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What was before the Big Bang? GOD!

  1. ytbot1x profile image61
    ytbot1xposted 5 years ago

    Please elaborate, amateur atheists. You have no chop! lol Go back home to this one wink

    1. Paul Wingert profile image79
      Paul Wingertposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      roll

      1. ytbot1x profile image61
        ytbot1xposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        cool

        1. Paul Wingert profile image79
          Paul Wingertposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Gods weren't invented until the post stone age.

          1. psycheskinner profile image80
            psycheskinnerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            IMHO we don't really know for sure when animism coalesced into deism.

          2. C-ing Eye profile image58
            C-ing Eyeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I will pray that you receive more wisdom. My prayers are always answered, but not usually right away. This one could be a while, but I hope it is today!

      2. A Troubled Man profile image61
        A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        +1

        1. AndReall profile image60
          AndReallposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          lol

      3. C-ing Eye profile image58
        C-ing Eyeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Smiley face fist fight!

    2. Nisha Jacob profile image61
      Nisha Jacobposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Very interesting Question

      Where it happened? How?

    3. nightwork4 profile image61
      nightwork4posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      what was before god and how was it created? sorry bud but not every atheist believes in the big bang so your assumptions also show your ignorance. now go play child.

      1. ytbot1x profile image61
        ytbot1xposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        You're free to exit. No need to ask for permission, junior.

      2. ytbot1x profile image61
        ytbot1xposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Just to help you dispel your ignorance (Atheists aren't empathic, are they?)-

        1) If God exists (which many can assert that this is the case), then It must be outside Time and Space. If there is Time, then we have a linear progression of actions, things being created, then coming into existence etc. For God, who created Time, this linear progression doesn't apply. To put it simply, God is infinite.

        2) As for the case of ' assumptions' -  you simply have missed the interesting split. Be happy with whatever little you could take.

        1. Jerami profile image74
          Jeramiposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          If there is Time, then we have a linear progression of actions, things being created, then coming into existence etc.
          = - =
          "IF" anything is eternal ; I would think that time would have to be linear in at least two directions.
          Not suggesting that it is,    "Just saying"    "Seems like"

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            Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            That's cool Jeramie. Time expanding in two directions explains a lot of things in a very interesting manner.

            Another thought. Could time be expanding at different rates, on either end?

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              jomineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              How will be the clocks hands when time expands in two directions, moving vertically and horizontally?
              You know my local time slowed two days before and stopped altogether yesterday, so I have to take it to a time mechanic. Unfortunately for me, the office time didn't slowed, but fortunately my home time too didn't slowed.

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                Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Clocks aren't time. They measure time by our understanding of it. And the way it affects our lives as we live them.

                It is just a question, anyway. We can't reinvent the clock until we find a different understanding of time. Maybe what we already see is what we get, and the clock is perfect as it is. smile

                1. A Troubled Man profile image61
                  A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  One of things we understand about time is that it actually has no effect on us whatsoever, nada, zilch. However, physical changes within us and our external environment do affect us and as you say, time measures those changes.

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                  jomineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  The clocks do not measure, its hands just move and we are doing the measuring, from our pre-conceived idea(that is, it is the motion of clock arms, we are taking as time).
                  Better clock? just look above(caution: only during morning or evening, never at noon, and should be in an open space), there is the ultimate clock to which we all must adjust the time. smile

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                    Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    You do realize that nit picking is pointless? Of course we are the ones using the information to calculate time.

            2. Jerami profile image74
              Jeramiposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              sorry I missed this earlier  ...  I can't sit for long   which leads to A.D.D.  When I was younger I called this multi tasking, Now it is feels like senility.   What was I going in there for ???

              I can't imagine time not having more than one path.   
              I think that time would have different speeds on each end.   And in many places in between.
              Time is relative with the speed of light.  as light travels through the universe it does not maintain a constant speed. The speed of light is constant only in a vacume and when unaffected by gravitational forces.   So I would think that "TIME" might be different on different planets with different gravitational forces?    I don't know ???    Jet Lag on a galactic scale ??

              1. A Troubled Man profile image61
                A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                That is false, gravity does NOT affect the speed of light, but instead affects the energy, hence the frequency of light. As light approaches a gravity well, it shifts to the blue spectrum as it gains energy and then shifts to the red spectrum upon moving away from the well as it loses energy.

                1. Jerami profile image74
                  Jeramiposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Why don't you go and straighten out all those Quantum Physicists

                  I think I hear them calling out for your help.

                  1. A Troubled Man profile image61
                    A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Why? They already understand that.

                  2. AndReall profile image60
                    AndReallposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    They don't like a dog for assistance lol

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                jomineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Time is what we define, just like a meter is what we define it to be. For us a day is one rotation of earth and a year is one revolution. We assigned a day to be 24hrs for our convenience, it could have been 10 or 20hrs.

            3. C-ing Eye profile image58
              C-ing Eyeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              No, it is a one way trip.

        2. getitrite profile image78
          getitriteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          ...then He got mad, and drowned the whole world, and commanded the death of homosexuals, and people who  work on the sabbath, ...then killed innocent women and children.  Yeah!  Makes perfect sense.
          amen

          1. pisean282311 profile image54
            pisean282311posted 5 years agoin reply to this

            lol obviously if u live beyond time and space with nothing to do  and then u cause explosion to kill boredom and create thinking beings with intention to have slaves who have nothing to do but praise ur insane ego ...getting mad is natural outcome...what do u think god was born mad or god became mad afterwords?...oh i forgot god was never born...god always existed ...something from nothing is crazy concept for universe but perfectly acceptable for god!!!!!!!!!!

