Using terms of our current mainstream scientific paradigms, why would astrology

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   SantaCruzposted 12 years ago

   Using terms of our current mainstream scientific paradigms, why would astrology work?
   
   I'm looking for serious scientific thoughts such as ideas related to Seasonal Affective Disorder or how the Moon affects people physiologically.
   
   

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   Shahid Bukhariposted 12 years ago

   Astrology and Astronomy ... are step-sisters ...

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   ptosisposted 12 years ago

   
   
   If anything affected, I would think it would be the moon that causes the tides as in a micro difference of gravity akin to being as sea-level and at 14,000 feet. (just guessing).
   
   But ask any cop about 'fright night" violent crimes do go up on a Friday nighyt with a full moon. That's the reason they call it lunacy

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      cascolyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      2 very different things - the first is the moon working on an enormous physical object, the oceans, combined withearth's spin; the second is allegedly working on human bodies see:  http://cascoly.hubpages.com/hub/Full-Mo … s-Unveiled

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   MisterHposted 12 years ago

   I agree with Infinite712, you could make up all sorts of reasons why astrology might work but they'd all be pseudo-science because the real scientific method has found no veracity in the claims that astrology makes.

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      fen landerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Astrologers do not make up anything, except their minds. Astrology is the PRIMAL science on which ALL science is based. It is based-on empirical observation - not imagination and wishful thinking. Science is blind.

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      cascolyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      then present some of this alleged astrological evidence!  when double blind studies have been done, different astrologers can't even come to the same conclusion about what a particular horoscope, etc means -- it's all flimflam - ranging from the self

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      SantaCruzposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I posed this question originally because I'm unaware of any scientific studies. For example, has anyone actually looked for correlations (or the absence of them) between subjects' MMPI profiles and traits assigned to  their birth signs?

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      cascolyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      check the back issues of Skeptical Inquirer and Skeptic magazine -- they've had anumber of survey reviews over the years summarizing the various experioments that have been done -- basic conclusion - astrology is bogus [to use the technical term]

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      SantaCruzposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Cascoly, if you have links for such articles, please post.

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   cascolyposted 11 years ago

   Seasonal Affective Disorder has nothing tpo do with astrology since it is entirely due to variations in the amount of light hitting the earth at various times of the year.

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      SantaCruzposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Cascoly. I know that SAD isn't related to astrology. I mentioned it in the question to help prime people to generate more appropriate ideas. That said, there could be a correspondence between disposition and the amount of sunlight a baby receives.

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      cascolyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      SAD is related to actual sunlight received, so it is a reality;  the possible effects of planets and stars is so miniscule as to be non existent - the OBGYN who delivers a baby exerts a greater gravitational effect than the moon

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   fen landerposted 11 years ago

   To put it in simple terms - quantum physicists have discovered that a single atom, when split into myriad particles and distributed widely in space and time, continue to 'communicate' between themselves, no matter how widely distributed in time or space.
   Given these facts and extrapolating backwards in time to the Singularity that exploded in the BIG BANG, and began the process of Creation/Evolution etc, etc, it follows naturally that everything - every particle and every atom that exists in the Universe is eternally constantly communicating with every other particle and atom in existence.
   How then could the astrological sceptics be right? Do they suppose that the laws of physics are suspended when it comes to astrology?
   I do hope this answer was some use to you.
                                  Fen Lander (The Landscape Zodiac of Britain)

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      cascolyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      htat's scientific gibberish -- those quantum effects you mention work only on the smallest levels imaginable - the 'constant communication ' stuff is just nonsense

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      fen landerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Tell that to the quantum physicists at Cerne, you think you can separate the quantum world from the macro world? Go and get an education, stop talking gibberish yourself.

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      cascolyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      just silly -- no one at CERN would agree with what you said. you jump from that to the ridiculous "follows naturally' conclusion that all particles are talking to each other over time.  astrology remains junk science, at best; fraud in many cases

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      SantaCruzposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks, Fen! Quantum mechanics is a good direction for this. Have also learned some about vibrations & frequencies at the cellular level. Could this relate to the old "Harmony of the Spheres" idea?

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