Why is the Book Laviticus more important than what Jesus The Christ says?

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   Lady Guinevereposted 11 years ago

   Why is the Book Laviticus more important than what Jesus The Christ says?
   
   I have seen many people use the scripture from Laviticus and telling us all that those laws in it are supposed to be for us today.  I understand some of how those laws came about and things are very different today.  Jesus didn't give laws agains certain types of food.  He said everything in moderation.

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   CalebSparksposted 11 years ago

   No, the Old Testament Law is not binding upon us today. Jesus Christ made obedience to the Law as a requirement for salvation obsolete by His death on the cross and subsequent resurrection. Anyone who teaches that believers must live by the OT Law is in violation of the clear teaching of the New Testament.
   
   Also, Jesus Christ never said "everything in moderation" either. Jesus gave specific commands concerning some things and left the rest to be covered by the New Testament books and the Holy Spirit.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Works is the Law and the Law is works
      James 2
      20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
      24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
      26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith wit

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   Ericdierkerposted 11 years ago

   When we argue, we must justify a thought or position. When we prosecute under the law we have no need to justify our position, it is law. Pharisees, Sadducee s, Scribes and High Priests love the law so they can dictate. Now Churches love their laws so they can dictate.
   For a modern day true Christian there is only one law. Love.
   If you do not love the food you eat it is bad for you. If you eat what someone says is bad ---- what then? Do we pick fruit and eat on the Sabbath? Does your mother bake bread that you love and an apple pie on Sunday? What goes in us is never bad, what comes out may well be.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      James 2
      8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
      
      9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
      
      10 For whosoever shall keep th

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      celafoeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      DS  the Royal Law is the Law of Christ.     It is grace, mercy and love for one another.   The Perfect Law of Liberty, to redemption, not the law of Moses which was condemnation

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   glynch1posted 11 years ago

   Caleb,
   Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness (Gen. 15:6). The Law did not come on the scene for another 400 years, so how could obeying it be a requirement for salvation? No, salvation has always been by grace through faith; no one has ever obtained it by keeping the Law. The purpose of the Law was to show people that they were sinners, that they could not measure up to God's standard: perfection.

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      CalebSparksposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I was not saying a person could keep the law and be saved. It was always impossible to keep the whole law. Yes, salvation has always been by grace through faith.
      
      Sorry I confused you there.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      James 2
      14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
      17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
      18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy f

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   Porshadoxusposted 11 years ago

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   Brenda Durhamposted 11 years ago

   You're trying to separate a book in the Bible from Jesus's teachings.    They're all Jesus's teachings.   They all came from inspiration from God/Jesus (yep; both Old and New Testaments).   Just because Jesus didn't personally say some specific things,  doesn't make the rest of the Bible any less true.
   As far as the old "Law" and the teachings of Jesus in the New Testament, yes, it's true that Christians are no longer under the letter of the old Law.   But that doesn't make the concepts of the old Law any less valid nor any less applicable;  it's just that some particulars of the old Law was specific to those times.   For instance, many of the rules were needed because of cleanliness, etc.   Women didn't have tampons and all that, and no one had access to daily showers and bathroom cleanliness like we do now; hence the rule about women not working in the fields during their periods, etc.    There are many examples.....Also,  Peter had a vision from God where God told him that all food was okay to eat.   But even that freedom (as cautioned later in the Bible) was to be properly applied in any given situation.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You are blind and that is all I am going to say about it.

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      glynch1posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Lady,
      People who cannot offer objective evidence to prove their position often resort to personal attacks . . . as you have done here. You cannot refute the Scriptural truth, so you call your opponent blind and then end the conversation.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hahahahaha,  I don't play your game. I have NOT attacked her personally.  I can and I will refute anything that is NOT truth...period.

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      Mitch Alanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Lady, you have not refuted anything. You've made a general statement of "blindness" without explaining what you feel she is blind to & without producing any evidence to back it up. I'm sure that we would all welcome an educated & polite debat

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      Lady Guinevereposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The whole Bible is NOT Jesus's teaching.  Jesus never wrote 1 word of that Bible.  Most of what Jesus did teach is in the Gnostic Texts and were taken out of the original Bible as were some other books.  This Is just discussing 1 book n the laws

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      Deborah Sextonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      LG why do you say she is blind?   The stuff you wrote in your opening remarks is not true and I don't know where you get it

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      Lady Guinevereposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Deb, straight and narrow is the path.  What is not true in my OP?

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      Deborah Sextonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      LG this statement is untrue "Jesus didn't give laws agains certain types of food. He said everything in moderation."
      He made the laws harder for instant "Thou shall not kill" Yahshua added  "being angry with someone without cause is a sin" Matt 5:20

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   Deborah Sextonposted 11 years ago

   Leviticus was for the Priests and High Priests and their followers that worshipped in the Jewish Temple
   No where did Yahshua (Jesus) or his Apostles say the law was done away with Paul is the one who taught that
   
   Sin IS the breaking of the LAWS
   
   1 John 3:4
   Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
   
   James 1:15
   Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
   
   The Pharisees
   
   Keeping the law is not what the Pharisees are guilty of.
   It was because they kept the simple easy laws and not the  weightier ones.
   
   Yahshua said they should keep the bigger laws as well as the simple oness.
   Matthew 23:23
   Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
   
   The Sabbath
   Not once did Yahshua say we could do anything we want on the Sabbath. He said if you have to choose between keeping the Sabbath and saving a life, you should choose to save the life. The weightier issues of having mercy is the most important.
   
   Matthew 12:10-12
   10.And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
   11. And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
   12. How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

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   celafoeposted 11 years ago

   the law has been fuflfilled and no longer is in effect.  Plain and simple for Christians.   Unconverted jews still are under the law and cannot be born again until they also accept Jesus provision to be born again.   Then the law also will pass away for them. 
   
   anyone keeping one part of the law must keep it ALL. so be warned.   Read and have the Holy Spirit interpret scripture for you and you will not be confused.   Do not listen to people's understanding, get if God's way.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Do you even know what born again means? Explain

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      celafoeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      DS  nice, of course I do but I am not sure you do.  You can live under the law if you want but then you have to KEEP ALL of it.   I choose to accept Jesus payment and live under HIS law of Redemption.

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