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separation of church and state

  1. cheesybigmac profile image60
    cheesybigmacposted 5 years ago

    Do any of you out there think we should separate the church and state, or allow the two to coexist with one another? Personally I don't think it should matter.  My opinion is that if you work in some kind of government office and you need a quick prayer to get you through the rest of a rough day, or even a good one< just bow your head and say a quick prayer and then keep on going.

  2. Jerami profile image72
    Jeramiposted 5 years ago

    The state should have no controll over church business as long as they are not breaking any laws, and the church should have no controll over state business

       In a democratic society they must coexist in an intergrated fashion

    1. The0NatureBoy profile image54
      The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Any and all separations bring about prejudices which ends in some form of conflict.  If we integrate church with state but abiding by the first amendment's requirement, so long as one is functioning according to the bylaws of their religious group which does no harm to others, no law is to be made nor court decisions is to be issued in an attempt to stop it will suffice and we can become a nation of peace. 

      I completely concur with you.

  3. cheesybigmac profile image60
    cheesybigmacposted 5 years ago

    I agree Jerami, the better they coexist the better society they will function as a whole and possibly run smoother altogether.

  4. psycheskinner profile image82
    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    Separation of church and state *is* a form of coexistence that stops either from controlling the other.

  5. wilderness profile image97
    wildernessposted 5 years ago

    If your idea of coexisting means a quick moment of silent prayer I find no difference between that and sitting back for a few deep breaths, which I am prone to doing.

    If instead, it means that anyone or everyone around "respect" your silence and inattentiveness with their own silence or halt to other activity, forget it.  If you mean that you need religious icons strewen all over the public landscape to keep you happy, no.  If you mean that anyone else participate in your prayer (the beginning of a public lunch, perhaps) then you have crossed the line.  You cannot reasonably expect any form of public recognition, participation in or adherence to your religious principles.

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    Emile Rposted 5 years ago

    Define quick. I don't think a short silent and private prayer is prohibited in a government work place. If you are consistently sitting at your desk with your head bowed maybe they think you are sleeping. That could create a problem.

  7. Paul Wingert profile image78
    Paul Wingertposted 5 years ago

    Combining church and state and we end up like the insane Middle Eastern countries. We have enough insane, religious nuts in our government already!

  8. scottcgruber profile image78
    scottcgruberposted 5 years ago

    Government offices in the United States allow their employees to pray whenever they want. This is a fundamental right protected by the First Amendment. It is also irrelevant to the concept of separation of church and state.

    Separation of church and state means that these two very powerful entities must not be integrated. The framers of our Constitution inserted the Establishment Clause to prevent the government from creating a state religion, having seen the abuses and corruption this had enabled in the monarchy they had just gained independence from.  When government and a religion are too close, dangerous things happen. Government can use its power to enforce belief, and religion can use its power to suppress dissent.

    They can coexist with each other, talk about each other, in some cases even work together for the common good. These are all allowed under the separation of church and state. They just can't be too close.

    Ideally, government and religion should be wary adversaries rather than allies. This relationship is ultimately better for both of them.

    But the separation of church and state doesn't mean a government employee can't pray quietly in his cubicle, or while facing Mecca in the break room. Prohibiting these activities would be a violation of the First Amendment, and violate the separation of church and state.

    1. The0NatureBoy profile image54
      The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      You are so correct concerning the intent of the nation's founders.  However, what is happening in this nation is The Beast, who is responsible for most things happening in this nation, has bought the government's 3 fractions and sometimes write the laws they pass -- {as lobbyists} -- is the hidden reality behind both secular and religious teachings.  Therefore, since we don't know they are behind them we don't know there is no separation except in the minds of people.  What the founders sought to prevent is happening in such a way most man can't see it.