Is Catholicism a middle-aged dictatorship?

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  1. PhoenixV profile image66
    PhoenixVposted 23 months ago

    Is Catholicism a middle-aged dictatorship?

    Should there be a Catholic spring?

  2. Ericdierker profile image50
    Ericdierkerposted 23 months ago

    Phoenix I have never learned your real name after five years of knowing each other. I reckon you have some reason to stay totally anonymous.
    You got your two: Catholic with a big C and catholic with a small c.  The big C connotes the ideas like descendant of Peter and the Vatican and some doctrine and dogma. The little c really means "Universal".  So you got your variants on the creeds, some like; I belief in the Holy "C" "c" church. 
    Folks who align with the Catholic church are just fine. They really do have Springs they call Vatican Councils. It is all good it lets them slowly but surely progress into non-dogma reality of spirituality.
    If the Pope over the last half century has appeared dictatorial that is bad marketing on their part. His group of Cardinals do a good job of keeping him in check like our congress does with our president.
    I am not Catholic but I used to teach catechism to youth whose congregations were considering becoming Catholic. Through my Lay Eucharistic Ministry via the Episcopals I can take a good communion with the best of them.
    We do not need to divide ourselves from Catholicism to be good Christians.
    One time in Mexico, decades ago I attended a mass on a volcanic mountain top. There were three hundred "churches" below us in the valley of Chollula/Puebla. But some 200 of us climbed one thousand feet and were met by visiting Buddhist Monks. It was a wonderful celebration on the life given us by Jesus Christ. Not a building within two miles. It was "church" in a pure sense.
    Please do not judge Catholics as though they are outerspace aliens. Each one is a child of God and each one deserves to be treated as that child not as a group.

  3. Dont Taze Me Bro profile image60
    Dont Taze Me Broposted 23 months ago

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    Funny you should ask this now. You know the Wikileaks emails revealed emails demonstrating Hillary Clinton's open hostility toward religious liberty!

    •    Wall Street Journal (Editorial Board) —Anti-Catholics for Clinton
    •    Washington Post (Sarah Pulliam Bailey) —WikiLeaks emails appear to show Clinton spokeswoman joking about Catholics and evangelicals
    •    Washington Post (Mark A. Thiessen) —Hillary Clinton is a threat to religious liberty

    Yep, the Democrat Party is the Party of anti - God, but they try hard to keep that from you, like everything els it has to get revealed in leaks of private emails.

    Want the lowdown on this revelation, justread the above articles or better yet listen to the first 11 minutes of this:

    http://4ff414ae5107de3a9e18-43dbab4d73a … iefing.mp3

    If you are a socialist a-religious Hillary supporter I suppose this email leak is great news for you, but to religious people who expect the government to be tolerant of religious beliefs they should not be generally surprised.

    1. PhoenixV profile image66
      PhoenixVposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      Thats the reason I asked this question is to expose hillary and her cohorts ttrue colors.

    2. Dont Taze Me Bro profile image60
      Dont Taze Me Broposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      Glad to oblige but all a person need do is research Hillary's past and follow her present and future and then if they still want to support her, definitely seek psychiatric counsel.

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      Norine Williamsposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      JFK was no better!  We can only vote for "the lessor of the two evils" because this world is Satan's kingdom (II Cor 4:4)!

    4. Ericdierker profile image50
      Ericdierkerposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      We are well advised to pay heed to an officials affiliations, and perhaps more so a candidates. I get this feeling that HRC is anti spiritual and that DT is open to concepts. I wonder how it can be the more bombastic the more open. But I am.

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      Norine Williamsposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      Scripture will be fulfilled no matter who wins the election and DT puts us closer to END TIMES for he will "push that button!"

    6. Dont Taze Me Bro profile image60
      Dont Taze Me Broposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      So you think the end times will come when Trump uses nuclear weapons? Where is that in the Bible? lol

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      Norine Williamsposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      The arrogant Anti-Christ (Dan 7:8;8:24-25) will sat the stage for the Abomination of Desolation. A treaty will be signed w/Israel for 7 yrs but he will break treaty after 3.5yrs which will signal the beginning of The Grt Tribulation(Lk 21:36)!DANIEL

    8. savvydating profile image96
      savvydatingposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      Norine, if you are as familiar with scripture as you claim, you must know that the world will not be destroyed by a nuclear weapon. It will end because religious protection will be banished. Your answer is a cop-out.

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      Norine Williamsposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      Savvy: Can't tell me the Book of Daniel is not prophecy of world's end!  When? I don't know but put a "hot head" in office & it'll be sooner than you think!  Call it a "cop out" if you please; Scripture will be fulfilled!

    10. savvydating profile image96
      savvydatingposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      The world will not end due to a nuclear bomb, Norine. I do not like Trump either, but your support of Hillary is truly awful. But, there are many "low information" voters out there. Unfortunate, to say the least.

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      Norine Williamsposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      I don't know by what means but DT will increase "desolation" which is why I have "low interest" in evil (Politics)!
      You may have an interest in the world but it doesn't matter when one is "covered!"
      Both are "ungodly!"

    12. Dont Taze Me Bro profile image60
      Dont Taze Me Broposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      Ok, so much for the Bible according to Norine. I've seen that show and it ain't pretty, not even entertaining.

