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Killing an animal is a ruthless act. Why then do Muslims consume non-vegetarian

  1. Uplifterx profile image60
    Uplifterxposted 4 years ago

    I never figured out, despite my experience of living a lifespan of 45 years, why humans kill and torture animals for food. Why do Muslims and Christians still practice killing animals for meat? Is that allowed in their so-called religions of mercy? They should better learn from the Buddhists and other Eastern religions.

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      Sarra Garrettposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Apparently you've never been hungry.  I hunt and fish all year round.  It's not torture, it's an instant kill. Humans are meant to eat meat and have been for centuries.  I don't kill something unless I am going to eat it and yes I skin and tan the pelts and hides.  I'm going to be homeless next week and my only survival is to kill for my food.  That's why the animal was put here on earth to eat.  Now I am opposed to the few that kill for the fun of it...they are twisted in the head.  But for survival and to put food on the table there is no torture or inhumane act about it.  One shot One Kill, if you wound you'd better hunt that sucker down and kill it.  Waste not want not.

      1. Uplifterx profile image60
        Uplifterxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        You would kill because you agree to kill. It's a choice. You could do other things as well to save yourself from hunger.

        I agree hunger makes a bad irritant. I had been once hungry for 3 days. I didn't take anything except water, absolutely nothing. But I didn't kill any animal. I tried for alternatives.

        God created fruits and seeds as well, and an array of natural food.

        Of course, violence comes easy. And violence is profitable as well. No wonder that people kill animals for food, and then rationalize their cruelty.

    2. jponiato profile image83
      jponiatoposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I'll reply with what an Indian (as in, person from India) friend said to me once: "I eat meat for religious reasons.  If God had not wanted me to eat meat, he wouldn't have given me incisors."

      1. Uplifterx profile image60
        Uplifterxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        As if you don't need them to pierce through a pizza.

    3. Greek One profile image77
      Greek Oneposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Meat is yummy

      1. BLACKANDGOLDJACK profile image83
        BLACKANDGOLDJACKposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Exactly. I like my steak. What, should we eat people?

        1. psycheskinner profile image80
          psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          You could of course eat non-meat food.

          These are matters of personal choice, between clearly available alternatives,

          1. BLACKANDGOLDJACK profile image83
            BLACKANDGOLDJACKposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Right. I can munch on a spare rib or a stick of celery.

            This time of year I'm more concerned about hitting a deer with my Jeep than I am about the price of rabbit food.

            1. psycheskinner profile image80
              psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              It is, nevertheless, a clearly available option.

              So you could just say clearly  why you made the choice you made, rather than suggesting there are no real options.

  2. Greek One profile image77
    Greek Oneposted 4 years ago

    I advise AGAINST eating people...

    you never know where some of them have been hanging around

    1. Uplifterx profile image60
      Uplifterxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Beautiful minds think alike.

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    Emile Rposted 4 years ago

    We own a custom processing facility and I can assure you the animals are not tortured. It is a quick death.

    I hope your views don't get much traction, since it would be incredibly bad for business, but to each their own.

    1. Uplifterx profile image60
      Uplifterxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      It's easy to rationalize.

      1. jponiato profile image83
        jponiatoposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Because it's rational.

        1. Uplifterx profile image60
          Uplifterxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Because for some people it's rational to rationalize cruelty.

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        Emile Rposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I'm not rationalizing. I don't suffer guilt from enjoying a piece of red meat. I'm sorry if this offends your sensibilities. I'm a little confused why you've posted this in a religious forum. Stomachs and taste buds don't ponder these things. Nor do most people.

        Enjoy your carrots. I'll enjoy my meat. I don't consider you hypocritical for putting one life form above another. We all have to eat.

        1. Uplifterx profile image60
          Uplifterxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          That's true. But killing a living, conscious animal is entirely different from killing a mushroom plant.

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            Emile Rposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Says you.

            1. psycheskinner profile image80
              psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              On what basis is killing a sentience being indistinguishable from killing a non-sentient one?

              It would be nice to see more rationality in discussions.  I also eat meat in small amounts.  I do it because hedonism/enjoyment overpowers my moderate level of guilt for killing thinking beings unnecessarily.

              But at least I am honest about it. I don't try to change the facts to make my behavior seem morally unproblematic.

              1. jponiato profile image83
                jponiatoposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Please don't write this question off as snark or sarcasm, because I really want to know the answer.  Is it immoral when a bear eats a fish?

                1. psycheskinner profile image80
                  psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  On a deontological front, morality belongs to the person.  The "bear" person is incapable of feeling the duty to protect sentient life.  So: no.  Bear can kill fish, can even kill bear, without being immoral.  The human person would need to refer to a basis by which they have the right to eat the fish when the fish does not want to be eaten (e.g. religious dominion, God wants it).

                  On a utilitarian front, the bear person must consume fish to live.  The human person has no such need (in the first world).

                  1. jponiato profile image83
                    jponiatoposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    I appreciate the answer, and don't disagree, except to a nit-picky bit:  Bears, like humans, are omnivores - they can survive by eating berries, grains, etc. and strictly speaking, do not have to eat fish to survive.  To your point though, they probably don't consciously ponder the implications.

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                Emile Rposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                I see it as arrogance. What makes us special? What makes life forms who are more similar to us than others more special? Nothing, in my opinion.

                We kill to eat. It is what we are. Everyone does it.

                1. psycheskinner profile image80
                  psycheskinnerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  So to be more neutral, you are arguing a naturalist right to eat the diet you have evolved to eat.  That is a perfectly valid argument to make.  But it is your personal ethic which and other people will not share it or will consider it a fallacy. For example they could say your are also evolved to raise or hunt your own food and be devoured by tigers.  But these parts of the natural are okay to sacrifice?

                  1. Uplifterx profile image60
                    Uplifterxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    Some people would love to hunt their own food.

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                    Emile Rposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    I'm not arguing the right to eat the diet I evolved to eat. All I'm saying is that all life is life. All death is death. We aren't as superior as we want to believe. Death must happen for life to go on. Who decides that a cow has more right to life than a soy bean? We do. Why? 

                    I'm not suggesting we starve ourselves out of consideration of other life. I'm simply saying we kill to eat. We kill because we don't want to coexist with bugs in our homes. We kill because 60 miles an hour suits our fancy more than saving the skunks and opossums. To pretend that being a vegetarian is somehow a more humane way of life is pretending.

  4. Repairguy47 profile image60
    Repairguy47posted 4 years ago

    P E T A

    People Eating Tasty Animals!

  5. FatFreddysCat profile image92
    FatFreddysCatposted 4 years ago

    If the good Lord didn't want us to eat the animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat... or so darned tasty.

 
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