Man was never to eat of the tree of life.

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   Gnostic Bishopposted 9 years ago

   Man was never to eat of the tree of life.
   
   I do not think man was ever intended to eat of the tree of life and you will note that nowhere in scriptures is it’s lose bemoaned.
   
   We came out of Eden being as Gods and knowing all that he knows. God’s own words in this myth. They have become as Gods.
   
   We are then denied the ability to have that knowledge live forever as it would make man stagnate at whatever level of knowledge he had then, or even now if we extrapolate the story to where we are all Adams. Our knowledge continues to evolve.
   
   The archetypal God in this myth does not want man to idolize his own knowledge as that would stifle progress. We are to perpetually raise the bar and not make an unchangeable immortal idol of what we know. We are to deny ourselves the immortality of our ideas and knowledge. They, like man, are to evolve forever.
   
   I bet you never thought of this myth that way.
   
   Can you see it?
   
   Regards
   DL

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      Deborah Sextonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes they were. God put both in the garden and told them they could eat from the Tree of Life, but not the Tree of The Knowledge of Good and Evil. They chose the latter. If they had chosen the Tree of Life, they would have lived forever, like the angels. They chose immediate gratification of the flesh over eternal life.
      It was Mankind's choice, not God's
      They didn't know everything God did, they knew dualism, choices, good and evil which led to confusion
      Genesis 2:9-17
      9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
      16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: (including the Tree of Life)
      17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it....
      
      What myth ?

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         Paul Wingertposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Wow. What myth? The myth that people with half a brain stopped believing in after ditching Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny. Or do you still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny?
         First of all the Biblical creation story is a ripoff from a much earlier Sumerian creation story called the Eridu Genesis. The Gods created humans, got pissed and killed them all with a flood. It's all there and it appears again in the Sumerian text, The Epic of Gilgamesh. If you research Hebrew mythology, you'll learn that God, aka El, aka Yahweh was one of  many gods worshiped by the ancient Canaanites. Something your poorly educated, control freak pastor didn't tell you. Of course he'll deny it all. He'd be out of a job if he didn't. One classic sign of a cult leader is that they'll tell you that everything you hear or read about outside of the church is a lie! He want's to keep his sheep naive and brainwashed so the won't go out and "open their eyes".

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   jacharlessposted 9 years ago

   Hmm.
   
   Ok. Firstly, two "trees" in the garden. Not one to touch, and another behind the museum glass to stare at only. Secondly, Adam was not forbidden either tree. He was however warned that eating/indulging Knowledge would kill him. As effect, if he had been allowed to eat of the tree of life -thus remaining immortal- the effect of said indulgence of that knowledge in him would have become immortal.
   
   This strongly suggests all necessary knowledge was/is born into the human. There is no "new" knowledge he is gaining. Reason, what most call learning, information evolution, is simply connecting various threads of existing information already within. And there are a billion-billion threads.
   
   One very important thing to note is the need for restoration, which occurred, and "Access Granted" once more to the tree of life. For that access to happen, a "renewing of the mind" must take place aka a reboot / caging of the ego (ha-satan). Wherefore, the human comes out of the madness of reason into the stillness and bliss of understanding. This is well known as stepping "into the light" or becoming "enlightened".
   
   I see no myth in that. The myth, dear Gnostic, is believing it is not possible; believing we are merely momentary blips of existence; an anomaly of nature; an accident waiting to destroy itself or evolve into some mechanical hybrid designed from the garbled threads of thought given to [him] for no apparent "reason" save entertainment until death do them part...
   
   Cheers,
   James

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      Deborah Sextonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

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      Really, James ? What bible are you reading? Mine says God forbade them to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
      
      Genesis 2:9
      And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
      Genesis 2:16:17
      16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
      17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
      
      Isaiah says God tells us new things
      Isaiah 48:6-7
      6 Thou hast heard, see all this; and will not ye declare it? I have shewed thee new things from this time, even hidden things, and thou didst not know them.
      7 They are created now, and not from the beginning; even before the day when thou heardest them not; lest thou shouldest say, Behold, I knew them.
      
      The tree of the knowledge of good and evil, made us see duality, choices, which brought confusion, not the ability to know all things

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   jacharlessposted 9 years ago

   Actually, the correct translation is: warned, not commanded/forbidden.
   Like all things, we are not forbidden anything. To forbade breaks the rule of free will and imparts the rule law, which was not in effect when man was first created. We are, however, strongly warned and often effected by the consequences of various indulgences of ha-satan. Adam is strongly warned not to indulge his thoughts because the moment he did so, he would lose his immortality/be stripped of his glory (the Creators glory showing in him) and die, like the rest of natural world, which is restricted by time/season. Second, as effect of indulgence, he was blocked from the TOL lest death become immortal/never-ending and humanity have no chance at restoration to the stasis of perfection.
   
   Yes, duality, reason. A house divided in itself cannot remain standing. Adam essentially went mad, bombarded by a billion-billion perfectly designed strands of information sown in him by Creator, so he would lack no necessary information, would understand himself and Creator without struggle, search or hesitation/doubt. Again, all necessary information. I never made mention of knowing all things, so please read correctly...
   
   James

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      Deborah Sextonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

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      No, it's not the correct translation
      Try not reading translations

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   mishpatposted 9 years ago

   Just for fun I used an on-line translator for the above.  Here's what I got:
   
   "A Gulf Summit in Riyadh furniture company crop-dusting company in Riyadh a Saudi pest termite control company in Riyadh Riyadh tanks insulation co. Inc. detect leaks in Riyadh"
   
   Guess it makes as much sense as some other comments here.

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      jacharlessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      LOL. That was funny.

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