            1. getitrite profile image78
              getitriteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              I guess it doesn't matter that god is a raging, angry psychopath...we still have to worship him, and pretend he is a god of love, because, he made a bad place for those who don't believe, and according to ytbot1x, there is scientific proof that he exists.  This is cause to be sad.

    4. psycheskinner profile image80
      psycheskinnerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      How would one be a professional atheist?

      1. AndReall profile image60
        AndReallposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        This.

  2. pisean282311 profile image54
    pisean282311posted 5 years ago

    in programming when we have undefined variable in few languages it is assumed ...in same way ur theory assumed a constant called god....what was before big bang ...answer god....ok...so who created god?...another assumption....none ...god was always there....who said so?...well bible says so...ok....world of assumptions and no proof is what religion is all about...keep going kid ...someday u would find constant called god lol

    1. ytbot1x profile image61
      ytbot1xposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Are you sure that there has been a Big Bang?

      1. pisean282311 profile image54
        pisean282311posted 5 years agoin reply to this

        no i dont get hurt from kids...i understand from which view point they come...i have lot of patience for you ...u wuld some day see life for what it is , rather than living in fanatasy of god theme....

        1. ytbot1x profile image61
          ytbot1xposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          YOUR first fantasy is the belief in a Big Bang. I am discontinuing the exploration of your other beliefs that you have just mentioned here.

          1. pisean282311 profile image54
            pisean282311posted 5 years agoin reply to this

            your laughing gives me hope...thanks man...i am sure some day you would really come out of fantasies and be real...m glad...

            1. ytbot1x profile image61
              ytbot1xposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              You're visibly getting jerks now.

              1. pisean282311 profile image54
                pisean282311posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                i am at home...dont feel so uncomfortable kid....keep praying to ur imaginary being....may be some day u would see light ...by the way harry potter is better than books u read...lol

                1. ytbot1x profile image61
                  ytbot1xposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  "your laughing gives me hope...thanks man...i am sure some day you would really come out of fantasies and be real...m glad..."

                2. ytbot1x profile image61
                  ytbot1xposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Give up junior, you can't hang. Tell the headquarters to give you better training. You are miserable at your job of trolling. A troll should be at least rational.

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    Emile Rposted 5 years ago

    I'm confused. How did you come to that as the only conclusion?

    1. ytbot1x profile image61
      ytbot1xposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Read carefully. The answers are there.

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        Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I've read the thread. You still haven't explained why God is the only possible conclusion.

        I don't have a problem if God exists, or if he doesn't. I do have a problem with faulty conclusions. If the Big Bang marked the beginning of our universe; it doesn't follow that God exists.

        1. ytbot1x profile image61
          ytbot1xposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Deleted

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            Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            About your third fantasy is your belief that you know what someone else believes. This is apparently a troll thread. Have fun trolling.

            1. ytbot1x profile image61
              ytbot1xposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Indeed, this thread has attracted a lot of trolls. One of the striking features of these trolls is their lack of common courtesy.

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                Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Attracted? lol Replace has attracted a lot of trolls with was started by a troll and you'll have made your first  statement on this thread that has supporting evidence.

                1. AndReall profile image60
                  AndReallposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  What about sustained by trolls? lol

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                    Emile Rposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Oddly, most of the people posting do participate in interesting exchanges when the opportunity arises. There have been some fascinating comments made on this thread by people ignoring your troll behavior and pointless questions. And,I don't think I've used the troll word but a couple of times on this site. Most people scream troll when someone disagrees. (which I find to be childish) Rarely does someone fit my definition of a troll. I guess that makes you unique, to a degree.

              2. A Troubled Man profile image61
                A Troubled Manposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Hmmm... it says you've been banned from Hubpages. Curious.

                1. pisean282311 profile image54
                  pisean282311posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  thats not fair...he was growing up...but i think this kid keeps getting banned and keeps coming back with new user....

                  1. psycheskinner profile image80
                    psycheskinnerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    I think that course of action constitutes not growing up--it is more like having a month long tantrum.

  4. AndReall profile image60
    AndReallposted 5 years ago

    This thread has attracted a lot of trolls? Who says? lol

    1. psycheskinner profile image80
      psycheskinnerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Probably one of the few participants who aren't trolls.

      1. AndReall profile image60
        AndReallposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Does that include you? lol

  5. Jerami profile image74
    Jeramiposted 5 years ago

    Imagine a fire cracker going off. All of the actions and elements travel outwardly ; in at least three dimintions  there is a measurable rate in which these elements and actions loose their effects and or speed of travel depending upon the amount of resistence it incounters. Sound will travel farther in one direction than in the other.

    Throw a rock into a pond. It too affects its enviroment in every direction (at least three dimentionally) BUT Its forces are in operation for a much longer period of time in only two dimentions.due to the resistance it encounters.
    Now consider the distance between the circles of waves as measurements of time. When you reach the sourse from which the circles originate we then;  and only then see how the third dimention  plays into and affects the other two dimentions.

    When we are in a sailboat being pushed by the wave, we do not see the depth of the situation.

       It just seems right to me, IF time is a reality in this physical world , it would have to be at least two dimentional?

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      jomineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      You are right, for time to be a reality, it should have 3 dimensions and location. Two dimensions will make it a reality, as a picture.

      1. Jerami profile image74
        Jeramiposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Just had a brain fart.   Thinking out loud kind of thingie.
        What if time IS three dimentional.  It already is what it will ever be ..  an already dun deal.              Time only SEEMS to be expanding or progressing because it is us that is moving or progressing, kinda like an ant walking across a road map.  Time is the road map.

        As we march across time, we are creating the artwork, even new roads for others to follow if they choose.  And if they choose, they have an erasor  and so do I.

 
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