Dear Hubbers,
Yes, it is I - CAGSIL!
I want to bring to your ATTENTION a little known fact about life.
If you HOPE for something, you are 'wishing' for something.
Does this make it become true or truth? NO, it doesn't.
So, Why are you willing to sacrifice your existence?
For a mystical higher power.
Are you gullible enough to believe someone else knows what is best for you?
You can't be serious.
How ever, since I've put this under "religion and beliefs" - exploring options - ETHICS and Perspectives.
We can only discuss ETHICS of believing in something that isn't real. Your perspective is skewed by the fact that you believe your hope is justified and therefore on that basis you have declared what you've been told as truth.
Ethically, you are violating your own good conscience and your very existence, by forcing your body to endure the worse pain, it could ever feel.
A portion of the brain, being dedicated to believing in a mystical realm of non-existence, where nothing is real.
You are damaging your own sound judgement about what you know about your own life or what you've come to understand about your life.
The fact that you spend stupendous amounts of your life, over the course of your life, simply dedicated to worshipping something that is in anything other than reality is sad.
By the way, when I say "GOD" doesn't exist is because he doesn't exist.
Reality says "He doesn't live here!"
Science says "There is no such being!" or "Realm".
These two things- dismiss the existence of "GOD".
This is the position I stand on. You can not provide any PROOF to counter. Even, with the 'bible' as your guide, because it doesn't have any truth in it to begin with.
But, if you want- let's talk about it. Let's try to keep it civilized.
Guess no one wanted to discuss it tonight - it's party night...
Good lord that avatar is frightening and hilarious.
I am a little biased, but you wear it well.
well, you talkative bunch, I am out for a while, heading to a friends house.
Everybody petered out.
Including me. Sorry. Got in a Boggle tournament with my mom.
We are a brutal Boggle force.
None shall defeat us!
See you later Ray - take it easy
My dear Casgil,
Can we be reasonable?
For ignorance can only thrive in unreasonable minds.
Would you agree that there is a tangible Casgil and an intangible Casgil.
The tangible many know and interact but the intangible many cannot even begin to comprehend?
Also the intangible is far greater than the tangible, for the tangible is moved by the intangible and without the intangible the tangible is actually nothing?
The intangible has the potential for continuous growth unlike the tangible which is already on it's one way downwards course of death, with or without the aid of the intangible.
The tangible is limited by time, space, and circumstances unlike the intangible which can be limited by itself alone.
Can you agree to the above or is there anything that needs further clarification.
In your preamble, you have indeed spotted some serious fallacy in those who claim to speak on Gods behalf.
But you yourself are not blameless for to conclude as you did also show a certain amount of Ignorance.
For ignorance itself is a great God who seeks to dominate men through it's deceitfulness by robbing them of reasoning.
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