What do the Scriptures of Matthew 5:17-20 actually mean in relation to the New

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   SheliaKayposted 13 years ago

   What do the Scriptures of  Matthew 5:17-20 actually mean in relation to the New Testament?
   
   Matthew 5:18 (KJV) "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled". According to this scripture the old laws should be obeyed until the end of time ( My interpretation anyway), so why do most Christians disregard the Old Testament? or, follow some laws and not others. Does this scripture mean the New Testament is against Gods laws?
   
   

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   randslamposted 13 years ago

   First, there is a warning at the end of this book about "private interpretation" that curses anyone that tries to interpret this book with their own opinion.  The curse is so vile that everyone that is related to you, including yourself, will be eliminated from existence.  So trying to interpret the bible is some dangerous ground--but if one wishes to risk the venture--what the heck--too many people on the planet anyway, right?
   Secondly, if one reads the narrative of the gospel story we discover that the sacrifice of the messianic Jesus was the "fulfillment" of the law--"it is finished"--and a new command "I give to you, that you love one another."
   Personally, I tried from a very young age to live very literally from the words of the book and quite frankly it isn't a very easy ride.  Religion isn't the key to world peace, the bible is likely not what it proclaims itself to be other than good literature, but more of a compilation of fascinating writing by multiple authors.  Is it the word of a god?  Not likely--but the misinterpretation of the text have at least kept mankind busy killing, fighting, hating and envying one another in the name of god or allah for a very long time.

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   thegoodnewzzposted 13 years ago

   I'm sorry I don't have a lot of time right now to write a long explanation but I wanted to touch base on your question. SheliaKay you are partially right in your interpretation of what this scriptural selection is speaking to. I say partial because; yes, the law is still in effect for the world, but no, because anyone who has accepted in their heart the atoning work of Christ on the cross is freed from the law. (Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.)  Everyone is guilty of sin because all fall short of the glory of God but the blood of Christ washes us in His righteousness.
   
   And to randslam; I would just like to ask what you are talking about when it comes to interpretation? Of course people are to interpret what the bible says. Otherwise no one would ever know what it says. Also I believe, that is if I'm correct, that your referencing Rev 22:18-19? If so, it says nothing to do with interpretations, but rather it speaks to "adding" or "removing" from the text specifically. Let me know if I misunderstood the text which you were speaking of. And BTW the Bible is true and accurate, but that's for another day and time...
   
   Blessings,
   Kevin

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   SheliaKayposted 13 years ago

   Thank you randslam and the goodnewzz for your response. Believe me I am no bible scholar and do consider myself an agnostic.  I have been researching the difference between Christianity, and Judaism. According to Jewish belief, the "Torah" ( first 5 books of the old testament) also known as "Gods law" should not be changed.  As stated in Matthew 5:17-20 Jesus did not come to destroy the law, or the prophets but to fulfill it, and he states he who breaks one of the commandants will not go to heaven. This is where my confusion comes in. Didn't Jesus break the laws himself by healing the sick on the Sabbath, and was the old laws discounted or changed by the teachings of Jesus when it is written "verily I say unto you till all be fulfilled  Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law".   It is just so hard for me to believe in something that makes no since at all.

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   trecords0posted 13 years ago

   To me this means that we are predetermined to have freewill; which means everything is predestined but you have freewill to accept or deny it.  Everything is as it is for reasons beyond our comprehension.  As for the curse answer: good and evil are temporal-centric so the nature of the meaning of "curse" would negate itself, meaning curses don't exist.

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   manatita44posted 11 years ago

   The 'Law' in essence, is what governs us. Christ spoke of Oneness. He is a part of the plan, not separate from it. As God's son He came to shed an infinitely Higher Light. Still, He was not interested in a separation game. He knew that we are all God's children. However, He points out to us the necessity of obeying the Law; being righteous for the Kingdom of heaven's sake.
   Let me take this opportunity to encourage us to pray. It is the Spirit that guides us in all things. It is not always necessary or indeed wise, to dwell too much on things that may confuse us. Let us love, serve and pray. Help will come.

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   Norine Williamsposted 10 years ago

   Shelia:  Read Gal 3 but in particular verse 24, which says, "Wherefore, the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith."  When you initially come to Christ, you learn the basics, as we did in school, as we did with the OT.  When Jesus spoke in Matt 5:17-20, He had not yet gone to the Cross!  Did you not hear him say in verse 17 that He "..did not come to destroy the law, or the prophets; I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill?"  He fulfilled the law when He went to the Cross and shed His Blood for the remission of our sins!  Verse 18 says "...till all be fulfilled..."  Did He not fulfill the law by the shedding of His Blood? 
   
   Now, you must look at the laws under the New Covenant.  Go to Jeremiah 31:33 (OT); Hebrew 8:10 and 10:16 which says, "This is the covenant that I will make with them AFTER THOSE DAYS (after He went to the Cross under the New Covenant: Grace and Truth), saith the Lord, I will put MY LAWS into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them."  In John 14:26 Jesus said, "But the Comforter, who is THE HOLY SPIRIT, whom the Father will send in MY NAME, he shall TEACH YOU ALL THINGS, AND BRING ALL THINGS TO YOUR REMEMBRANCE, WHATEVER I HAVE SAID UNTO YOU."  And He did in Acts Chapters 1 and 2 when the FIRST CHURCH was established!     
   
   Shelia, the OT is Jesus concealed and the NT is Jesus revealed!  One cannot disregard the OT when the prophets were speaking of His coming; when It is "our schoolmaster!"  However, in order to understand the Scripture one needs to pray and ask God for the Holy Spirit which will "...teach you all things..." Recall when Jesus was fulfilling the law while on earth, He fulfilled laws and under the NEW COVENANT He said, "I will put MY LAWS into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them."  Revelation of Scripture is now being given individuals that has never been revealed before!  Such as baptism!  When the FIRST CHURCH was established, the apostles ONLY baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus and I am finding many Christians that have received the same revelation as well!  The Holy Spirit is AWESOME!  It does "lead and guide us into ALL truth."   WE SERVE AN AWESOME GOD!   
   
   I pray that the "Holy Spirit" lead and guide you into ALL Truth!  Stay Blessed!

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   Stiksruleposted 7 years ago

   Dear Sheila,
   
   I felt the need to shed some light...the Messiah has come as a loud cry for salvation. He is not interested in the brood of vipers/Pharisees (aka current day cryto Jews) misinterpreted and corrupt view of Moses's law and was here to expose the corruption. The law of the sabbath remains the same however and the message he was sending to them was this:
   
   Matthew 12
   
   11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have a sheep, and if it fall on a Sabbath day into a pit, will not take it and lift it out?
   
   12 How much more then is a man better than a sheep? Therefore, it is lawful to do well on a Sabbath day.
   
   13 Then said he to the man, Stretch forth thy hand. And he stretched it forth, and it was made whole as the other.
   
   He was exposing their hearts and showing the creator's heart by wanting to save his own sheep, you and I, when we fall in a ditch or are lost and wandering.
   
   Hope this helps!
   Rebecca

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