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      Norine Williamsposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      You can believe this "show;"
      "If any one preach any other gospel unto you than The Gospel of Christ;" you are "ACCURSED" (Galatians 1:6-9)!

    14. Dont Taze Me Bro profile image60
      Dont Taze Me Broposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      Noreen is there a reason why you think that doesn't apply to you because from what I've seen that is exactly what you do.

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      Norine Williamsposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      If you KNEW what "The Gospel of Christ" was; you would KNOW "You're a LIAR!" 

      You don't even believe in GOD, so how can you say?

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      Norine Williamsposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      Have you read the Scriptures?  How can you say if not? 
      Do you know what Gospel?  If so, what?

    17. Dont Taze Me Bro profile image60
      Dont Taze Me Broposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      I don't believe in God? Where on earth did you conjure that from? Your spirit guides? You don't know anything about me my dear and the fact that you said that to me proves you are a raving lunatic who is obsessed with yourself.

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      Norine Williamsposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      Believing there's a God in the sky is not BELIEVING in GOD (2Kgs17:29-41)! Matt 7:22-23 tells you what I'm talking about! We've got to GET IT RIGHT (2Tim 2:15)! If not "The Gospel of Christ" we are ACCURSED" (Gal1:6-9) & the ONLY WAY one BELIEVES

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    Norine Williamsposted 23 months ago

    Why didn't anyone question Catholicism as a dictatorship back in 325 A.D. after "The Council" met?  It's no news that the Scriptures were changed then and will continue to be changed by man to align with "the times!"   Therefore, we're going to need more than WikiLeaks to keep us from following "the tradition of men" (Colossians 2:8)!
     
    As far as Religion in the United States; they (Catholics) have always been intertwined with politics and the poor little "spin offs" (33,000+ denominations in the US alone) follow in their footsteps!

    LORD HAVE MERCY ON US!

    For this world is Satan's kingdom (II Corinthians 4:4) and Scripture WILL BE FULFILLED (Luke 21:22)!

    We need JESUS (aka HOLY SPIRIT) who will "lead and guide us into ALL truth" (John 14:26) which is much farther than WikiLeaks!

    Crazy?  You think?

    1. India-Nepal profile image69
      India-Nepalposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      Scriptures weren't changed. That's why the unearthed old scriptures such as the Dead Sea Scrolls are almost identical with what we have in KJV Bible.There are thousands of such scriptures unearthed, so the claim that the teaching was changed is false

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      Norine Williamsposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      "Almost identical?" Then CHANGED! 
      Matt 28:18 "ADDED" (Rev 22:19) "Father, Son and Holy Spirit;" IJn5:7-8 "ADDED!" 
      What are you talking about? 
      Scriptures CHANGED to align w/Catholic (US RELIGION) doctrine!

  5. tamarawilhite profile image88
    tamarawilhiteposted 23 months ago

    Conservative refers to conserving the best of the past. The Catholic church, with a 2000 year tradition, sees its job as doing exactly that with a divine mandate to do so. Thus, change comes slowly and methodically.

    If you actually want to improve the world, we need a "Muslim spring" where Islam actually becomes the religion of peace the West keeps saying it is out of the hope saying so will prevent the regular acts of violence against non-Muslims, secular Muslims and between Muslim sects that occur with depressing regularity.

  6. India-Nepal profile image69
    India-Nepalposted 23 months ago

    Yes, it's a right name for them. They are using Christ to spread their totally non-Christian message, which is the greatest deception of all. They have also created the order of Jesuits to kill real Christians.

    They retained their idol worship of the ancient Babylon religion. They simply replaced their idols of the mother goddess Ishtar and her son Tammuz with the images of Mary and Christ.

    That's why you get such a big mother Mary statue with a small helpless child - because the attention is on the mother goddess, the queen of heaven of the Babylonians.

    I think that the Catholic Church is the beast of the revelation drunk on the blood of saints. Come out of her, people, it's total deception.

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      Norine Williamsposted 23 months agoin reply to this

      AMEN!
      And their little "spin offs" (33,000+ denominations) continue to follow!
      RELIGION in the US "KILLS!"
      Matt24:14 "And THIS GOSPEL of the Kingdom shall be preached in ALL the world for a witness unto ALL nations; and the THE END SHALL COME!"

  7. manatita44 profile image83
    manatita44posted 23 months ago

    Well, my Brother Phoenix,

    This same Catholicism produced St. Augustine; St. Theresa of Avila; Therese Newmann, the Stigmatist; St. Francis of Assisi... shall I name a few more?

    Meister Eckhart; Julian of Norwich; Brother Lawrence and the modern comtemplatives Mother Theresa, Thomas Merton, Padre Pio and a few more.

    We are a family of brothers and sisters. Sometimes the wrong-doers in the family, will utilise the legacy in a negative way. This was happening 5000 years ago and it will continue to happen. You and I can play our part in a positive way.

    If you look closely at your answers here and elsewhere, you will see that most are looking out: 'The world did this to me; she did this to me; they are doing X,Y,Z. It is a terrible world.'

    Have we tried the inner way? Are we conscious of the Soul? Can my Loving and serving; my life of aspiration, be of benefit to my fellow humans? Tough questions. Do you seek meaning? Is there a quest for Something Higher? How can we best serve? Much Peace, my brother.

    Nice to see you again. Are the studies over? Glory be!

 
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