system instead of the Iraq war  sad

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                  Poppa Bluesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Yeah certainly the money could have been better spent. We have 11 trillion dollars of debt at 55 trillion dollars of unfunded liabilities in social security, medicare and medicaid. 3 trillion is a drop in the bucket, but it would have been a step in the right direction!

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                sandra rinckposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Well my question wasn't really about needing the oil it was about Palin using in regards to her speech to the chuch.  Anyways it wouldn't make sense ulness you watch it.

                as for oil,  I have been doing my part to and I have been since I was a kid because it was a problem then and it still is. 

                Really I honestly think that it's the peoples faults for consuming so much oil and water and being wasteful.  I grew up with the 3r's, I do them and eveyone should but I know, I absolutly know that people are just unwilling to do their part. 

                I don't think they are ignorant, I think they are either lazy, they feel like someone else should pick up the slack for them or they are depending on a war so that they can continue living they way that they do.

                smile

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          Ben Bushposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Sandra don't be too sad. Both sides want war. She's just not as shy about it.smile

          1. Mark Knowles profile image61
            Mark Knowlesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            lol

            Personally, I would be a little wary of starting another "religious" war if I had 10 million Muslims living in my country lol

            But no one ever accused the US government of seeing the long term picture smile

            Condaleezza Rice is over here right now picking a fight with the Russians.

            If ever you want to kick start the economy, a war is the traditional way to do it.

            I wonder if we are stupid or powerless enough to let it happen again?

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              Poppa Bluesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Well I can tell you the war has not been good for the economy!! It's cost us plenty and our economy is a mess!

              1. Mark Knowles profile image61
                Mark Knowlesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                The war in Iraq is nothing to do with the economy being in a mess.

                It hasn't cost you a penny.

                Exxon made $11.7 billion in profit in the first quarter of 2008
                Chevron $18.7 billion

                Need I go on?

                And the war in eye-rak is not a proper war. Not nearly enough dead Americans to make it that. It is just an excuse to have 300,000 troops in the Middle East. You think the Russians are not acutely aware of that fact?

                Your favorite Ms. Palin said, and I quote, "John McCain is committed to preventing the eye-ranians from akwiring nukular weapons." lol

                Edit - found an appropriate photo:

                http://markpknowles.com/wp-content/gallery/offensive-to-all/290.jpg

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                  Poppa Bluesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  A couple of oil companies does not an economy make! Believe me, it's costing us!

                  The Iranians obtaining nuclear weapons is a forgone conclusion already. I often wonder why we even bother trying to prevent others from getting them, we have them so naturally everybody wants then too.

                  Not sure what the Russians have to do with anything except maybe they could see we were stretched thin and thought it would be a good time to goad Georgia into a fight. Now there's another mishandled foreign policy debacle by the best and brightest and most experienced America has to offer!

                  1. Misha profile image75
                    Mishaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    Try to imagine 300000 Russian troops on Cuba. Or in Mexico. This might give you an idea of what Russians may be thinking about it smile And Georgia definitely was goaded into a fight, but not by Russians...

  20. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 9 years ago

    " Both sides want war." What's the other side.

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      Ben Bushposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The other side of the American political coin, the Democrats.

  21. Misha profile image75
    Mishaposted 9 years ago

    Don't worry, you'll get a mouthful and then some. But not of what you wanted, though big_smile

  22. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 9 years ago

    "The Iranians obtaining nuclear weapons is a forgone conclusion already." Proof if you please. 
    "The other side of the American political coin, the Democrats."
    We know Obama wants more war - Afghanistan, another catastrophe they will never win.

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    sandra rinckposted 9 years ago

    Just watched Palin with Katie on CNN. 

    daddadddadaddd, umm...Oh yeah, you see cause, umm...Russia, umm...well they are right next to us... umm....

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      Poppa Bluesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I like Tina Fay's impersonation..."I can see Russia from my house" LOL! Great line!

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    hubby7posted 9 years ago

    Whether McCain's suspended his campaign to keep Palin from having to debate only McCain himself knows. Why he did it nobody really knows. All we can do is speculate. As far as I am concerned, I believe that the whole thing is hogwash. It's just a mere alibi to avoid debating! One pattern of McCain's character seem to be that of being very whimsical or, as my wife put it,"impulsive". He seemed to have chosen Sarah Palin on  a whim and he also seems to have cancelled the debate on impulse. The guy seems unpredictable! What will he do next? I read somewhere--and I did not say this myself--that some people wonder whether John's McCain is operating with a full deck or whether his brain goes to the top floor? I wonder. sad

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    profilerposted 9 years ago

    War is a traditional way of kick start an economy!

    It's a really capitalist way too! War industries do billions in profits and thousands of people get a new job. The state gets revenue in taxes and a boost in confidence (in the beggining at least...).

    Of course it's not the human way to do it (and I don't really believe God's way as well), but who said Humanity has something to do with America nowadays...

    My only problem with this thing is my country can get on the crossfire between the american and the middle-eastern wackos...

    ps. - as for the beggining question in the thread, it's probably a ploy smile

 
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